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A child I once knew wrote about a black hole that devoured light and brought pause to the universe, so for the universe to co-exist with this endless consumer of visions they surrounded the hole and navigated around it's desires to find a way to live in peace with it. I guess this child must be jesus for he knew the workings of a Black Hole before he was 7 lol Book isn't anything more then that.

Do I push my ideas on people? Sure as hell I do, people got there opinions and ideals from people like me pushing ourselves on them to begin with. If you honestly believed your crap to begin with you wouldn't even worry yourself with me pushing my logic unto yours. If I get into your head it means something was wrong with your original logic.

Equally, if you don't like the way things are said here you can kindly ask people to stop or leave the conversation, if I see any more whining I'm going to bring up a big chart of every time the bible contradicted itself and we can spend the next life time debating why the bible was a political tool and nothing more. For that's all that honestly matter when it comes to the bible: the outcome it has had on us. And it's outcome: Bad.

Religion was a stepping stone for our civilization to help guide it into a morale basis. Time to call it common knowledge now and start movin' on.
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I'd just like to point out as a History major who has studied the time era. There is tons of historical evidence that the first Christians were not Catholic rather, they were non sanctioned believers that followed specific teachings and gospels in their own homes. They worshiped privately, preached pacifism, and most did not want a unified Christian church.

When the Catholic church was established, they then started to pick and choose which gospels were and were not "worship worthy". So from the very start the Catholic church was already distorting Jesus's teachings.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

Edit: As someone who was raised by a man with a Theology PhD degree from Cambridge (if you are educated you know how truly impressive that is) I just want people to be aware of a few things.

1.The bible is full of gospels, meaning it is written by many many different people. Not one single person wrote it, so yes, there are bound to be contradictions.

2.The book is not to be read and taken literal or as fact. A lot of the way it was written was to help try and explain our universe while also teaching a moral and ethical lesson.

3.As Science progresses there are tons of parts of the bible that are no longer relevant or correct. And just because of this, doesn't prove the entire book to be right or wrong. The moral and ethical teachings are still very important and relevant.

4.The problem with Religion is not Religion it self, its the majority of people who follow it blindly. Religion is an easy answer for a lot of uneducated people who don't want to think. They would rather just believe everything they read in a Book and not be forced into thinking for their own, which directly goes against what I believe Religion to be.

5.Religion is a GREAT thing that has been used horribly. Does every single person NEED Religion? No of course not, some people are able to create and find a morally good, way to live without ever needing to resort to Religion to teach them how.

6.Religion is different for every single person, so for you judge an entire group of people is just as moronic as the extremest that want to keep Gay marriage illegal. I do not blame the whole for the actions of extremists. The same way I do not fear or blame Islam for 9/11 or the terrorists that have killed so many. (We should not blame the gun that kills, rather the shooter)
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I often wonder what the world would be like if there was no religion. We could probably progressed through the age of space travel, humanized robots, etc because we would all be focusing on science.
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Religious.
Because I don’t believe we are the only ones in the entire universe and not the most advance.
In other words I believe that there are people (if you want to call them that) that have advanced beyond the corporeal state and look over us like someone would an ant farm. When the bible was written the one writing it did so based on what the world was like at that time and what they know I believe as we move out to the stars a new understanding of the word of god will be known.
They see god as a person because they could not comprehend pure energy. Same with the burning bush.
Made in his image I believe is a person sole not their physical self.
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sevink wrote:

I'd just like to point out as a History major who has studied the time era. There is tons of historical evidence that the first Christians were not Catholic rather, they were non sanctioned believers that followed specific teachings and gospels in their own homes. They worshiped privately, preached pacifism, and most did not want a unified Christian church.

When the Catholic church was established, they then started to picked and choose which gospels were and were not "worship worthy". So from the very start the Catholic church was already distorting Jesus's teachings.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

Edit: As someone who was raised by a man with a Theology PhD degree from Cambridge (if you are educated you know how truly impressive that is) I just want people to be aware of a few things.

1.The bible is full of gospels, meaning it is written by many many different people. Not one single person wrote it, so yes, there are bound to be contradictions.

2.The book is not to be read and taken literal or as fact. A lot of the way it was written was to help try and explain our universe while also teaching a moral and ethical lesson.

3.As Science progresses there are tons of parts of the bible that are no longer relevant or correct. And just because of this, doesn't prove the entire book to be right or wrong. The moral and ethical teachings are still very important and relevant.

4.The problem with Religion is not Religion it self, its the majority of people who follow it blindly. Religion is an easy answer for a lot of uneducated people who don't want to think. They would rather just believe everything they read in a Book and not be forced into thinking for their own, which directly goes against what I believe Religion to be.

5.Religion is a GREAT thing that has been used horribly. Does every single person NEED Religion? No of course not, some people are able to create and find a morally good, way to live without ever needing to resort to Religion to teach them how.

6.Religion is different for every single person, so for you judge an entire group of people is just as moronic as the extremest that want to keep Gay marriage illegal. I do not blame the whole for the actions of extremists. The same way I do not fear or blame Islam for 9/11 or the terrorists that have killed so many.


You just wrinkled my brain.
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I'm not religious by any means, but I am spiritual. I've definitely flip-flopped with my beliefs as I've grown but even at my most faithless moments the term "Atheist" never sat right with me.

If you don't believe in anything then you don't believe in love, and the absent of love in this world has caused just as many tragedies as the presence of religion.

Whether it be friend, family, or lover; the idea that anyone I've ever felt was special in my life might as well be someone else because it's all coincidence is a wild train of thought to me.

But, if that works for you then so be it.
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sevink wrote:

I'd just like to point out as a History major who has studied the time era. There is tons of historical evidence that the first Christians were not Catholic rather, they were non sanctioned believers that followed specific teachings and gospels in their own homes. They worshiped privately, preached pacifism, and most did not want a unified Christian church.

When the Catholic church was established, they then started to pick and choose which gospels were and were not "worship worthy". So from the very start the Catholic church was already distorting Jesus's teachings.

Just wanted to throw that out there.

Edit: As someone who was raised by a man with a Theology PhD degree from Cambridge (if you are educated you know how truly impressive that is) I just want people to be aware of a few things.

1.The bible is full of gospels, meaning it is written by many many different people. Not one single person wrote it, so yes, there are bound to be contradictions.

2.The book is not to be read and taken literal or as fact. A lot of the way it was written was to help try and explain our universe while also teaching a moral and ethical lesson.

3.As Science progresses there are tons of parts of the bible that are no longer relevant or correct. And just because of this, doesn't prove the entire book to be right or wrong. The moral and ethical teachings are still very important and relevant.

4.The problem with Religion is not Religion it self, its the majority of people who follow it blindly. Religion is an easy answer for a lot of uneducated people who don't want to think. They would rather just believe everything they read in a Book and not be forced into thinking for their own, which directly goes against what I believe Religion to be.

5.Religion is a GREAT thing that has been used horribly. Does every single person NEED Religion? No of course not, some people are able to create and find a morally good, way to live without ever needing to resort to Religion to teach them how.

6.Religion is different for every single person, so for you judge an entire group of people is just as moronic as the extremest that want to keep Gay marriage illegal. I do not blame the whole for the actions of extremists. The same way I do not fear or blame Islam for 9/11 or the terrorists that have killed so many. (We should not blame the gun that kills, rather the shooter)


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Can we trust in our own selves to save us? I do see how, I Iooked in the mirror and saw an unperfect person.

Everything that man has made can burn, Rome did, look how powerful it was, was!!
They said God died two-thousand years ago, but He rose again.


What does atheism give you? Hope? Peace? Or even power?...

Hah, They still died, didn't they? ....

I would rather die believing in something, and nothing to happen and be filled with peace. Then die not having hope and finding out that there is Someone omnipotent waiting for me on the other side.

But hey, enjoy your life if thats your cup of tea, I will try live for the glory of God, whether I be alone or in the crowd.

Peace, 2Hearts
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Bazak wrote:
i wonder how much you know of quantum physics and the statistics on the likelihood of the big bang theory

Not my field of expertise, but with guidance I can probably handle most of the math for it.

Not to change the subject but.... Anyone else ever noticed how religious people claim knowledge of things they cannot know (revelation)?

Here's a question:

Why is it that only scientists know the secret formula? Priests and prophets didn't give us the chemical formula for Teflon, or DNA. If cleanliness is next to godliness, then why is it that only chemists discover new kinds of soap? The chemical formula for every kind of soap has technically always existed, even in a universe where the atoms required for them had yet to be formed, so why didn't God whisper these formula into any of these charlatan's ears? Why doesn't he do it today? There are plenty of soaps left which science hasn't found yet.

If you think God's word comes from truthful revelations, then why are you listening to priests and prophets? Listen to scientists! If that's how it works then we're the ones who God actually talks to, he whispers all the secret formulas into our ears when we sleep at night. That's why we know all of them, and the other side knows none of them. We know real and powerful truths about the universe and if you don't believe us, we'll show you the power atomic. And you'll be so impressed you'll put it in every stupid action movie for the next ten thousand years. Oh wait, we already did that... See, this is what I'm talking about, religious types never hear about anything cool. I think the evidence proves they're listening to the wrong hot-line. It's just nothing but, "hey, stop touching your crotch!" and "I can see you sinning down there..."
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let this die please.. we got better things to do.. eat chocotacos and cure cancer... And we all can agree to that..
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You know what I was just thinking, and mind you I've been drinking heavily tonight, but...

I was thinking: The next time I have to breach & enter a house to save someone, instead of having them come up to me later and tell me that they had god to thank for sending an atheist like me to help... I'm going to preempt them. LOL!

I'm just going to break into the room, whip my mask off and shout something ridiculous like: "The God I do not believe in has sent me to pull you from these hellish flames!!! Huzahhaa!!!!"


.... perhaps you lot should take that as an admission that I accept the possibility that your god is compelling me to help you people regardless of if I like it or not... but I still don't understand why most of the people we find have already asphyxiated long before we got there if he was big on helping anyone.... seems like most people are, very, un-helped.... parents have a much higher percentage rate of survival than their children.... lot of tears, lot of broken hearts of obviously devout Christians. I mean, they're screaming "Why Jesus why?!" most of the time, so I can only conclude that means they think he's real enough to question...

And me... I'm sitting there with tears in my eyes going... Jesus wasn't the one who took the battery out of your fire alarm instead of changing it you lazy bitch.... believing in jesus won't save your children from horrible and excruciating deaths, being practical will...
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Some of the stuff makes some sense the others is a load of bull shit like my parents are christians so there like gay and lez ppl are an abomination thats the stupidest thing ive ever heard. A man who dies and comes back to life only to die again? Seriously?
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i just worry about enjoying my life while I'm alive
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Nirvlime wrote:
If you don't believe in anything then you don't believe in love, and the absent of love in this world has caused just as many tragedies as the presence of religion.
Unfortunately you've made the erroneous assumption that this can possibly describe any atheist, even by the broadest stretches of the imagination. Suggesting an atheist doesn't believe in anything is pretty much the same as suggesting a theist believes in EVERYTHING. While I posit that most theists fall for anything someone tells them, there's nothing on the books that says different philosophies have anything to do with the number of things people believe in. I'm an atheist I don't believe in this god or that god, that's it, the topic of what I believe in pertains to gods only. What this has to do with love, an entirely different topic, I have no idea.

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i belive in goku
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