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How can they be against religion when some of them are nothing more then tools to better ones self? Their idiocy is mind boggling.


With fear of the unknown spurs anger. With anger comes discrimination.


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Now he has departed from this strange world a little ahead of me. That means nothing. People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion.
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I have heard people say that before about people creating god/s for fear of the unknown. But, if there was a way that God could reveal who he truly is including personality, feelings about matters, his involvement with humans and the wonderful future involving humans w/o all this "what if" and speculation about him, would you/anyone listen and then make the educated decision?
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You can't take a quote in regard to something and apply it across a full spectrum of ideas. If you are looking for a good Quote: Here is one of my favorites from Einstein and in the right context

"A man's ethical behavior should be based effectually on sympathy, education, and social ties and needs; no religious basis is necessary. Man would indeed be in a poor way if he had to be restrained by fear of punishment and hope of reward after death." ~Albert Einstein
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I have heard people say that before about people creating god/s for fear of the unknown. But, if there was a way that God could reveal who he truly is including personality, feelings about matters, his involvement with humans and the wonderful future involving humans w/o all this "what if" and speculation about him, would you/anyone listen and then make the educated decision?


We would break him.

We will manipulate his words. We will feed off the future. We will cause chaos and war. And in the end god will abandon us because that's just what humans are.
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I made no additional point with the quote. The original user made a statement that is relevant even within the context of the quote. A paradox of believing we can perceive anything objective while existing within a limited and subjective state. I appreciate your love for Einstein and your defense to his quotes, but I maintain my stance and feel it's applicable. If you disagree with me, that's perfectly within your right but that doesn't change my opinion that the quote, despite how it was original used, is relevant to my point.
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"Humanity? it's nothing more then a fragile line drawn in the sand. Of a far away beach over looking the most beautiful sunrises and sunsets; But sadly, we humans are the encroaching waves erasing that line.." ~ Jay Dubs

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Good quote.

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Even your messiah's teachings preach to simply be a witness and not an enforcer. Nor are you meant to enforce god's commandments or god's will. There is a fine line, and many people are crossing it. This is what angers people, not that you have your beliefs.


Well, since you insist on being ignorant on purpose, then I guess you won't mind me pointing it out to you.

First, about that enforcer part
. No doubt you get it from John 18:36 "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight..." and john 3:17a "For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world".
However, the very next verse says He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
Matthew 10:34-36 says "Think not that I came to send peace on the earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." and also Matthew 5, where He says "I did not come to abolish the law and the prophets, but to fulfill". Now if He did not come to abolish the law, then the enforcing part of the law is very much still in tact. In fact, that reference from Ezekiel (who is considered a prophet, so you know) in Ezekiel 33:8 about warning the wicked to turn from their ways and live, would fall very much under what Christ says. Christ even says in Luke 13:2-3 that we will perish if we do not repent.

Actually, that also hit on preaching too, but hey.

Second...and most atrocious of hurts....you insist it is possible to be for God and His ways, and yet not enforce His commandments or His will. WHAT? My friend, that doesn't even make sense! Besides your own statements, you certainly expect the United States to enforce its laws....which get their power from God.
Romans 13:3-4 "For rulers are not a cause of fear for [a]good behavior, but for evil. Do you want to have no fear of authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same; 4 for it is a minister of God to you for good. But if you do what is evil, be afraid; for it does not bear the sword for nothing; for it is a minister of God, an avenger who brings wrath on the one who practices evil."

And who makes up rulers? I thought it was people.



Really though cpblair83, I shouldn't have to point that out to you. Instead of hiding behind statements of "there is no truth but no truth", which are contradictory in themselves, why not listen to your conscience?

You will also find that only Judaic Christianity (not to be confused with a lesser type called denominations) teaches that a man is justified by Faith alone. That it is not of good works, of sacraments, of prayers, of anything besides the free gift of God through the asking of forgiveness (repentance), lest any man should boast in themselves.

At the very least, you should find this last paragraph to mean something to you, my friend.
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"Humanity? it's nothing more then a fragile line drawn in the sand. Of a far away beach over looking the most beautiful sunrises and sunsets; But sadly, we humans are the encroaching waves erasing that line.." ~ Jay Dubs



May I ask you to enlighten us to who this Jay Dubs person is?
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ObsidianStar wrote:

I have heard people say that before about people creating god/s for fear of the unknown. But, if there was a way that God could reveal who he truly is including personality, feelings about matters, his involvement with humans and the wonderful future involving humans w/o all this "what if" and speculation about him, would you/anyone listen and then make the educated decision?


We would break him.

We will manipulate his words. We will feed off the future. We will cause chaos and war. And in the end god will abandon us because that's just what humans are.
Break him? Nah, Abandon us? Nahh. No matter what we do he is patient with us and wants us to get on the right track, especially in the end promising a rewarding future to anyone who wants it, cause he loves us so much. Manipulating words and war and causing unnecessary chaos that continues now because they do not know any better or they do but completely ignore it heh...
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Not god himself, but the image of god. Faith you will have and many more will join, but his words will be the root of all evil. Not saying god is evil, but humanity is. No matter what he will tell us, somebody, anybody will take that voice and bring upon chaos. "Manipulating words and war and causing unnecessary chaos that continues now because they do not know any better or they do but completely ignore it" (reminds me of a certain someone) one person can preach all his life and never be recognized. But as long as he preaches, even if earth followed the "right" path, the seeds of evil are forever embodied on humanity.
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The USA is not a Theocracy - http://nobeliefs.com/Tripoli.htm

I'm not hiding behind any statement. I claimed to be a Buddhist. Perhaps you would like to learn about my spirituality, as I've politely read everything you've had to say.
http://buddhism.about.com/od/basicbuddhistteachings/a/basicshub.htm

And nothing you quoted from the scripture justifies a Christian to act as an enforcer. I studied Theology for 4 years. I also studied Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic to read parts of the scripture accurately. I studied Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, and many more. I also studied Constantine's role in the creation of Christianity. I'm also aware that most of the Bible's scripture was written several decades after Jesus's death. I also studied the involvement of the Council of Nicea during the creation of the Bible. I'm also aware of how many pagan and old mythological stories mimic the very same stories in the bible. I do not need you to teach me about your bible. I took the liberty of teaching myself many years ago and do not insult me by trying to convert me. You may have your beliefs and despite my feelings towards Christianity, I respect your beliefs and the right for you to have them.

All I ask is that you give me the same courtesy. I believe that is what most people desire.

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^ *pulls out popcorn*
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If religion bothers you so much than why do you bring it up? o_e
Just shut up and be a sad little atheist =3=
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