Why Censorship for Premium Members When Uncensored is Available?
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Posted 8/14/12 , edited 8/14/12
So, "I Can't Play H?" Is censored for premium members, even though there is:

-An uncensored version for subscribers in Japan.

-Uncensored versions on the pirate sites all over the place.

The question I have is why isn't an uncensored version available for premium members? The broadcast and sound qualities here on CR are great things, but the censorship is just messed up. I've no problem if there's no uncensored version available in Japan and you broadcast it here, but when you have as much censorship as is in the TV broadcast version, compared to the AT-X version, it's just absurd.

So, why do you have the censored version only? Having the uncensored version would be a major attraction for the subscription service.

The obvious answers are either

1) Money, for some reason both sides could not come to a meeting of the minds; or

2) License holder refused to release the uncensored version, for a potential variety of reasons, including piracy concerns and exclusivity contracts for AT-X.

Given the availability of uncensored versions out there pirated from AT-X, if it's #2, it makes no sense, but being aware of Japanese business practices, I can't rule it out.

So, what's the answer? A vague answer would be satisfactory as I can understand the desire for continued business dealings. I just view that healthy Western subscription services are good for Japanese anime companies, and the releasing of censored products in streaming to the West while an uncensored version is broadcast in Japan results in only one winner: The pirates.
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Posted 8/14/12
From what I understand it is a bit of a combination of both. Money in that AT-X is a paid subscription whose price is not on par with CR's (in a subscriber sense), more like 5 times as much. Secondly one of the main draws that censoring has (other than for broadcast standards) is that it is looked at as a way to increase DVD/Blu ray sales for those who want the uncensored version, and I'm sure A-TX has to pay a much larger licensing fee in order to provide the uncensored versions to allay fears that the revenues gained from licensing out the uncensored version will adversely affect later sales of physical media.
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Posted 8/14/12
The information I was able to find shows that at least on SKY PerfecTV! HD and SKY PerfecTV! e2 in Japan, AT-X costs 1,890 yen per month, which would currently be $23.99. (The dollar has slipped a bit against the yen since I last checked).

Expecting CR to be able to have uncensored AT-X anime for premium subscribers (at least at anything approaching current subscription pricing) is a bit like expecting Hulu Plus to have Game of Thrones and other HBO programming.
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Maybe so but lets use the last season of Queen's Blade as an example. There is only one reason someone is watching this series, but the version on CR has censored that reason In my opinion they shouldn't have payed to be able to air it if it wasn't going to be uncensored since no one is going to watch it.
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Posted 8/17/12

hitmanhk wrote:

Maybe so but lets use the last season of Queen's Blade as an example. There is only one reason someone is watching this series, but the version on CR has censored that reason In my opinion they shouldn't have payed to be able to air it if it wasn't going to be uncensored since no one is going to watch it.

Your logic presumes that everyone that saw that it was the censored version either immediately ran to fansubs (as shocking as it may seem, some people actually prefer to stay legal), or stopped watching it. You also assert that no one would watch Queen's Blade if not for the fanservice. (Perhaps you were too distracted by the fanservice to notice, but the first two series did actually have a story). Your thinking suffers from a bad case of "I wouldn't do it, so obviously no one else would".

It isn't as if this was the first (heavily) censored simulcast that CR obtained, so there is no reason to believe they didn't know what to expect in regards to viewership. They aren't in the habit of purposely losing money on a series. This was also a series obtained in co-operation with Sentai, so there is a good chance there was less risk of financial loss involved from the start.

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Posted 8/17/12
Alright Fair enough. Let me get some other opinions in here. To further prove my point. http://www.crunchyroll.com/queens-blade-rebellion/reviews. I feel that they should have not even picked this one up and used the money to get something else.

And looking at it from another point of view. CR exists in part to lessen pirating and anytime they do something like show the uncensored version of something (especially to paying members) or be a week late when showing an episode of something (Sword Art Online6) I would bet that at at least 50% of people are just going to pirate it.

Point is sometimes I with CR should push harder and negotiate better with their contracts.
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