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Well I'm a Christian too and I listen to everything. The way i feel about rap is this as a quote from a rap song: "We don't believe the lyrics/We just like the way they sound"

I'll listen to anything with a good beat. And it doesn't make me any less of a christian. I mean, I'm black but taht doesn't make me biased. Music is music and as Jay-Z says: "If u don't like the lyrics/U can press fast forward"
Posted 6/15/07
^ Well I'm the same. I like any music that sounds good. But don't you think some songs are kinda...
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LeeMakihara wrote:

Well I'm a Christian too and I listen to everything. The way i feel about rap is this as a quote from a rap song: "We don't believe the lyrics/We just like the way they sound"

I'll listen to anything with a good beat. And it doesn't make me any less of a christian. I mean, I'm black but taht doesn't make me biased. Music is music and as Jay-Z says: "If u don't like the lyrics/U can press fast forward"


I'm not questioning your christianity, I'm just saying you have to watch what you take in because it becomes a part of you.
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To Senta: Oh yeah I definitely hate alot of rap because its always money, hoes, cars and clothes. I really don't like all this Dirty South Rap taht has taken over the radio and I live in the ATL! Like the mecca of dirty south rap. I like guys like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, Common, Lupe Fiasco, Kanye West, Jin and others. But then i also like some guys like Ludacris and T.I.

To darklion: What exactly r u implying? That because I listen to rap music that may or may not contain horrible lyrics I will become a horrible person? T
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Lee, I'm not saying that you're a bad person, in fact, I'm glad about the fact that you hate most of the dirty south crap that's taken over. Then again, I used to listen to Slipknot, and after about 1 year of listening to it, I didn't become a darker person, but I had become more violent and a lot ruder. Maybe you're different, but more often than not, that's what the case is.
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LeeMakihara wrote:

Well I'm a Christian too and I listen to everything. The way i feel about rap is this as a quote from a rap song: "We don't believe the lyrics/We just like the way they sound"

I'll listen to anything with a good beat. And it doesn't make me any less of a christian. I mean, I'm black but taht doesn't make me biased. Music is music and as Jay-Z says: "If u don't like the lyrics/U can press fast forward"


I'm not questioning your christianity, I'm just saying you have to watch what you take in because it becomes a part of you.


LMFAO.. That's funny. I'm asian, dress prep, listen to techno and rap, and get straight A's. I don't think rap has become a part of me. A matter of fact, I really dislike a lot of the "gangsta" African American because they are so goddamn annoying and what not.

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aznrice2k4 wrote:


darklion wrote:


LeeMakihara wrote:

Well I'm a Christian too and I listen to everything. The way i feel about rap is this as a quote from a rap song: "We don't believe the lyrics/We just like the way they sound"

I'll listen to anything with a good beat. And it doesn't make me any less of a christian. I mean, I'm black but taht doesn't make me biased. Music is music and as Jay-Z says: "If u don't like the lyrics/U can press fast forward"


I'm not questioning your christianity, I'm just saying you have to watch what you take in because it becomes a part of you.


LMFAO.. That's funny. I'm asian, dress prep, listen to techno and rap, and get straight A's. I don't think rap has become a part of me. A matter of fact, I really dislike a lot of the "gangsta" African American because they are so goddamn annoying and what not.





I agree with you and i'm black myself. lol but all the kids at school who usually try to act ghetto and tough aren't at all. I remember i got into a fight with this one guy a couple years back and he didn't even show up to finish it. I mean I'm a smart guy, I get good grades in school, music won't sway me.

To Darklion: I see where ur coming from man, but I guess I'm the exception then, but I'm not brainless enough to let lyrics sway me. But I totally agree. People hear lyrics today and they wanna act just like what they hear, but really i stand on my own.
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I agree to a point. Except it's not only just rap music. Pop culture in general is at an all time low. Addressing only rap music is part of the problem. There are a lot of non-rap music that promotes suicide, self immolation, violence to others, the glory of rampant sexual intercourse, usage of drugs, excessive drinking, etc. Hearing eight year olds naively singing Maroon 5's lyrics full of sexual innuendo shouldn't be ignored either.

I like this quote used by a fairly "conscious" rapper named Mos Def:


The daily ritual seems immersed, in the perverse. Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts.


It's not just the music, it's advertisements, T.V. and any other source of media in general.

Of course people can turn the other cheek and continue to party like rock stars. Totally dude.
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SpamMusubi wrote:

I agree to a point. Except it's not only just rap music. Pop culture in general is at an all time low. Addressing only rap music is part of the problem. There are a lot of non-rap music that promotes suicide, self immolation, violence to others, the glory of rampant sexual intercourse, usage of drugs, excessive drinking, etc. Hearing eight year olds naively singing Maroon 5's lyrics full of sexual innuendo shouldn't be ignored either.

I like this quote used by a fairly "conscious" rapper named Mos Def:


The daily ritual seems immersed, in the perverse. Full of short attention spans, short tempers, and short skirts.


It's not just the music, it's advertisements, T.V. and any other source of media in general.

Of course people can turn the other cheek and continue to party like rock stars. Totally dude.


I really liked this reply.
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I don't really see (or hear) what all the fuss is about. If people don't like rap music don't listen to it. I don't like it and I don't listen to it, but I wouldn't dream of trying to stop other people from listening to what they want to.

Perhaps some people would like to return to the type of music that was popular when my parents were young, eg the Beatles and other hideously cheesy stuff. Or how about a return to the days of censorship when songs could be banned simply for implying a rude word? Things are much better now with a variety of music styles and people having the option to choose what they listen to.
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rap hella rocks...cuz im not an adult.i'm 13 yrs. old. i know they're bad influences buht they're so popular &&& have such great tunes 2 them, u just can't help dancing to them!!!!!!that's why i love it.
Posted 6/16/07
this thread disappoints me. not ALL rap music is bad. And darklion you said a lot of your black friends listens to that crap. you don't have to be black to listen to rap. you can be black or white or pink or yellow!
And I do agree that rock is getting like that.
BUT even songs that talk about sex isn't all that bad. I mean look at Ne-Yo. He's pretty popular and everyone of his songs involve something about sex or love but he does it in a very classy way. I know there are a lot of songs that are very um..bad (lol) like Wait by the Ying Yang twins has sex written all over it. But there are some songs that is just for fun like This is Why I'm Hott by Mims and Buy u a drank by T Pain. In Show Stopper they pretty much talk about cars. But look at Lipgloss. lol I laugh everytime I hear that song. It's not all that serious. It's just a song you can dance to and so is most of the other songs.
You can't just diss rap like that. I mean you actually have to like it to even understand why it's so popular.
~case closed (lol kidding)
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I'm not going to bash on rap over and over again, but I do agree that the lyrics are a bit sketchy. They are all so similar to each other or have the same type of message being conveyed: killing/violence (Drag-On - Bust 'em Guns, 2Pac - Hit 'Em Up, Bone Thugs-n-Harmony - Me Killa, etc.), pimping/girls (Jay-Z - Big Pimpin', Mims - This is Why I'm Hot, T-Pain - Buy You a Drank, R. Kelly & T-Pain - I'm a Flirt, etc.) which are not very appealing. HOWEVER, they do have songs that describe life situations and try to convey messages/words of encouragement (DMX - Slippin', 2Pac - Changes, Ludacris - Runaway Love, etc.), and I guess most rap nowadays have good dance beats if you go to a club or something. I think messages conveyed in underground rap/hiphop are much more meaningful than the mainstream picks on the radio. Usually the reason why things get onto the radio and become a hit is simply because it's catchy. They don't expect the lyrics to help motivate an individual to become a better person or have deeper meanings.

Basically: mainstream rap lyrics suck, haha
Posted 6/16/07
Folk rock, metal, classical and techno...if its not that then idc

Post Script...yes 99% of rap does indeed suck for every one quality artist i can litteraly give you 200 bad ones who are more popular...its that poluted

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kyocool wrote:

Folk rock, metal, classical and techno...if its not that then idc

Post Script...yes 99% of rap does indeed suck for every one quality artist i can litteraly give you 200 bad ones who are more popular...its that poluted

Trevor (OP)


i actually agree with that. so many rare gems on a beach full of shells.

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