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Youth music: out of control?
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Posted 6/16/07
i think rap is horrible...i dont think u can even call it music..all it is is rymes afer rymes...
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The older I get, and the wider the spectrum of music that I have listened to, the more I realise that music has almost always been bad. Have you actually listened to some popular songs from the 60's? While most definately my favourite era, comprising of some incredible talent as it did, there are some absolute shockers that at the time were astonishingly popular. The 70's too, some gods-awful music, bad disco, bad glam rock, all of which at the time was exceedingly popular. Old-school punk wasn't all ground breaking too, most was 3 chord, semi musical literate rambling, and don't get me started on some of the crap released in the 80's.

The thing is, the stuff we remember, and the songs and artists from those eras that we now look upon so fondly are the very, very few that have stood the test of time. The cream of the crop as it were. Doubtless in years to come we will look back at certain artists of our time with both respect and nostalgia, as we have already begun to do with certain 90's bands and discard the vast majority of un-original crap that is mostly propagated.

Most music nowadays is simply shit. However most music has always been shit, no matter how far we go back in time, while musical progression, and true innovation (and this is of course arguable) may have slowed down somewhat since the early-mid parts of this century (The explosion of popularity of certain genres like Blues, rock, pop, jazz what have you), it has always been the case that only a very small minority was ever actually good, and doubtless so shall it continue.
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Posted 6/16/07

mushroomjay wrote:

Kay, find me a rap album (or even a song from an album) that you don't think is like that.


As much as I dislike rap, there is some brilliant stuff out there. It's not the music, it's the content. Most rappers are idiot douchebags, no question. Not all of them are 50 cent. Rap has incredible potential that has seldom been realized. But it is out there, deep in the underground.

Here is one such example, Immortal Technique, recommended by Lusulpher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBRJVGLRPo

most of this guys stuff is good too, this isn't just a fluke. If you don't like it, well then, sadly you're an idiot. Else wise, there is other brilliant stuff out there. yeah it takes some digging and I don't expect anyone to take the effort to effort to realize this.

plenty of other guys on par with him, if not better. blame MTV and the moronic black community that ignores their own intellectuals.

rap is capable of communicating so much... but it's so neglected it's almost comic. almost. imagine if you will all popular rappers highly educated and THEN thrown into the recording studio.

*kicks back and rests on the accomplishments of Mozart and Beethoven from his own culture*
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Posted 6/16/07
i love rock!!!
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Posted 6/16/07
rock!! rocks!!!
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Posted 6/16/07

azrael910 wrote:


mushroomjay wrote:

Kay, find me a rap album (or even a song from an album) that you don't think is like that.


As much as I dislike rap, there is some brilliant stuff out there. It's not the music, it's the content. Most rappers are idiot douchebags, no question. Not all of them are 50 cent. Rap has incredible potential that has seldom been realized. But it is out there, deep in the underground.

Here is one such example, Immortal Technique, recommended by Lusulpher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrBRJVGLRPo

most of this guys stuff is good too, this isn't just a fluke. If you don't like it, well then, sadly you're an idiot. Else wise, there is other brilliant stuff out there. yeah it takes some digging and I don't expect anyone to take the effort to effort to realize this.

plenty of other guys on par with him, if not better. blame MTV and the moronic black community that ignores their own intellectuals.

rap is capable of communicating so much... but it's so neglected it's almost comic. almost. imagine if you will all popular rappers highly educated and THEN thrown into the recording studio.

*kicks back and rests on the accomplishments of Mozart and Beethoven from his own culture*


Cheers for using my personal favourite rapper as an example.

Dance with the devil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M72zVuBNpEA
Posted 6/16/07
I just don't listen to mainstream shit anymore. End of discussion.
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Posted 6/17/07
Quality rap is few and far in between unfortunately. Immortal Technique is one of the few ones that focuses on the "real" problems at hand. Too bad the youth culture is more interested in a catchy hook and chorus then a meaningful song.

One song that comes to mind that addresses this nature of pop culture (specifically the hip-hop scene) is "Thieves in the Night" by Black Star.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LQiuQ1xIBM

One of the best lines from the song, which is a direct response to Toni Morrison's novel titled The Bluest Eye :


Not strong, only aggressive / Not free, we only licensed / Not compassionate, only polite (now who the nicest?) / Not good but well-behaved / Chasin' after death so we could call ourselves brave, still livin' like mental slaves / Hiding like thieves in the night from life / Illusions of oasis making you look twice.
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Posted 6/18/07

cocky wrote:
The older I get, and the wider the spectrum of music that I have listened to, the more I realise that music has almost always been bad. Have you actually listened to some popular songs from the 60's? While most definately my favourite era, comprising of some incredible talent as it did, there are some absolute shockers that at the time were astonishingly popular. The 70's too, some gods-awful music, bad disco, bad glam rock, all of which at the time was exceedingly popular. Old-school punk wasn't all ground breaking too, most was 3 chord, semi musical literate rambling, and don't get me started on some of the crap released in the 80's.


are you kidding me?60s?you prolly litsen to some gypsy folk song crap
hello 70s-80s rock and fuckin roll?
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Posted 6/18/07
Mainstream music (Hardcore and Emo in particular) was created to help little pussy ass 13 year old kids feel rebellious. Trivium, Lamb of God, Atreyu, As I lay Crying= Music for Fags. Someone just needs to revolutionize the concept of rock again. That only happens once a decade, but not since the turn of the century have i see a noteworthy band. All my music is underground, from Free Jazz to Technical Death Metal. I hate MTV.


Rap on the other hand is just commercialized, niggas are signed left and right to create useless music so that ignorant kids will buy the records.

My last complaint, since when is music about lyrical content. That is why I prefer instrumental music. Bob Dylan is fucking poet, not a musician. Lil' Wayne who fucking cares what a damn nigga has to say from the ghetto
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bakanobaka wrote:
Trivium, Lamb of God, Atreyu, As I lay Crying= Music for Fags. Someone just needs to revolutionize the concept of rock again. That only happens once a decade, but not since the turn of the century have i see a noteworthy band. All my music is underground, from Free Jazz to Technical Death Metal. I hate MTV.

i agree about what sucks but death metal is for losers
rock is everything
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Posted 6/18/07
lamb of god is more metal than megadeath
and as i lay dying r hardcore metal
it how metal music survives 1st metal then it was thrash
then death know it is hardcore it reinvents its self

rap is crap
Posted 6/18/07
I generally try to avoid listening to "modern" music... I especially agree about the comments on swearing (in rap at least).
The modern rock scene is getting ever same-y and I have to agree with Sting, who's said that "Basically everything that can be done in pop music has now been done." (or something along those lines) He is now experimenting with folk and Celtic music.
This has resulted in me listening to music from the 60's through the 80's, though I do enjoy a bit of new punk once in a while. I also find that some older artists can produce some great new songs, like The Stones with Don't Stop and Steve Vai with Lotus Feet.
^^^ I would agree that Bob Dylan isn't the worlds greatest singer, but that shouldn't be why you listen to his music. In the same way Donovan wrote frankly boring tunes and guitar parts, but they fit so well to the meaning of the songs that they shouldn't be parted.
^^^^ Cream wrote their best song (Badge) in 1969 and Sunshine of Your Love in 1967. Most of the bands which "made" the '70s were getting their acts together in the '60s, don't write them off!
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Posted 6/18/07
rap/hiphop songs nowadays are always about girls, sex, drugs, money and alcohol..
its crap!!!!!!
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Posted 6/18/07

henz_lan wrote:

I generally try to avoid listening to "modern" music... I especially agree about the comments on swearing (in rap at least).
The modern rock scene is getting ever same-y and I have to agree with Sting, who's said that "Basically everything that can be done in pop music has now been done." (or something along those lines) He is now experimenting with folk and Celtic music.
This has resulted in me listening to music from the 60's through the 80's, though I do enjoy a bit of new punk once in a while. I also find that some older artists can produce some great new songs, like The Stones with Don't Stop and Steve Vai with Lotus Feet.
^^^ I would agree that Bob Dylan isn't the worlds greatest singer, but that shouldn't be why you listen to his music. In the same way Donovan wrote frankly boring tunes and guitar parts, but they fit so well to the meaning of the songs that they shouldn't be parted.
^^^^ Cream wrote their best song (Badge) in 1969 and Sunshine of Your Love in 1967. Most of the bands which "made" the '70s were getting their acts together in the '60s, don't write them off!


cream,stones,steve vai, good stuff
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