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In the anime world Goku is often said to be the most powerful guy ever who can beet anybody in a fight.

I disagree with this statement.

so what i'm asking for is a list of characters who can beet Goku in a straight up fight.

Notice I say beet not kill.

Only anime characters are included.

Please give valid reasons.

My list

1) Itachi Uchiha- tsukiyomi and amataratsu

2) tengen toppa gurren lagann- size, and galaxy maybe even universal busting capabilities.

3) Lelouch vi britainia- gease

4)haruhi suzumiya- nearly omnipotent

I have more but these are the ones who come to mind.

if you haven't scean gurren lagann you cant talk about it kk?
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I'm gonna have to disagree with some of these choices

1. if we're talking straight up fight I don't think any of those whatever they are will help much
2. Giant robot doesn't count as a person
3. ok geese are scary and aggressive and chase little children around so I'll give you that one
4. I don't think I've ever seen Haruhi ever fight and I don't think Goku would indiscriminately pick a fight with someone who can't fight back.
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TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.

As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.

Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.

Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.

Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.
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Is this a serious question? the answer is quite obvious my dear friend


Udon from naruto




Pickachu in SSJ2 mode could murder him



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charlie256 wrote:

TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.

As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.

Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.

Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.

Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.



I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.

And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?
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charlie256 wrote:

TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.

As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.

Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.

Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.

Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.



I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.

And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?



um you realize that if goku blew the planet up he would die too.

any way i think that goku would stomp the shit out of thor and super man and hulk but silver surfer would probably beet him.
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crazycrazysasuke wrote:


Sayua wrote:


charlie256 wrote:

TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.

As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.

Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.

Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.

Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.



I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.

And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?



um you realize that if goku blew the planet up he would die too.

any way i think that goku would stomp the shit out of thor and super man and hulk but silver surfer would probably beet him.


Read carefully before you write please,
I didn't even say he would destroy the planet they are fighting on. I said he destroys planets, amplifying the fact that he has the power to do so while the others can't do anything which even touches that feat, so they are nowhere near his power-scale.
You clearly do not read any Marvel comics or know the lore, Goku doesn't stand a chance against Hulk or Thor nor Superman. Ofc. I talk about their prime versions in the comics and the official lore and not their wimpy counterparts in the movies (avengers ect.)
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King Yemma can.
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First of all Goku would be anyone! I repeat anyone let me explain.... Goku can devastate planets... if we are comparing anime character's then dragonball gt applies as it is an official anime and deemed eligible although it doesn't follow manga alot of anime don't though and its story is written by other paid employees.. The 10x kamekameha is the most devastating attack ever used against baby to send him to the sun! Then goku has instant transmission allowing him to teleport anywhere he wants back to the point if he destroys a planet he can escape . He did it in the buu saga i believe or frieza mostly buu saga if i remember correctly. Not to mention invisisble ki blast which is sent through goku's eyes and it cant be seen its been done in the manga and anime in the part when goku buries vegetas body after killed by frieza. Btw Instant transmission moves at the speed of light if not faster btw so he is the fastest character EVER. He is untouchable making all argument to beat him void. If you want to make it slightly scientific with addition of physics of his velocity if he hits super man at the speed of instant transmission he would split him in two. Super saiyan 3 if you allow goku to fuse with someone or even use Super Saiyan 3 he is still the most powerful nuff said look up his techniques versus all your other opponents he can't be catched or outmatched in terms of raw power if he can draw his ki from a planet(in dragonball gt(still an anime! made by official directors with consent from creator not fanfic) if you want to include it he makes a spirit bomb from the universe to defeat omega shenron and do you think itachi can be omega shenron do you think anybody but goku can beat omega shenron he is the symbolism of raw power and goku symbolizes standing together as a team can overcome any obstacle and he does beat omega shenron and focus it into a blast.) His martial arts skills are flawless and his punch speed is tremendous nuff said case closed there wasn't a debate to begin with just people not knowing what the hell they were talking about.
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Sayua wrote:


crazycrazysasuke wrote:


Sayua wrote:


charlie256 wrote:

TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.

As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.

Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.

Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.

Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.



I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.

And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?



um you realize that if goku blew the planet up he would die too.

any way i think that goku would stomp the shit out of thor and super man and hulk but silver surfer would probably beet him.


Read carefully before you write please,
I didn't even say he would destroy the planet they are fighting on. I said he destroys planets, amplifying the fact that he has the power to do so while the others can't do anything which even touches that feat, so they are nowhere near his power-scale.
You clearly do not read any Marvel comics or know the lore, Goku doesn't stand a chance against Hulk or Thor nor Superman. Ofc. I talk about their prime versions in the comics and the official lore and not their wimpy counterparts in the movies (avengers ect.)


i actually did read comics for a long time marvel comics only but any way this discussion is not on american comics it is only on manga and anime characters. i personally think that super hero comics (except spider-man) are really lame.
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First of all Goku would be anyone! I repeat anyone let me explain.... Goku can devastate planets... if we are comparing anime character's then dragonball gt applies as it is an official anime and deemed eligible although it doesn't follow manga alot of anime don't though and its story is written by other paid employees.. The 10x kamekameha is the most devastating attack ever used against baby to send him to the sun! Then goku has instant transmission allowing him to teleport anywhere he wants back to the point if he destroys a planet he can escape . He did it in the buu saga i believe or frieza mostly buu saga if i remember correctly. Not to mention invisisble ki blast which is sent through goku's eyes and it cant be seen its been done in the manga and anime in the part when goku buries vegetas body after killed by frieza. Btw Instant transmission moves at the speed of light if not faster btw so he is the fastest character EVER. He is untouchable making all argument to beat him void. If you want to make it scientific of his velocity if he hits super man at the speed of instant transmission he would split him in two. Super saiyan 3 if you allow goku to fuse with someone or even use Super Saiyan 3 he is still the most powerful nuff said look up his techniques versus all your other opponents he can't be catched or outmatched in terms of raw power if he can draw his ki from a planet and focus it into a blast. His martial arts skills are flawless and his punch speed is tremendous nuff said case closed there wasn't a debate to begin with just people not knowing what the hell they were talking about


how exatally would any of that matter against gurren lagann lol.
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Well goku can instant transmission into the cockpit's and kill the pilots easy kill if the pilots are human. Its a machine at best yah? no humans no function. and i updated my post about goku's spirit bomb ability in ssj4 in the final battle in dragonball gt when he uses all the energy from the universe in a giant spirit bomb to obliterate omega shenron. Sry for the response my internet is being a queer
Posted 8/16/12 , edited 8/16/12
Reading through this is hilarious.. Honestly goku probably is the strongest, even though he's died quite a few times.. xD
Against gurren lagann is an easy win, w/e it can do, the pilot inside the gurren lagann is safe right? He can just use instant transmission to teleport into the cockpit of it.. As long as he has instant transmission, i don't think anyone can beat him lol.

Edit: Actually fuck, i think there is someone. Bellcross (Age) from Heroic Age, following the story he's basically invincible. And this beast destroyed a mountain with the shock wave from his punch xD Plus like Goku can do the spirit bomb, Bellcross can just absorb the life of enemies around him and then use that energy as a destructive blast probably stronger than any of Goku's attacks. And if he went into a frenzy, i don't think goku could beat him lol.
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Stryker-X wrote:

Well goku can instant transmission into the cockpit's and kill the pilots easy kill if the pilots are human. Its a machine at best yah? no humans no function. and i updated my post about goku's spirit bomb ability in ssj4 in the final battle in dragonball gt when he uses all the energy from the universe in a giant spirit bomb to obliterate omega shenron. Sry for the response my internet is being a queer


Yaay someone smart ;D
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Haruhi and anyone else who can bend reality.

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