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Mystic Eyes of Death Perception can kill anything. Discuss.
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His wife ofc. All that power and she still is about the only person able to put true fear into him.
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i agree does Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu destroys planets and even galaxies too? Majin Buu destroys galaxies so SSJ3 goku who is on par with Majin Buu can destroy galaxies
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meh those eye jutsus like Tsukuyomi are chakra or ki or whatever insert spirit energy here are useless since Goku have telekenesis and telepathy that can shield him from those mind "energy" disruption attacks or just simply sense the "energy/ki/chakra" coming from Tsukuyomi attack and just dodge it, or he can simply overpower it since Goku and the rest of the dragon ball characters are masters of meditation they can tame their energy and emotion so well
you cant dodge tsukiyomi
and what about amataratsu all itachi or sasuke need to do is look at goku and he is dead.
plus itachi can put some one in a genjutsu by pointing a finger at them.
The second the battle started goku would be in itachi's genjutsu. if goku had genjutsu releases he would have a chance.
Btw i respect your comment because you actually gave some valid reasons and your not just some dbz sheeptard lol
Well I'm going to have to disagree with some of these points. I'm not really a Goku or DBZ fan for that matter but I know enough of the subject. Tsukiyomi requires you to look into the eyes of the wielder for it to activate. Goku is enough of a beast to fight without looking as it were. As for amatarasu, Goku can move faster than the speed of light on a regular basis so, you've gotta be pretty accurate to actually look at him straight. Same point goes for the finger thing. Ever tried to point at one of those really quick flies before? Not the normal slow buzzy ones but the quick darty ones? And accurately? Its like that except on a ridiculously grander scale. Also Goku is too stupid for genjutsu to do much to him. But that's just conjecture as its impossible to prove. I have always stated that DBZ characters were always overly powerful and I often remove them from comparison charts.
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Never mind a simple heart virus could have killed goku.
Discssing if goku and super man or hulk is yawn, if goku cant beat them, they certainly wont beat goku. speed alone... gg.
Why would anyones powers work against goku if he can move faster then they can see or think.
Haruhi Suzumiya - you know at around ss3 lvl they explain the powers have reached close to powers of god, can bend space and time. thats also considering Haruhi could accomplish that in a fight that could take place in .000000000001 seconds. Is she gonna crash the afterlife world too? its a differnt universe, getting complex. Is she immortal? how does we know!
The blowing up planets.. so he has instant trasmission... if he needed to, he could blow something up and be in a mcdonalds on a far away planet stuffing his face.
I really dislike these topics and moreso that I partake in them /facepalm
Ive certainly had this convorsation a many times, if goku cant beat something I cant see it it going further then stalemate. but then you look at some sneaky bioengineer sneaking a airborne virus ...mmm shrug.
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Sayua wrote:
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TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.
As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.
Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.
Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.
Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.
I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.
And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?
Goku could beat the hulk, Thor, Superman, Silver Surfer with one hand tied behind his back. Instant teleportation and insane blow-planets-up strength ALONE would beat them. The Hulk can crush mountains - Goku can crush planets.
Galactus might stand a chance.
I would say if Professor X's powers would work on him (since he is neither mutant nor human) he could probably win easily. Brute Strength Goku beats all but mental capacity? not so much so he's vulnerable to those attacks
Lelouche could stand a chance if he could look at him ... but again, that whole "teleportation" thing. I'm just using his abilities and not his personality though. If we factor in Gokus personality and trusting everyone too easily, Lelouch could lure him in and use it. But even if he killed him .. if it's DBZ after-world we are talking about Goku could come back and kill him ... or beat him up since the Geass can only be used once.
All powers from Naruto work off of Chi and Goku has about 100X the level of Chi in his hand than any Naruto character. Even Naruto in 9-tails form wouldn't stand a chance.
TTGL final form is a mech - doesn't count to me.
As for the Haruhi comment .... I'd post a pic but I don't feel like being banned. She has to be able to think to do her will and if you could kill her without her even knowing about it - fights over.
Some would say Light from DeathNote but I don't know if Death Note rules cover "saiyans" under their domain. 
Just because you don't like DBZ doesn't make him any less awesome.
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the thing is take any character out of there world and they are worth crap.
lelouche can't keep up with goku he'd be dead within a blink of an eye.
but im rooting more mages basically, nanoha, ryner lute, and even madoka stands a good chance.
the abilities are inconsistent for goku. at super saiyan lvl he can destroy a planet easily and teleport between galaxy. but at ss4 fused with vegeta a full powered kamehameha wave barely blows up half a city when the shot is perried. makes no sense. you can't measure his abilities to others at all.
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and also on Dragon Ball GT if you remember Goku absorbs the Dragon Balls and practically made him a GOD
ye i know Dragon Ball GT is non-canon but if your talking about Goku alone then there you go |
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Haha, if there is an anime character that can blow up an entire planet, then good luck finding one!
Besides, most new modern anime will make a soap opera speech before they fight, i don't see how that will fit in with Dragon Ball.
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...and then begin wondering 40 seconds later why it didn't work, at which point you review the rules and read the very first one:
The human whose name is written in this note shall die.
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Kakarot who? :P
Its probly been said but even if you somehow kill goku he will return with a halo on his head and be even stronger. Ass kicking commence!
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Kakarot who? :P
Its probly been said but even if you somehow kill goku he will return with a halo on his head and be even stronger. Ass kicking commence!
That is true, but the question stated who could defeat Goku, so even if he came back, it would be considered a defeat. Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide
I think the characters with the best shot might be some of the Medaka Box characters since they were built with DBZ in mind. Medaka for one with her abnormality the end, that lets her copy anyone else's technique and perfect it could copy the SS4 technique and the Kamehameha. Although I doubt it can be perfected beyond how Goku uses it. Another interesting fight would be Misogi Kumagawa. His All Fiction means he could take whatever Goku dished out, plus his ability to see anyone's weakness means he could see any weaknesses Goku has ( If there are any). Unfortunatelity Misogi is a born loser and can never win, but it would be an interesting fight. The character who could probably beat Goku would be Shibuki Shibushi, her Scar Bad technique that reopens every old injury a person has suffered would guarantee a win against someone like Goku who has several injuries that killed him once before. Then again Goku's one big weakness is his dislike of needles, medicine and doctors, which means he might give up to Naze, the moment she whips out all the needles without even fightin
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Mr. Manhattan. He Transcends our universe.
Otherwise anyone that controls time. He can't fight if he grows old and dies
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Previous poster named Age from Heroic Age, think he might be right about that one.
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Sayua wrote:
charlie256 wrote:
TTGL would obviously win from your list against basically anyone and everyone combined on account of being absurdly and stupidly huge, but is a mech so may not count as mentioned above.
As far as people like Lelouch or Itachi, it really depends on how their powers work. In relation to Goku's power anyways. If their power operates on anywhere near the same sort of chi or something level, then Goku would likely blow away them and their abilities by sheer force of whatever form Goku's power is. He would pull something similar to what Zeraki from bleach has done before, simply blowing away all the lesser abilities. Though if their powers aren't in the same boat then Goku may well be vulnerable to them, so it could go either way.
Haruhi of course could win, she has the power to do so, but she also has no idea how to control her power or even that she has any at all, so that's a serious issue that goes against here there.
Someone not from anime that hasn't been mentioned yet is Superman, I expect he could put up a decent fight but would probably lose anyway due to a vast difference in martial arts training. Oh and from above, Zeraki from bleach. Maybe he'd put up a decent fight for awhile but he'd lose too as Goku is too damn fast to keep up with and the ability for Goku to destroy an entire planet kind of places him above most anyone you could toss at him.
Belcross from Heroic Age is a semi mech and would more than likely win against Goku but as i said a semi mech so he may or may not count. And for anyone who's wondering super saiyan 4 doesn't count, dragonball GT is ok but definately non-canon, ssj4 does not exist so any potential it may have is invalid.
I think non-anime characters shouldn't be included because other comic universes and so on are ridiculously overpowered.
Some from DC and Marvel:
Superman wins against Goku
Silver Surfer stomps Goku
Hulk stomps Goku
Thor stomps Goku
Galactus/Thanos... n/c
Khârn the betrayer from 40k for example
and so on.
And putting Naruto characters up against him is just sad. Goku destroys planets, sasuke gayfag and his brother or whatever don't have the slightest chance against him. Don't know anything of TTGL but Haruhi? Lol?
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Goku could beat the hulk, Thor, Superman, Silver Surfer with one hand tied behind his back. Instant teleportation and insane blow-planets-up strength ALONE would beat them. The Hulk can crush mountains - Goku can crush planets.
Galactus might stand a chance.
I would say if Professor X's powers would work on him (since he is neither mutant nor human) he could probably win easily. Brute Strength Goku beats all but mental capacity? not so much so he's vulnerable to those attacks
Lelouche could stand a chance if he could look at him ... but again, that whole "teleportation" thing. I'm just using his abilities and not his personality though. If we factor in Gokus personality and trusting everyone too easily, Lelouch could lure him in and use it. But even if he killed him .. if it's DBZ after-world we are talking about Goku could come back and kill him ... or beat him up since the Geass can only be used once.
All powers from Naruto work off of Chi and Goku has about 100X the level of Chi in his hand than any Naruto character. Even Naruto in 9-tails form wouldn't stand a chance.
TTGL final form is a mech - doesn't count to me.
As for the Haruhi comment .... I'd post a pic but I don't feel like being banned. She has to be able to think to do her will and if you could kill her without her even knowing about it - fights over.
Some would say Light from DeathNote but I don't know if Death Note rules cover "saiyans" under their domain.
Just because you don't like DBZ doesn't make him any less awesome.
http://www.factpile.com/227-superman-vs-goku/
... 26 Full sites of the debate, I don't even want to look for the others.
WWH already destroyed entities twice as big as a certain planet. He also held the tectonic plates of a planet which was going to be fall apart (destroyed).
He beats Silver Surfer and Thor? Come on...
"Galactus "might" stand a chance", kk.
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