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I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.
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Its_Only_Me wrote:

I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.

I suppose the fact that it doesn't means it isn't the variable which accounts for happiness...
Posted 8/27/12

AshRandom wrote:


Its_Only_Me wrote:

I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.

I suppose the fact that it doesn't means it isn't the variable which accounts for happiness...


Nonsense! You live in the first world!

BE HAPPY.
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Posted 8/27/12

karmacide wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


Its_Only_Me wrote:

I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.

I suppose the fact that it doesn't means it isn't the variable which accounts for happiness...


Nonsense! You live in the first world!

BE HAPPY.


I am happy. Well, generally.

I was just using my powers of deduction. The fact that it does not, means it cannot therefore be the variable (well at least not the exclusive variable).
Posted 8/27/12

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karmacide wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


Its_Only_Me wrote:

I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.

I suppose the fact that it doesn't means it isn't the variable which accounts for happiness...


Nonsense! You live in the first world!

BE HAPPY.


I am happy. Well, generally.

I was just using my powers of deduction. The fact that it does not, means it cannot therefore be the variable (well at least not the exclusive variable).


And I was using my powers of sarcasm to agree with you.
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Life is whatever the individual makes of it. You can have nothing and make your life...good...bad...happy.....or depressing. But if you think about, life is so miniscule on a universal scale or even an "Earthly" scale. We really dont have any impact on this earth and will die out eventually and no one will most likely ever we were here.
But back to a human scale, life to me is incomprehensible just like death is. Its something that needs to just be lived and used to its full potential or use. Each person has a different level of potential so you cant really say whether or not someone has lived their life to the full potential unless its yourself

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karmacide wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


karmacide wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


Its_Only_Me wrote:

I really can't stand it when people are depressed about first world problems. If you're not a poor starving human in a third world country, you better be greatful for what you have. The fact that you have internet at your fingertips should be enough to make you happy.

I suppose the fact that it doesn't means it isn't the variable which accounts for happiness...


Nonsense! You live in the first world!

BE HAPPY.


I am happy. Well, generally.

I was just using my powers of deduction. The fact that it does not, means it cannot therefore be the variable (well at least not the exclusive variable).


And I was using my powers of sarcasm to agree with you.


Then it was a sarchasm!

Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit, and the person who didn't get it.
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ispy12 wrote:

I'm depressed most of the time, because nothing impress me, I believe in nothing, nothing makes me angry or happy, I don't love or hate anyone and it's hard to find a reason to live when you see life in a very neutral way...I'll live until I die and perhaps find a meaning one day or another, maybe not whatever. You find happiness when you stop looking for it.

Anyone else notice the trend in how many people say something exactly like this on CR?

I feel like a broken record talking about how risking your worthless life leads to finding new value in it....


Is defeatist nihilism really that big of a craze? Things don't seem to going so good for the cumulative human condition...

I mean, come on... I've suffered chronic depression all of my life. I have a neutral life view, but try to stay positive.
Sometimes when I've given up, something else comes along to give me better perspective and push through it.
It should not be unbecoming of someone to have this view from time to time, but all of the time...? That's tough.

Doesn't it sound a bit like "Someone who welcomes or allows death to enter, allows it to stay," the obtained
message from the very morbid series Another? While it is true that death should be embraced rather than feared,
It would be wise to distinguish that one need only recognize that they do not fear death, not that they readily will
welcome it to visit them and those around them at any time...such a request is taken very seriously and happens.

Those who wish for death will receive it, but mostly it befalls others before it takes them, as a lesson to keep the
notion reasonable...at least that's what I seem to notice. Death visits others to make you suffer if you wish for you,
yourself to suffer such an inevitable fate before it is your time. People who do not care for themselves make others
who care for them suffer far more than they do with their reckless behaviors or risky habits...karmic or not.

The only way to defeat nihilism is to acknowledge that a belief in nothing is a belief in nothing short of no progress.
It's like Chris Rock says in Dogma (a classic secular satire of religion), beliefs are hard things to change because they
are stubborn. Even presented with a myriad of facts, encounters and people who discount the reality of it, a person will
cling to a belief evermore so. Those who cling to nihilism and nihilistic principles will surely become what they eat, and
fall deep into nothingness. I would hate to wish that upon anyone, so they should just have a notion that it exists instead.

Knowing that from time to time you'll be sad, from time to time you'll be happy and from time to you'll lose or gain...
That's very important knowledge when one is to consider life, which most of us here have hardly lived at this point.
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I think life's pretty good
Posted 8/28/12
Life's a game but its not fair, i break the rules so i don't care
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Life's a game but its not fair, i break the rules so i don't care


How is life a game...?!
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DeliriumOxide wrote:


AshRandom wrote:


ispy12 wrote:

I'm depressed most of the time, because nothing impress me, I believe in nothing, nothing makes me angry or happy, I don't love or hate anyone and it's hard to find a reason to live when you see life in a very neutral way...I'll live until I die and perhaps find a meaning one day or another, maybe not whatever. You find happiness when you stop looking for it.

Anyone else notice the trend in how many people say something exactly like this on CR?

I feel like a broken record talking about how risking your worthless life leads to finding new value in it....


Is defeatist nihilism really that big of a craze? Things don't seem to going so good for the cumulative human condition...

I don't know if it's a craze, but it's widely associated with modernity. A lot of people assert that the mass rejection of theistic doctrine entails nihilism and they might be right. I suppose when you take away people's fake meaning, and they aren't creative enough to find their own, it might just be normal, or even possibly beneficial, for them to vanish into oblivion. We have no more need for the giant population of brainwashed wishful thinkers, than we have need for a population of nihilists. And of the two, it should probably be pointed out that only the former represents a global threat.


While it is true that death should be embraced rather than feared, It would be wise to distinguish that one need only recognize that they do not fear death[....]

I'm not sure what you mean by embrace death. I'm also not sure if living without the fear of death is beneficial.

Perhaps it would have been best to phrase it "they do not need to fear what comes after death?" The fear of death isn't escapable. It's hardwired into every animal. To actually escape the fear of death requires cognitive impairment. I can't find a basis to recommend that.


The only way to defeat nihilism is to acknowledge that a belief in nothing is a belief in nothing short of no progress.

There are multiple ways of defeating it, you could delude yourself with wishful thinking for instance, but I agree with the assertion that relativism is the appropriate alternative.


It's like Chris Rock says in Dogma (a classic secular satire of religion), beliefs are hard things to change because they
are stubborn. Even presented with a myriad of facts, encounters and people who discount the reality of it, a person will
cling to a belief evermore so.

Delusions are hard things to change because they're held by delusional people. I have plenty of beliefs, but as they are all grounded in evidence, any new evidence will immediately impact my beliefs on the associated subject matter. As I came to find meaning in life on my own, when presented with new evidence, I have the power to alter it accordingly. Someone seeped in religious, or nihilistic dogma lacks those abilities outright. They don't have the same cognitive skill set, they just have a precariously built house of cards. Which is actually why people tend to migrate from theistic doctrine directly to nihilism in a crisis. The semi-typical, "Oh there's no god? Then what's the point!" response, would be an example.


Knowing that from time to time you'll be sad, from time to time you'll be happy and from time to you'll lose or gain...
That's very important knowledge when one is to consider life

Well said. Relativistic views are the only ones that both function and make sense. But I'm not completely sure if depression alone leads to nihilism. Nihilism is a series of logical statements. Mind you, logical statements can be either true, or false and without evidence we can't know the difference. Nihilism is exactly as guilty of presuming the truth of their statements without the basis of proof as any other religious doctrine you could name and is therefore delusional for the same reason. They both either represent a lack of critical thinking faculties, or a phobic refusal to apply them.
Posted 8/28/12
Life is life. Describe it as much as you want, you will never be able to determine what life is. On the other hand, I think life is a good way to punish zombies and unicorns.
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shuyi000 wrote:


MokaForTheWin wrote:

Life's a game but its not fair, i break the rules so i don't care


How is life a game...?!


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