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Silver Link (Kokoro Connect's company) might be going under.
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How can they do something like that? He had a lot of funny and awesome roles, how is he not good enough? >.<
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WTF Silver Link???!!!
they can say that this was all a joke and all that crap but seriously, they crossed the line

Silver Link, what they did is beyond messed up. They better go apologize to Mitsuhiro Ichiki!
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Here's a detailed timeline of the incident

http://pastebin.com/Pu2hADMc

At first I felt like giving Kokoro Connect a try, but I won't forgive myself knowing that way I will support companies with disgusting and lowly ethics. Really, it's gonna be hard because every time I listen to Terashima I'm gonna remember what a scumbag he is. I'm wondering what they're gonna do now. Terashima and Ichiki is actually from the same company under Morikawa Toshiyuki (if I'm not mistaken). I wonder if this happens under his watch, and I hope Morikawa will set Terashii's butt under fire for this.

I think If Morikawa or any company fires Ichiki because they favor Terashii for his fame, all internet hell will break loose.

In fact, I think if a company like Crunchyroll would step up and pull out it's support from Kokoro Connect and publicize this news, I think it's going to serve as a huge blow for them. Of course it's up to CR to do it or not. I'm not gonna tell them to start hating money.

People who are at the top should never make fun of people at the bottom. Remember that in the wheel of life, there are times you'll be at the bottom too.

You know, I usually hate internet lynching and the like, but for this case I think they totally deserve it.
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laidbacktionist wrote:

Here's a detailed timeline of the incident

http://pastebin.com/Pu2hADMc

At first I felt like giving Kokoro Connect a try, but I won't forgive myself knowing that way I will support companies with disgusting and lowly ethics. Really, it's gonna be hard because every time I listen to Terashima I'm gonna remember what a scumbag he is. I'm wondering what they're gonna do now. Terashima and Ichiki is actually from the same company under Morikawa Toshiyuki (if I'm not mistaken). I wonder if this happens under his watch, and I hope Morikawa will set Terashii's butt under fire for this.

I think If Morikawa or any company fires Ichiki because they favor Terashii for his fame, all internet hell will break loose.

In fact, I think if a company like Crunchyroll would step up and pull out it's support from Kokoro Connect and publicize this news, I think it's going to serve as a huge blow for them. Of course it's up to CR to do it or not. I'm not gonna tell them to start hating money.

People who are at the top should never make fun of people at the bottom. Remember that in the wheel of life, there are times you'll be at the bottom too.

You know, I usually hate internet lynching and the like, but for this case I think they totally deserve it.


So you want to punish every single person in the company for the actions of just a few? Really? I'd rather see how Silver Link handles dealing with this than over-reacting and forming a lynch mob.
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Wow what assholes.

Poor guy
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stark700 wrote:

I read about this on another site earlier and not happy with what I'm seeing.

BS. Now I'm not sure on the future of Kokoro Connect now..(mainly the unlikeness of a Season 2). Considering this is one of the best series this summer imo, I am quite disappointed to see this shit.


not according to sales in japan so far with horrible bluray sales not even breaking 1k in both formats. It doesn't matter what we think if the show tanks in japan then the chances of second season are slim to none let alone us getting bluray release.
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deadpanditto wrote:


laidbacktionist wrote:

Here's a detailed timeline of the incident

http://pastebin.com/Pu2hADMc

At first I felt like giving Kokoro Connect a try, but I won't forgive myself knowing that way I will support companies with disgusting and lowly ethics. Really, it's gonna be hard because every time I listen to Terashima I'm gonna remember what a scumbag he is. I'm wondering what they're gonna do now. Terashima and Ichiki is actually from the same company under Morikawa Toshiyuki (if I'm not mistaken). I wonder if this happens under his watch, and I hope Morikawa will set Terashii's butt under fire for this.

I think If Morikawa or any company fires Ichiki because they favor Terashii for his fame, all internet hell will break loose.

In fact, I think if a company like Crunchyroll would step up and pull out it's support from Kokoro Connect and publicize this news, I think it's going to serve as a huge blow for them. Of course it's up to CR to do it or not. I'm not gonna tell them to start hating money.

People who are at the top should never make fun of people at the bottom. Remember that in the wheel of life, there are times you'll be at the bottom too.

You know, I usually hate internet lynching and the like, but for this case I think they totally deserve it.


So you want to punish every single person in the company for the actions of just a few? Really? I'd rather see how Silver Link handles dealing with this than over-reacting and forming a lynch mob.



The thing is, this has been going on for two months.

As I mentioned before, I don't usually agree with internet lynching. But if this thing was never exposed and aggregated, the perpetrator and the offense will never be brought to light.

What did this result in? Kokoro Connect is taking the biggest hit, because the BD sales plummet and the anime is getting bad reviews for reasons completely unrelated to the anime. Yes, the animators might be innocent. The storywriters are innocent. The major part of the production might be innocent and just minding their own business. The viewers are innocent.

Kokoro Connect becomes the scene of the carnage because the of the producer and the main cast, Terashii, and the rest of the crews laughing along this. They're dragging down the rest of the production for it. It was a live event, and they were representing the company's face. I mean it would be okay if this was just a slip of tongue or if he immediately apologized. But they were mean-spirited and they were carrying the face of the company, so yeah, the company is taking the blow for it.

So what now? Are we punishing every single person in the company for it? Sure seems like it, with stocks plummeting and bad reps everywhere. It can't be helped, with or without more people on the hate wagon. This is just like how if a teacher wants to punish you, instead he punishes the whole class because of you. That way you have the weight of guilt and blame on top of your punishment.

This is what the internet hate machine has churned out. And this is the moral lesson of the story.
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I for one am actually surprised that many anime fans in Japan are able to pull something like this off. Yes it does suck for us as well on our end because the show is licensed by sentai but due to these sales either they will not be able to a bluray or have to axe it completely.

This also makes me think of the reason why to love ru manga was cancelled the first time around before coming back as to love ru darkness.

The common consesus in the TLR threads is that, Yabuki had to quit because he can't be a full time mangaka for a weekly series and taking care of his little girl (she's three) at the same time (now that he has full custody).

Ataru was asking about how much TLR was Hasemi, Yabuki, and the editors... Well, according to the Manga Brain (a special section dedicated to interviews with a mangaka in WSJ), Yabuki usually discusses the story with Hasemi over the phone on Wednesdays, then spends half a day doing the preliminary draft on Fridays... Have another in-depth discussion with both the editor and Hasemi in the afternoon, and finish up the final product on Tuesday morning (Tuesday afternoon is his free time).

- There is this person called Nakamura Ine who is quite famous on the Nico Nico website (a large Japanese online community somewhat like Youtube), who turned out to be a minor (last year in high school) and also insinuated that he has something going on with a Kashiwagi Shiho.

- Now this Shiho was the wife of Yabuki Kentaro, the author of To-Love-Ru. She met Yabuki when he was looking for assistants, seduced him and ended up becoming his wife and gave birth to a daughter.

- But she hardly did any house work, neglected her daughter, and spent most of her days in front of a computer spending time in Nico Nico etc.

- January 2009, when Yabuki was sick with flu and bedridden, she kidnapped her own daughter and disappeared, and it turned out that she left her daughter at her parents' place while she was doing this and that with Ine.

- February 2009, Yabuki 'begged' Shiho to return for the sake of their daughter, and Shiho did return to Tokyo, but few days later she dropped out once again with the girl, this time taking a notebook computer and Yabuki's credit cards. Yabuki later stopped the cards, but a large sum of money was already taken out.

- Yabuki looked for them everywhere, but to no avail. March 2009, Shiho demanded a divorce on the grounds of personality clash and a large chunk of Yabuki's assets, but when the evidence of her infidelity was discovered on her computer, she then changed her stance and demanded money in exchange for the custody right of the daughter.

- Realizing it would take over a year to settle things, Yabuki accepted her conditions and got the daughter back.

- Haruna Sairenji was based on Kashiwagi Shiho, and there is a reason why her role was reduced dramatically since volume 13, and Yui getting more prominent. And apparently Shiho has sued/demanded more money for the character of Haruna recently.

- A comment of Yabuki's while this was all happening:
[While I was working hard on a manga that was focused on taking young girls' panties off, another man was taking my wife's panties off.]

- I forgot to mention that following the dispute over Haruna's character right, Yabuki feared his daughter getting hurt by all the debacle, so he accepted Shiho's demand yet again and ended the series prematurely.

Nakamura Ine, the famous guy in the horse mask performing music on nico, has admitted on his blog that he had extramarital relations with Kashiwagi Shiho, the wife of ToLoveru artist Yabuki Kentarou. On his blog he apologizes deeply once more to Yabuki and also to all that have been affected by this.

Kashiwagi Shiho had started getting in touch with the musicians on nico douga and got to know Nakamura Ine among others, and she had collaborations with them by helping them draw the art for the music they post up (under the handle name of Ume).

Kashiwagi and Yabuki are apparently now currently divorced since early this year (the extramarital relations happened before the divorce) and Yabuki has the custodial rights to their 3 year old daughter.

The entire issue was spotted and dug up through mixi and there was a very long battle as 2ch posters tried to find more evidence and confront Nakamura and Kashiwagi. There was a lot of unconfirmed info so I hadn’t posted about it till now.

There is still a lot about what happened between them, so interested parties that understand Japanese can read the wiki.

He had announced that he will be joining the Ouzoku Band but now he’ll leave them instead, and he’ll delete his mixi account, his blog, and all of his and Ume’s videos from nico douga.

http://aoindonesia.net/showthread.php?t=6621

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What happened was stupid, but complaining about it won't change it. What I want to know is what will happen to this anime and what Silver Link will do to resolve this issue. If I were in Silver Link, I would put Kokoro Connect on hold while I look for seiyus to replace Terashima and Kanemoto. After that, I would fire everyone involved with the scandal that supported it.

I noticed one really big hole in this mess: Did Ichiki say ANYTHING? I feel bad for the guy, but a fanbase isn't going to be enough to get him back on his feet. I did not hear any report about Ichiki's response, or IF he responded at all. If he doesn't speak up against Silver Link, Ichiki's career won't fare much better either.

I see a lot of holes in this. Who EXACTLY was involved? How many people supported the "joke"? We all know what happened, but I still don't see how this will affect Silver Link.
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laidbacktionist wrote:


The thing is, this has been going on for two months.

As I mentioned before, I don't usually agree with internet lynching. But if this thing was never exposed and aggregated, the perpetrator and the offense will never be brought to light.

What did this result in? Kokoro Connect is taking the biggest hit, because the BD sales plummet and the anime is getting bad reviews for reasons completely unrelated to the anime. Yes, the animators might be innocent. The storywriters are innocent. The major part of the production might be innocent and just minding their own business. The viewers are innocent.

Kokoro Connect becomes the scene of the carnage because the of the producer and the main cast, Terashii, and the rest of the crews laughing along this. They're dragging down the rest of the production for it. It was a live event, and they were representing the company's face. I mean it would be okay if this was just a slip of tongue or if he immediately apologized. But they were mean-spirited and they were carrying the face of the company, so yeah, the company is taking the blow for it.

So what now? Are we punishing every single person in the company for it? Sure seems like it, with stocks plummeting and bad reps everywhere. It can't be helped, with or without more people on the hate wagon. This is just like how if a teacher wants to punish you, instead he punishes the whole class because of you. That way you have the weight of guilt and blame on top of your punishment.

This is what the internet hate machine has churned out. And this is the moral lesson of the story.


It is what it is, that doesn't make it right.

To stop bullying, you go after the bullies. And the people involved have had their careers stained by this. The Japanese, and the Internet, won't forget. Which is the positive thing that has come out of this. As you've pointed out, the perpetrators have been caught. The actual punishment remains to be seen, but pressure has been put on Silver Light, so something will happen.

At this point, people are starting to overreact--in my opinion--due to their outrage. You don't need to kill a fly with a sledgehammer. Self-righteousness can often cause more harm than good.
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I see a lot of holes in this. Who EXACTLY was involved? How many people supported the "joke"? We all know what happened, but I still don't see how this will affect Silver Link.


We also don't know how willing the VAs were in the process. Though they've been around for while, you don't, in general, piss off producers.
Yamanaka Takahiro apparently orchestrated the whole thing, so we really don't know how much was scripted and how much the VAs really added themselves. To be honest, Yamanaka sounds like the kind of complete bastard that would hold a grudge, so they probably had reason to worry. Regardless, it still reflects very poorly on them.
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What happened was stupid, but complaining about it won't change it. What I want to know is what will happen to this anime and what Silver Link will do to resolve this issue. If I were in Silver Link, I would put Kokoro Connect on hold while I look for seiyus to replace Terashima and Kanemoto. After that, I would fire everyone involved with the scandal that supported it.

I noticed one really big hole in this mess: Did Ichiki say ANYTHING? I feel bad for the guy, but a fanbase isn't going to be enough to get him back on his feet. I did not hear any report about Ichiki's response, or IF he responded at all. If he doesn't speak up against Silver Link, Ichiki's career won't fare much better either.

I see a lot of holes in this. Who EXACTLY was involved? How many people supported the "joke"? We all know what happened, but I still don't see how this will affect Silver Link.



Well to summarize, I'm just gonna take bits from the link I posted above.


That's basically the people involved with the whole ordeal. (There's also Sugita who also helped spread this news to his followers on twitter)

I don't think Ichiki can do much. Japan is a very vertical society, so he's basically powerless. And if he wants to stay in showbiz, it's not as if he can just go against his company and agency. The internet denizens associates with this so much that they want to support the underdog, I'm guessing. Ichiki's victory would be like their victory.
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