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do you believe there is a jesus and god??
Posted 11/21/12
hello! wasnt the bible edited in the later years after the death of Jesus Christ and most of the countries possess that edited version,not the true Bible, which have mislead the people no?
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Posted 11/22/12 , edited 11/22/12
i used to think i was jesus, or god. but i am too sinful or bad or non-biblical to be either, i think. sometimes i still think i'm special though.

i know some supernatural things are real and i have been guided by a voice for a brief time before so i dunno maybe they exist, but i don't understand why they wouldn't just save everybody, but i guess that's because they respect free will or something i dont know.
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Posted 11/22/12 , edited 11/22/12

-Hertz wrote:

hello! wasnt the bible edited in the later years after the death of Jesus Christ and most of the countries possess that edited version,not the true Bible, which have mislead the people no?



Yup, somewhat. I think the heads of the church do that themselves more than the book itself. People also don't listen to Jesus. To forgive, to accept, etcetera.

Full story: It was originally a bunch of different books of different saints belonging to different sects. The reason it exists the way it does today is because of a complaint the Roman Emperor of the time heard about how one sects teaching of god (Malevolent) was not the god (Benevolent) he had been taught. This alarmed the current Emperor, so he sent for the leaders of each sect to come together and make a single book to follow under, probably, Pax Romana (peace of Rome). All to avoid the danger of fights breaking out amongst the differing sects. And, thus, the version of the Bible many practice today was born, or so said the History Channel.

I'm not too sure if this was just the new or the old Testament though.

Edit: I should really stop skimming when hyper.
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Posted 11/22/12
Personally no... but that's comes with being agnostic. I don't know what the truth is, and I am alright with that.
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Posted 11/23/12
I don't believe in anything without scientific evidence.
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Posted 11/25/12 , edited 11/25/12
i believe in keeping a open mind.. and i will leave it at that. my perceptions on those two things is another story
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Posted 11/25/12
I was brought up catholic but over time ive come to be an atheist. I dont currently believe in god but if there was more evidence for it i wouldnt be against changing my mind.
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Posted 11/29/12
No I don't believe in God. I acknowledge Jesus as a person who has existed in history and has some noteworthy actions he did but I do not follow the teachings and try not to associate with the people. I grew up in a Christian family as taught by The Church Of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints. Then when I accepted the responsibility of deciding my own ideals and beliefs, as I sometimes (constantly) clashed with the teachings and the people's interpretations) I denounced my "faith" and am un-religious to this moment and plan to stay so.

That being said, I do not go around trying to prove everyone "wrong". I believe everyone has a right to their opinion and do not wish to violate that. If they chose to believe something i don't that is perfectly understandable and acceptable. I appreciate their gestures in inviting to some of their activities, only when I understand their motives and the situation that brought about that invite, and their want to try and spread the ideal that is giving them so much life. I do not need to be muslim to believe the writings of the Kuran (sorry if I'm ignorant enough to spell it wrong) to be beautiful. Nor do I need to be Christian to believe that the community and humanity are something I, not pressuring to say others should to but I do because of who I am, prioritize. I would like to know more of individual religions so that I may come to understand why they function in certain ways and may learn how not to offend.
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Posted 11/29/12
Nope. Did I use to? Yes.
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Posted 11/30/12 , edited 11/30/12
Yes, I believe in Jesus, the Son of God, the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity.


olebull1 wrote:

I was brought up catholic but over time ive come to be an atheist. I dont currently believe in god but if there was more evidence for it i wouldnt be against changing my mind.

Hmm, does archaeological evidence work for you? http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/evidence-for-jesus.htm
Throughout the years, there's so much more evidence that's been uncovered that support that Jesus was someone that walked on this earth 2000 years ago and started what we call today, the Christian religion.

Not only this, even pagan writers (who lived during the time of the apostles) like Cornelius Tacitus http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/cornelius-tacitus.htm, and Jewish writers such as Flavius Josephus (who lived during the time of the apostles), a Jewish general and member of the priestly aristocracy of the Jews, wrote about Jesus and early Christianity http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/flavius-josephus.htm. All these guys give indirect testimony to Jesus and Christianity.
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Posted 11/30/12
I do believe in Jesus and God, before I used to be an atheist.
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Posted 11/30/12
Because Jesus is the derivative of God, with respect to man, Jesus should properly be written as:

G'(m) or dG/dm.

where, G stands for the function God and m stands for the variable man.

However, as Jesus is also a transformation of God to Man, it also must follow that Jesus can be written as a transformation matrix also:

[A]*[T] G->M

Where [T] is the transfomation matrix that takes a vector from set of G, God, to the set of M, man, and [A] represents the vector being transformed.

Therefore, dG/dm=[A]*[T] G->M

However, we run into a problem here, is God a function (G), a vector [A] that exist in the set of God (G), or rather, the system G itself. As God is, obviously, of one nature, he cannot be a function, a vector within a field, or the system itself, and so, Jesus cannot possibly be both the derivative of God, and the vector of God, in the realm of God, transform into man.

Thus, encountering this problem, we are forced to admit that Jesus is not, mathematically, tenable.

Therefore, Jesus doesn't exist or is a liar.
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Posted 11/30/12
Not really, I'm agnostic. I like to believe in things that only I want to believe in, but I won't spread the word and annoy the living hell out of people about it. What I believe in is what I believe in, and I don't need people judging my views just for the sake of a good argument. That's just annoying. Everyone should just believe what they want and shouldn't waste their lives telling other people that they're wrong. There's no point in that, it's just a big waste of time.
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Posted 11/30/12

suikojay wrote:

Yes, I believe in Jesus, the Son of God, the 2nd Person of the Holy Trinity.


olebull1 wrote:

I was brought up catholic but over time ive come to be an atheist. I dont currently believe in god but if there was more evidence for it i wouldnt be against changing my mind.

Hmm, does archaeological evidence work for you? http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/evidence-for-jesus.htm
Throughout the years, there's so much more evidence that's been uncovered that support that Jesus was someone that walked on this earth 2000 years ago and started what we call today, the Christian religion.

Not only this, even pagan writers (who lived during the time of the apostles) like Cornelius Tacitus http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/cornelius-tacitus.htm, and Jewish writers such as Flavius Josephus (who lived during the time of the apostles), a Jewish general and member of the priestly aristocracy of the Jews, wrote about Jesus and early Christianity http://www.allaboutthejourney.org/flavius-josephus.htm. All these guys give indirect testimony to Jesus and Christianity.


Atheists beleive that jesus existed they just dont beleive he was anything other than human.
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Posted 12/1/12
i believe in god but not religion.
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