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Religion is not like believing chewing gum is yummy.
If you define religion as true love for god, how could you say "love does trump religion on every level"? Please define what "love" and "religion" are in your wording.
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Gotta love how people speak with such certainty and authority on subjects that are so... well, subjective
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Loving god is like loving a wall. It won't reply and it certainly will never love you back. I actually got really sad watching so many pathetic replies on this thread. You do know that YOU didn't choose your religion, either your parents stuffed it down your throat, your friends or your supposed awesome society that is filled with shit decided what you should think and do. Think for yourself and do what YOU want to do, instead of being caught in the sadness we call faith/religion. And remember.. love each other you pieces of shit.
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froz-in wrote:

My life is my relationship with God, so no I would never marry outside my religion. Or better yet I would never marry a non-believer. Being bound with someone who does not have the same beliefs as you is bound to pull one side one way more than other.

Ex: if an ox that walks only in a straight line were to be yoked with another ox that walks only in a circle, then the oxen would either not go anywhere at all because of the conflicting push and pull, or one ox would over power the other forcing them to walk the way they do. Not saying that it isn't possible, but to prevent this from happening it's best not to be unequally yoked, meaning not having the same views.

With me being a Christian I wouldn't mind marrying someone who is a Catholic or something though. Just as long as they believe the only way into the kingdom is through the son Jesus.


So which ox is you? :P
What if you fell in love with a fellow Christian, and after getting married and having three kids, she confessed her complete lack of faith to you? Would you ditch her and the kids? Would you take the children from her? Or would you suck it up, and find a way to make it work? How would you live with your decision?


I'm an atheist. I would gladly shut up about my own beliefs as long as the other person isn't preachy. When it became time to have children, we would have to work something out, preferably an agnostic approach.

This enmity between religions could set up some Romeo and Juliet stories. Wouldn't that be a tragedy?
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I don't have a religion so only love! <3
Posted 9/8/12

verd12w wrote:


froz-in wrote:

My life is my relationship with God, so no I would never marry outside my religion. Or better yet I would never marry a non-believer. Being bound with someone who does not have the same beliefs as you is bound to pull one side one way more than other.

Ex: if an ox that walks only in a straight line were to be yoked with another ox that walks only in a circle, then the oxen would either not go anywhere at all because of the conflicting push and pull, or one ox would over power the other forcing them to walk the way they do. Not saying that it isn't possible, but to prevent this from happening it's best not to be unequally yoked, meaning not having the same views.

With me being a Christian I wouldn't mind marrying someone who is a Catholic or something though. Just as long as they believe the only way into the kingdom is through the son Jesus.


So which ox is you? :P
What if you fell in love with a fellow Christian, and after getting married and having three kids, she confessed her complete lack of faith to you? Would you ditch her and the kids? Would you take the children from her? Or would you suck it up, and find a way to make it work? How would you live with your decision?


I'm an atheist. I would gladly shut up about my own beliefs as long as the other person isn't preachy. When it became time to have children, we would have to work something out, preferably an agnostic approach.

This enmity between religions could set up some Romeo and Juliet stories. Wouldn't that be a tragedy?


Well it would be hard to believe someone was married to someone and had 3 kids and still didn't know, especially for me, but considering the world we live in today I wouldn't find it hard to believe if it has happened plenty of time before, lol.

Most logical thing to do here is to find a way to make it work between the spouse and when the children go older let them decide for themselves which path to choose. (or at least this is what I would do) Love can exist despite religion. The whole example of the oxen is to show that there can't be any forward momentum in faith as one. Ex: if I want to increase my relationship with the Lord then I would have to do it alone b/c my spouse is not going in the same direction as me. So the relationship won't grow spiritually, but regardless of this life goes on and there are plenty of other things you can agree or disagree on.
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Everybody has certain elements that they hold important to when it comes to relationships and religion happens to be one of those things for a lot of people.

For those who are deeply committed to their religion whatever it may be than it's important part of their lives and they are more likely to be attracted to and more likely to have a successful relationship with those that share those same beliefs.

If you want to have a lasting relationship than you actually need to like and get along with that person and if you don't see eye to eye on a lot of things than you're going to run into trouble when those warm fuzzy feelings you had when you first meet and were married are gone.
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That is a hard for me to answer. I often feel like I wouldn't get along with that person who is tied to their beliefs, than someone who isn't. If someone defined themselves as "spiritual" or a "spiritualist", then I may let it slide. I think in a way, if someone is does believe in a deity, but is a rational thinker, I guess, it may or may not bother me as much, just depends.
Posted 9/8/12
Love over religious cause religious kills!!
Everyone knows it's true.. war starters too.
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Love (except for hobby).
Posted 9/8/12
I don't love but if I DID she would haft to be atheist no matter what.
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cried a little bit here. ^

I could go on and on about my views but through my time on the forums I know it wouldn't matter, all of the people have already decided their course of action and there will be no "I see your point", no "that makes sense", no open mindedness at all. Therefore I shall say but one thing: In the end we're all humans aren't we?
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hmmm... the question is asked make's it a little biased in favor of the persons love rather than their Religion. The truth is that everyone would react differenty like anything else in life...we make different choices. The Important thing is to NOT Judge someone by the choice they would make in this situation...I would understand (but may not agree with) their choice either way and in these days and time that key value is overlooked by haters of organized or non organized religion especially christianity. yeppers im christian
Posted 9/8/12

StealthWar42 wrote:

Gotta love how people speak with such certainty and authority on subjects that are so... well, subjective


Yes I agree totally
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Posted 9/8/12
which ever one makes you happy
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