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good vs. evil what makes the best plot
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32 / F / room of iniquity
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Posted 9/9/12
i've seen a lot of anime
play a lot of games
and watch alot of K,J,Cdramas

Does a good bad guy make the plot or a long suffering beating the odds good guy

oh and please state a reference (i need something new to watch)

I just finished watching bridal mask
where the police were evil
they truly made the show

a good guy turned bad awesome
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Some of my favorite stories of good vs. evil include:

- Forces of good facing overwhelming odds
- A flawed and human hero
- A villain who is charismatic and sympathetic
- Gritty and dark story
- I tend to prefer tragic endings, or at least major sacrifices or loss to be made
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the ones where you don't know who is who.
ORR the ones where good friends/brothers start off with one view, but soon they start acting upon what they believe in and in the end, they end up supposedly enemies.
ORR any thing that makes me cry :')
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Old Boy
I Saw The Devil

Watch them.

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Honestly I don't like when good vs. evil is cut and dry. I like lots of muddled morals and general chaos. Here are my recommendations.



I'm sure there are more but I think this should give you a good bit to choose from.
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Why not evil vs evil like Riddick! Those movies were awesome!
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When I saw ur post, i thought about the last batman movie...
It's not an anime no, but applies to 'villain'

But that guy 'Bane'....
When I first saw the previews he looked so evil.
Then... I saw the movie... fight scenes were horrendous.
And Bane's line were corny...
And he cried....
And was defeated kinda easily towards the end.


So...
A villain that doesn't know how to fight back...
Who says stupid shits
Who cries....


doesn't cut it for me
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A little betrayal never hurts.
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Posted 9/12/12

crazyfirefly wrote:

Honestly I don't like when good vs. evil is cut and dry. I like lots of muddled morals and general chaos.


I don't mind basic G vs E stories, but I agree with @crazyfirefly. Stories that fall into a morally grey area are better. I think it better reflects the world, even if we would like to see it in black and white. Beyond that, other people have suggested some great series.

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I thinks it cool when there is no good vs evil, but more neutral vs neutral trying to defeat each other. Like Fate Zero or Game of Thrones. None of the players are good or evil per say, just different and they all battle each other for a central piece. As in, all the houses in Game of Thrones fighting each other for the Iron Throne.

That and when the hero dies and his followers/sidekick uses their death as motivation to defeat evil.

Oh oh and the theme of the unstoppable force clashing against the immovable object. Two powers that are so equal and opposite that the fight can't be won by either of them and a different path must be chosen in order for resolution.
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The "good" Good guys / girls I mostly can not stand. Just to good hurts my brain.
Usually I like the more cunning and dark charas more. Also the characters that are feared, but don't want anything bad are more likeable than a crusader of the good. Just my two cents.
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I find enigmas compelling, redemption too. I recently watched the movie Drive. There are a few plot holes in this neo-noir film but I liked the way Danish director Nicolas Winding Refn handled the lead character. The film has some edge and but it tends to be more of style than substance. And yes, the ending is predictable but the sequence of events arriving there is an interesting journey.

Most audiences have grown quite sophisticated from watching cinema, TV, live shows over time. Any story, live or animated, or game presented now has to consistently be interesting and memorable. No easy feat, this. Good versus bad, as previous posters have suggested, can no longer sustain and infatuate our cognitive interest indefinitely. Movies presently revered in the Criterion Collection suggest changing tastes and sentiments will also doom many cinematic efforts once thought exceptional in past eras. The Magnificent Ambersons (1942) is an example. The theme still has ongoing relevance today but the setting is stale and dated.

I like classic noir. Edge, also.

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need examples
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oh no i've seen most of these
oz ghost and
pandora hearts
kurozuka
i haven't seen
which is the best out of the 3
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justinitsu wrote:

I thinks it cool when there is no good vs evil, but more neutral vs neutral trying to defeat each other. Like Fate Zero or Game of Thrones. None of the players are good or evil per say, just different and they all battle each other for a central piece. As in, all the houses in Game of Thrones fighting each other for the Iron Throne.

That and when the hero dies and his followers/sidekick uses their death as motivation to defeat evil.

Oh oh and the theme of the unstoppable force clashing against the immovable object. Two powers that are so equal and opposite that the fight can't be won by either of them and a different path must be chosen in order for resolution.


is game of thrones like the book?
or are you talking about the book
i haven't finish so don't tell me
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