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How much do you think piracy contributed to it?
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Geneon, Central Park Media, Bandai Entertainment, Media Blasters, and TokyoPop. All these anime/manga companies have either went out of business in America or are a lot less active. How much do you think piracy contributed to it? If they figured out better business plans (CPM simulcasting would have give the NYC voice actors possible more shows they could've dubbed someday) with the new era of simulcasts, they might still have been around.
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Posted 9/13/12 , edited 9/13/12
Tell me a bit more about how good they were at marketing with the buying fans always complaining about them and stuff. Oh, I'm sorry, were we meant to blame piracy for their dumbness?
Posted 10/6/12

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Tell me a bit more about how good they were at marketing with the buying fans always complaining about them and stuff. Oh, I'm sorry, were we meant to blame piracy for their dumbness?


i agree lol
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Posted 11/23/12
i do not know about these... but i know about how much i think that piracy has contributed to malaysian entertainment industry. some record company and video distributors are forced to close or reduce the new releases of albums and/or video products. in malaysia, record labels such as emi, maestro records, musical sound organisation, power records, artiste united records has went out of business and this also happened to video distributors such as audio one, wawasan videovan and dragon jester. in malaysia, piracy rate of movies are more higher than other sector such as music and books. in malaysia, most of the people who buy dvd of english movies buys the more cheaper pirated at a price of rm10 compared to the original price of about rm50 to rm60. for television series, every legal product are priced at average rm100.

due to the piracy problems in malaysia, all original products of musical works and video products are compulsory to have the KPDNHEP logo. some products are expensive, but for me, i think goods and services costs us$100 to produce in malaysia costs about us$70 to us$75 here, one of the cheapest in asia.
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Posted 11/23/12
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Posted 11/23/12 , edited 11/23/12

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Tell me a bit more about how good they were at marketing with the buying fans always complaining about them and stuff. Oh, I'm sorry, were we meant to blame piracy for their dumbness?


Agree.

Piracy is not a problem with the people, its the company's fault. No one would pirate a product that is great, if it isn't then we get these people that say "hmm.. I'll pirate this anime to see if its any good..." And probably 60% of the time they wont bother paying for it anyway, unless the person has at least some moral sense. We do also have that category for those people who don't have enough money to buy the anime, I think its wrong for them to take down a Anime nevertheless, but there are people out there like that. But as the quote said, its a problem with the company at first, then the people, even the people at Steam agree with this (You should know what Steam is )

This is just the company pointing fingers at pirate's, as a way to pass the blame for their own mistakes, if it weren't for pirate's Anime would be almost unknown in Europe, and probably all places outside of Japanese language fields. [Beside America because of Funanimation, but it would still be very unknown]
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Posted 11/23/12 , edited 11/23/12
I've never heard of any other than Bandai and tbh, i've never seen anything good come from that company.

Nice way to blame "pirates" for their own faults :)

Also in other news, piracy has developed alot of things here in europe, if not for piracy we wouldn't even have anime here, some manga yeah, not much though.

Soo, i'd rather pirate something to try it instead of just buying it and finding out its crap. We're living in an age where we can get the info before we actually buy, opposite of before, yes it'll be harder for companies to start, but now its QUALITY > Quantity, if you want quantity its all free anyways
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Posted 11/23/12

Made me laugh so much I am not 2 sure why xD
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Posted 11/23/12 , edited 11/23/12
To be honest I think piracy made anime where it is today. Anime would not have become so popular with out piracy. It spread the word.
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Posted 11/23/12
I agree that piracy has made anime more well know to people, but still, if it means affecting the anime industry in a way that it will make them bankrupt, then i think it should stop. I don't see why people just don't legally watch it on crunchyroll. It's only £5 a month, and they are even offering a method such as CR Bucks to get it for free!

I think there should be more ways to legally watch anime because at the moment, it is limited. If i could watch stuff like D Gray Man or One Piece legally, then i would.
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Posted 11/23/12
I wouldn't care if the whole anime industry collapses. I would still live on with my life.
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Posted 11/23/12 , edited 11/23/12
It's more of a product of the time more than anything. In this day and age, spending $100+ on an entire series seems rather ludicrous. Why? Because there's so many alternatives. Piracy notwithstanding, there's Crunchyroll, Hulu, and Netflix. And even then pay-per-episode channels like Amazon and iTunes at least let you buy the first three episodes for less than ten dollars to get a feel of what you're buying. Then considering how television is dacying, so syndication is becoming a less and less viable option. Piracy at that point is probalby just the icing on the cake.

Oh, and the prices. Dear Zeus, Bandai had awful prices. Since they wanted to counteract importing, they charged the US Japanese prices so it ended up being close to $40 for 3-6 episodes. Eventually they came out with collections of ~26 episodes (which were usually priced at $40/series, which isn't half-bad), but boy howdy were their prices awful for their newer series.
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Posted 11/23/12
if it was priacy that shutthen down
then fumi and sentai and viz would be under too
its cus there dumbasses that didnt market right or made their stuff cost to much for us to buy i remeber seeing media blaster dvds 25 bucks a dvd for only 3 to 4 eps ripp offf
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Posted 11/23/12
I agree with Zora. The only reason why I've bought anime DVDs - and this year is the only year that I've done so - is because of CrunchyRoll's daily deals.

Streaming is where it's at. Physical media is going to become a niche market, and we all know that. Netflix streaming is huge, lots of people have dropped cable subscriptions and the like for Hulu or Netflix or whatever. This "cord cutting" is across the spectrum, it isn't just an anime thing.

Yet we have these companies that want to charge $100+ for these boxes, or crazy high prices for just a few episodes (I'm looking at you, Madoka). Whoever are running these companies want very badly to believe that they exist in a vacuum. To their minds, this "newfangled Internet thing" is all about pirates.
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