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10 years ago we wer buying 20GB computers 4 $300 and now wer buyin 500GB/1TB 4 like $300 also in 10 years u can c from a ps1 to ps vita/ps3 super slim/ xbox
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got to pre-order this 10 years early
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try not to hype now as you need to wait for another 25-30 years
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I agree with you but there hits point where technology takes even longer to develop. There was supposed to be hovercrafts in 2015 according to Back to the Future. Not like they were saying it'd happen, but I wouldn't say 50 years to make SAO, or at least I hope not... I'd want to die knowing I play "real virtual reality". But I'm sure it'd take longer than 10 years to create something as realistic as SAO. (Obviously not to the point of dying for real.) But you got to know, SAO is a device that puts you into a stasis of a dream like reality, not like the Oculus Rift coming out soon, where it's virtual when you put on the headset and you're still awake, but where you're actually asleep, in a coma like state. I don't know the details cause we're basing everything from what we know in SAO. However, I believe that you don't even know what's going on with the real you, while in SAO. So to make technology like that, I believe will take ALOT of time... I may be wrong it could come out within 10 years. I just find the complexity of SAO to be far beyond our technology.
Even in SAO, it was said they were in that game for months? Or is that wrong? How did they even eat when they were trapped? Unless fed through a tube at the hospital...


I don't know about you, but I certainly hope to still be alive at 80, sometimes seeing people's ages on these forums makes me feel old, but not old enough to think I have less than 50 years left.

I wanted to say a number that seemed realistic, and safe. The 3 pieces of technology I think we would need for something like NerveGear are: 1. Realistic 3d graphics 2. Someway of being able to read all the brain's signals including signals to say something and signals to move. 3. Some way of stopping those signals from moving your actual legs and arms, and also give visual signals to the brain from the 3d rendering system.

I think we are possibly less than 10 years away from #1.

For #2 the system I gave a link to the Emotiv site, http://emotiv.com/, the headset can "read" your thoughts, but you have to train it for what they mean. I think we are more than 10 years away from going from that to being able to read all your thoughts and brain signals.

For #3, I have only seen people suggest ways to do this, I think we are still over 20 years away from this.

Granted I will say sometimes the pace of innovation can surprise me. When I was a kid about 19-21 years ago, I used to play pretend that I was the head of a car company that got rich from making cars that could drive themselves, the cars would even report their locations and where they are going to a central server that would then collect traffic information, and anticipate traffic in the future, yes I was a big geek. Still when Google announced a few years ago that they were working on this I was completely surprised. I was also surprised they would steal an idea from a 9yr old. :P

I would say that fully immersive virtual reality is not even the coolest applications for this type of technology. With #2, and some robotics people that lose limbs could have prosthetics that you control exactly as you would control moving your arm, since it knows what signals that is. People with ALS could communicate just as easily as other people. With #3, people that lose their sight can have visual information sent from cameras to their brain. There are a lot of possibilities with this technology, granted I think the threat of microwaving your brain will be a problem that needs to be overcome.
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that would be cool to have and play.,.,.,., but i think there is some time before it happings
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key quantum computing
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mifune23 wrote:



I agree with you but there hits point where technology takes even longer to develop. There was supposed to be hovercrafts in 2015 according to Back to the Future. Not like they were saying it'd happen, but I wouldn't say 50 years to make SAO, or at least I hope not... I'd want to die knowing I play "real virtual reality". But I'm sure it'd take longer than 10 years to create something as realistic as SAO. (Obviously not to the point of dying for real.) But you got to know, SAO is a device that puts you into a stasis of a dream like reality, not like the Oculus Rift coming out soon, where it's virtual when you put on the headset and you're still awake, but where you're actually asleep, in a coma like state. I don't know the details cause we're basing everything from what we know in SAO. However, I believe that you don't even know what's going on with the real you, while in SAO. So to make technology like that, I believe will take ALOT of time... I may be wrong it could come out within 10 years. I just find the complexity of SAO to be far beyond our technology.
Even in SAO, it was said they were in that game for months? Or is that wrong? How did they even eat when they were trapped? Unless fed through a tube at the hospital...


I don't know about you, but I certainly hope to still be alive at 80, sometimes seeing people's ages on these forums makes me feel old, but not old enough to think I have less than 50 years left.

I wanted to say a number that seemed realistic, and safe. The 3 pieces of technology I think we would need for something like NerveGear are: 1. Realistic 3d graphics 2. Someway of being able to read all the brain's signals including signals to say something and signals to move. 3. Some way of stopping those signals from moving your actual legs and arms, and also give visual signals to the brain from the 3d rendering system.

I think we are possibly less than 10 years away from #1.

For #2 the system I gave a link to the Emotiv site, http://emotiv.com/, the headset can "read" your thoughts, but you have to train it for what they mean. I think we are more than 10 years away from going from that to being able to read all your thoughts and brain signals.

For #3, I have only seen people suggest ways to do this, I think we are still over 20 years away from this.

Granted I will say sometimes the pace of innovation can surprise me. When I was a kid about 19-21 years ago, I used to play pretend that I was the head of a car company that got rich from making cars that could drive themselves, the cars would even report their locations and where they are going to a central server that would then collect traffic information, and anticipate traffic in the future, yes I was a big geek. Still when Google announced a few years ago that they were working on this I was completely surprised. I was also surprised they would steal an idea from a 9yr old. :P

I would say that fully immersive virtual reality is not even the coolest applications for this type of technology. With #2, and some robotics people that lose limbs could have prosthetics that you control exactly as you would control moving your arm, since it knows what signals that is. People with ALS could communicate just as easily as other people. With #3, people that lose their sight can have visual information sent from cameras to their brain. There are a lot of possibilities with this technology, granted I think the threat of microwaving your brain will be a problem that needs to be overcome.


Unfortunly i dont think this will come out until the end of the century, or even the 22nd century, the brain is the biggest puzzle in modern Biology and it will take a hell of a lot of time to reverse enginner it! (for as much as i love my fantasy worlds its sad T-T we the fans, the ones who can only expect for our dreams to come out in stores one day, the ones who whished to be knights in medieval times, can only expect somenthing they cant be shure they will see before they die).

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There is a helmet some what similar to this but it's probably not that advanced graphic wise and its said to be heavy
And it's supposed to come out by the end of the year
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dbreezy6 wrote:

There is a helmet some what similar to this but it's probably not that advanced graphic wise and its said to be heavy
And it's supposed to come out by the end of the year


link? are you implying Sony Headset?
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they are called the sensics smartgoggles here is a link of one of the many videos about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXLU7GDHtsg
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Great discussion here...keep going on hoping. One part is the development of the technology, but to me seems like thats the easiest part. Much more complicated and time comsuming is the fact that our mind is something very complicated and the society will never allow such a "nervegear" that has a direct impact on our mind til we reach to the point to get positive results out of it. And actually the technology reminds me also of the game Assassins Creed.

We would have to be some kind of test subject to get in touch with it sooner.
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My two cents.

It looks like there's two sides here - one saying that Nervegear-like technology might be achievable within a decade and the other that says that it'll take 40+ years. Well think about it like this. Only a couple decades ago video games as a whole barely existed - and now look how far we've come. Technological advancements seem to be accelerating at dramatic speeds since the 80s and 90s because not only do we have people working on video games and movies (entertainment) we have people working on next-gen cellphones and scientific exploration of thoughts such as teleportation - things one thought to be fiction. If all sectors of technology pitch in a bit of the information they each find then nervegear, in my opinion, is absolutely possible within 1-2 decades.

Seeing/Hearing? Oculus Rift. Sure, it's the first of it's kind but soon afterwards there are going to be other competitors who will stride to make improvements.

Tasting/Touching/Smelling? I'll admit, it's a rather scary notion to think that technology will exist that can SHUT OFF the signals from your neurons (I would imagine something like blocking the synapses in the neurons in your.. hmm.. spine or brain?) and instead redirect signals from electronics into you. If anything goes wrong you could very well become paralyzed with multiple senses impaired. Tell me I'm not the only one who thinks of that. Nonetheless, The brain works in funny ways and we find tidbits of new discoveries all the time.

We ought to be happy if we can achieve step one and immerse ourselves in a 3D world first. The other sense can wait. Either way, I'll have butterflies in my stomach if I can see myself fly in Alfheim.
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actually there is a sort of hovercraft in existence :
http://www.livescience.com/22523-hover-vehicle-star-wars.html

EDIT: I'll throw my two cents as well to this conversation.
I personally think we might get something somewhat similar to Nerve Gear in about 10 - 15 years, by then Oculus Rift/EPOC neuroheadset will be either so advanced someone would have paired them together, or something better already exists in the horizon. There are 2 extreme issues with a SAO clone though - first off would be the ability to take control of your sense of smell and touch; as marinechan here said. Doing that would require (i'm no scientist though..) hacking into your very brain, which if not done properly could completely destroy those senses, thus leaving you paralyzed. Probably the easiest way of even accessing that part of your brain would be the back of your neck; which I think could only be done by getting some professional to weave wires into your skin or some sort of complex magnetic radio signal, possible using some crazy strong magnet (to attract the iron in our blood) that you can aim or something, which could take an additional (maybe) 50 years to create, if the second biggest issue goes well.

The second biggest issue is jealousy, money, and politics. For instance, these hackers are being funded by a huge company, (for instance LG) but LG gets this offer for perhaps $1,000,000,000 Dell will purchase this technology and it's copyright, but wont continue paying funds for the technological advancement - and destroys it, but keeps the copyright so no one can use that technology until someone comes and pays them $10,000,000,000, which wastes 10 years of development.
Things like that happen all the time on many things. if everybody where friends, (not saying thats the answer) we probably would be 200 years ahead of where we are now.
(BTW, that example sucked - but I think you get what I mean)
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Posted 11/24/12
Wow never expected the post to get so hyped up . But I would also like to see the advancement of technology to make a virtual reality.
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nifty lil gadget there guess i might see if its for sale in rl and how much
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