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Ultimately it's kind of the same boat as Harem anime

The key question is "What else ya got?"

If all a show has going for it is Ecchi/loli/harem well, frankly we've seen it all before a million times and it's unlikely you are going to get anything different.

If a show has a good story or good characters or an interesting premise or even just good writing, that just happens to have Echhi or Loli elements in it then it's something I will probably watch.

but if the entire point of the show is to bombard you with Ecchi moments, or show off how cute the loli is again and again, what is the point.

Ecchi, Loli, Harem, Moe, etc...

none of these things can sustain a show on their own.
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tommythecat wrote:


RolexKid wrote:


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They mostly suck. Moe doesn't make good anime. Deep plots like what you find with seinen anime are what it's all about.



This person knows what's up.


Yeah because something has to have a serious tone to be entertaining


Not necessarily, it's just an implication that seinen themed series usually are more interesting because of their quality story and mature themes.
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"In Japan, the term describes an attraction to underage girls (whether prepubescent, pubescent, or post-pubescent)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon

So many pervs in this forum. Someone call the FBI please.
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I love loli! So cute
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I love loli! So cute


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I think ecchi and loli each have their place.

Loli itself is sexualized to much and to often. Loli itself isn't bad, it's more the people who pervert it into the reputation it holds.
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Most of the time, it's the opposite though. Loli/ecchi is added to make up for horrible plot- if the story's bad, then add fanservice. However, I'm a loli-con, and I don't mind ecchi in the use of humour, so... all I can say is, "IF YOU HATE THE LOLI- I'LL KILL YOU!!!!"- or something along those lines...
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Who the hell dislikes things that are utterly adorable? I'll agree that it's a little too sexual sometimes, but I honestly doubt most people get legitimately turned on by loli's. The virtue of loli's are their overwhelming cuteness, not their sexual prowess. If you're put off by it, I might argue that you've got your head in the gutter just by considering it. My knee-jerk reaction to most loli's is "THAT'S FUCKING ADORABLE!" not "I'd hit that." If your first thoughts about loli's are sexual, then I could see why you might be put off. On the other hand, I can also see why the thought that there's someone that finds it arousing is distasteful. However, the fact that sock fetishes exist never enter my mind when I get dressed, so I'm a bit critical of that reasoning.

Ecchi is a bit harder to argue, but the best thing I can come up with is that looking at pretty things is nice. Technically speaking, a picture of a sunset or a beautiful landscape doesn't add anything to the plot, but for some reason, that's not a problem. The idea is to add to the atmosphere, and in that respect, I believe that ecchi can often provide some tension to an otherwise unassuming situation. With out backing myself up, I'll just say that I've seen ecchi done really well -- it can give you a taste of what a character might be feeling, and add to the romantic tension that's already there. I've also seen it done at just really really terrible moments, but that's a matter of execution. Plus, there's the somewhat obvious point that nice bodies are pleasurable to look at, but that's almost entirely subjective, so I'll leave that out for now. I could probably speak a lot more on the topic, but I need to get to bed, so I'll leave it there for now.
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I think I've said this before but to my mind

Loli = Rampaging Kitten

That is pretty much where my mind draws the line.
Any effort to move beyond the Rampaging Kitten into something adult, I just don't want to deal with. It's not cute and I'm not interested in it.





TripleBakaKimidori wrote:

Most of the time, it's the opposite though. Loli/ecchi is added to make up for horrible plot- if the story's bad, then add fanservice. However, I'm a loli-con, and I don't mind ecchi in the use of humour, so... all I can say is, "IF YOU HATE THE LOLI- I'LL KILL YOU!!!!"- or something along those lines...


I have to agree with this, there are a lot of bad shows that seem to try and hide their poor quality by layering on excessive amounts of either Ecchi or Cute or Both.

and that is pretty much what I meant when I ask "What else you Got?"

When you are counting on Ecchi to carry the show you have a bad show.

I don't mind having Ecchi in a show but you've got to have something else there to carry it,

A good show that happens to have Ecchi in it I can enjoy. Kenichi for example, is a great martial arts series that happens to have Ecchi in it. I love that series.

but Ecchi cannot make a bad show better, it just an effort to distract people from how bad a show is.
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Liahna wrote:

"In Japan, the term describes an attraction to underage girls (whether prepubescent, pubescent, or post-pubescent)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon

So many pervs in this forum. Someone call the FBI please.


Good thing you found wikipedia, after 10 pages I'm sure everyone was desperate to find out just what is lolicon.
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Rito2Ru wrote:


saksiss wrote:

I love loli! So cute






My favorite!
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tommythecat wrote:


Liahna wrote:

"In Japan, the term describes an attraction to underage girls (whether prepubescent, pubescent, or post-pubescent)"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolicon

So many pervs in this forum. Someone call the FBI please.


Good thing you found wikipedia, after 10 pages I'm sure everyone was desperate to find out just what is lolicon.


Well after seeing a few commets where they openly say that they like loli it's hard to believe that they know what they are talking about. And yeah i don't think they will agree with me. "It is an anime, is not real". I think all pedophiles are mentally ill, and as a person with a mental disorder they are likely to lose all sense of reality at some point. Note that in the anime industry there is not much control over this matter.

I'm not saying all of them are pedophiles, just seems that they do not know much of what they are talking about. I like childrens and i think they are cute too, but i'm not a lolicon and i don't think is good and normal.


Take a look at this page(It is a profile of a Pedophile)

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

I wonder whether it is harmful or not.
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Wll, Haters gonna Hate! Livin' Dat loli-life yo!!!!
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Liahna wrote:


Well after seeing a few commets where they openly say that they like loli it's hard to believe that they know what they are talking about. And yeah i don't think they will agree with me. "It is an anime, is not real". I think all pedophiles are mentally ill, and as a person with a mental disorder they are likely to lose all sense of reality at some point. Note that in the anime industry there is not much control over this matter.

I'm not saying all of them are pedophiles, just seems that they do not know much of what they are talking about. I like childrens and i think they are cute too, but i'm not a lolicon and i don't think is good and normal.


Take a look at this page(It is a profile of a Pedophile)

http://crime.about.com/od/sex/p/pedophile.htm

I wonder whether it is harmful or not.


I watched Nisenmonogatari and enjoyed it, as well I'm sure many others have but because there is a naked 500 year old with the body of an 8 year old taking a bath with a teenager, are we all pedophiles now? I can't stand real children so fear not the person whos taste in anime differs from yours. I have no mental disorder other than the fact that I'd love to go through life never having to work again.

Sick people will be sick, normal people will have their fun and that's where it ends with not a single human being harmed. If that's is too hard grasp then I don't know what to tell you. It's like claiming all Islamic people are potential suicide bombers, its a ridiculous and gross generalization.
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TripleBakaKimidori wrote:

Most of the time, it's the opposite though. Loli/ecchi is added to make up for horrible plot- if the story's bad, then add fanservice. However, I'm a loli-con, and I don't mind ecchi in the use of humour, so... all I can say is, "IF YOU HATE THE LOLI- I'LL KILL YOU!!!!"- or something along those lines...


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