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Posted 6/9/13 , edited 6/9/13

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Shin Sekai Yori won Best Anime of 2012 by popular vote? That's a major shocker to me. I wasn't following that thread at all, but I would have never expected what I considered to be one of the more unpopular series of 2012 to be considered best. Not that I'm complaining! It's one of my favorite animes ever at this point. Maybe this will get some more discussions rolling, I've been dying to talk more about this show.

I was surprised it made it as far as it did as well. It was based on elimination rounds, but each one was cleared by majority vote. Shin Sekai Yori directly defeated: Humanity Has Declined (16 to 12), Sword Art Online (24 to 21), The Pet Girl of Sakura Hall (25 to 24), and Psycho-Pass in the final round (30 to 24).

One flipped vote in the battle against Sakurasou could've changed history in this case though.
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It's probably the most original anime this year, whilst it did have problems overall its animation, soundtravk and story telling where all top notch so its not that surprising to me I guess.

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Shun too, episode 10...

Always like to discuss this show/novel if there are new questions to be asked.


Have you read his other books? Crimson labyrinth?
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Posted 6/9/13 , edited 6/9/13

mipegg wrote:

It's probably the most original anime this year, whilst it did have problems overall its animation, soundtravk and story telling where all top notch so its not that surprising to me I guess.

Spoilers for the end of the series:




hpulley wrote:

Shun too, episode 10...

Always like to discuss this show/novel if there are new questions to be asked.


Have you read his other books? Crimson labyrinth?


You have an extra 's' on your spoiler tag so it isn't spoilered.



I have several of his other novels sitting on my bookshelf along with another 100 or so (not kidding) unread novels. One day when I stop watching so much anime I might actually read all the books I've bought, including his... but yes, I at least have The Crimson Labyrinth and 5 others I think. The Glass Hammer, Lesson of the Evil, Isola... I thought about taking them to India with me but took other stuff instead, wasn't sure horror was the right thing to take on a plane.
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hpulley wrote:


mipegg wrote:

It's probably the most original anime this year, whilst it did have problems overall its animation, soundtravk and story telling where all top notch so its not that surprising to me I guess.

Spoilers for the end of the series:




hpulley wrote:

Shun too, episode 10...

Always like to discuss this show/novel if there are new questions to be asked.


Have you read his other books? Crimson labyrinth?


You have an extra 's' on your spoiler tag so it isn't spoilered. But to answer it really isn't a spoiler anyways: no, they still won't get death feedback according to the novel because of the way they made them to NOT induce death feedback. It is such a low level response that even though they consciously know they are human now, they still won't get death feedback. I think that is perhaps one weak point of the premise of death feedback but without this the whole ending of the novel breaks down so... assertion it is! If they had got death feedback then Saki would have died when she killed Squealer.

Oh and it is Saki and Satoru at the end, not Mamoru who sadly died with Maria.

I have several of his other novels sitting on my bookshelf along with another 100 or so (not kidding) unread novels. One day when I stop watching so much anime I might actually read all the books I've bought, including his... but yes, I at least have The Crimson Labyrinth and 5 others I think. The Glass Hammer, Lesson of the Evil, Isola... I thought about taking them to India with me but took other stuff instead, wasn't sure horror was the right thing to take on a plane.


Im not sure that there are many things worse than the horror of finding yourself in india tbh
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hpulley wrote:
I thought about taking them to India with me but took other stuff instead, wasn't sure horror was the right thing to take on a plane.


Im not sure that there are many things worse than the horror of finding yourself in india tbh


Sadly, you are correct... the old world can be scarier than the new world. It was sad, I wish they would improve their situation.
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So I finally finished watching this show, after having it on hold for months. No idea why I stopped, but once I got started again there was no stopping.


A clear sign that tells you that the anime you just finished was really good, is that you get melancholic and keep thinking about the things that happened in it. I'm sad that it ended, but happy I got to experience it.

Sure, it had its slow moments - but honestly, this was never an action filled show to begin with. What I love about this show is how much I ended up caring about the characters, how interested I ended up being in the world and just how mysterious it was.

They made a really good world for this story, and revealed the seemingly peaceful world to be rife with madness and feelings that could change the world. In the beginning I kept thinking that something was off, and couldn't help but get this creepy feeling every time something peculiar happened. When it got explained later, it made sense why it felt so weird.


Lots of good questions were posed by the show, and it showed us a world that was not black & white. Just different shades of grey. It all felt very realistic, even more so when you consider how far into the future it is supposed to be.

The ending was satisfactory to me, and I thoroughly enjoyed the journey. My only regret is the same as Saki, that the child of Mamoru and Maria never got to be a human, made me a little sad. Wish they had shown us what happened to them as well, but I suppose it was for the best...

10/10 and I will never change that rating. Planning on eventually buying this show in blu-ray.
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The ending was satisfactory to me, and I thoroughly enjoyed the journey. My only regret is the same as Saki, that the child of Mamoru and Maria never got to be a human, made me a little sad. Wish they had shown us what happened to them as well, but I suppose it was for the best...

10/10 and I will never change that rating. Planning on eventually buying this show in blu-ray.

I also rated it 10/10 and already own all 9 volumes on Bluray! It is a Japan only release; as far as I know it was never picked up for North American release.

I sent away for my all volume bonus picture recently. I hope it gets there in time. You only have until Friday to apply for it but it is only a picture so if I don't get it, it won't be the end of the world. Interesting thing is they asked on the application for your favorite character and scene so I assume this is what you get a picture of if they can do it. For me, I said at the start of episode 16 where Saki and Maria are children with wreaths of flowers in their hair, just such a happy moment in time for them with all the sadness that follows... and I said Maria was my favorite character so if they can't send me one of that scene I hope they send me a nice one of Maria. I love Saki too but Maria... sigh. So sad!

I read the novel too and it doesn't explain any further what happened to Mamoru and Maria unfortunately. I really wish they'd pressed Squealer for that information when they questioned him before his trial. To the end of the book, to the very, very end I was really hoping that Maria was in fact alive. I had hoped that they had just amputated part of her to send the bone back for analysis, I hoped that she would come running into the room but alas, it never happened. The last scene of the anime is the same as in the book with the words, "With the power of your imagination, you can do anything!" an amazingly uplifting declaration after what is a very depressing book in many ways.

Love the series to pieces, it is infinitely rewatchable as you catch different hints every time you watch it or I do anyways.
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AHTL wrote:

So I finally finished watching this show, after having it on hold for months. No idea why I stopped, but once I got started again there was no stopping.


A clear sign that tells you that the anime you just finished was really good, is that you get melancholic and keep thinking about the things that happened in it. I'm sad that it ended, but happy I got to experience it.

Sure, it had its slow moments - but honestly, this was never an action filled show to begin with. What I love about this show is how much I ended up caring about the characters, how interested I ended up being in the world and just how mysterious it was.

They made a really good world for this story, and revealed the seemingly peaceful world to be rife with madness and feelings that could change the world. In the beginning I kept thinking that something was off, and couldn't help but get this creepy feeling every time something peculiar happened. When it got explained later, it made sense why it felt so weird.


Lots of good questions were posed by the show, and it showed us a world that was not black & white. Just different shades of grey. It all felt very realistic, even more so when you consider how far into the future it is supposed to be.

The ending was satisfactory to me, and I thoroughly enjoyed the journey. My only regret is the same as Saki, that the child of Mamoru and Maria never got to be a human, made me a little sad. Wish they had shown us what happened to them as well, but I suppose it was for the best...

10/10 and I will never change that rating. Planning on eventually buying this show in blu-ray.


I agree. I actually gave it up around ep 6-7 if I recall. I just didn't feel compelled to continue. Ironically it was a comment made about the show that perked my interest. Thus got me back into it. The main prob is waiting each week doesn't suit the anime, some shows work better having more eps grouped together. Some shows are just better waiting each week than others, a sign of a good show is that you can't wait which ironically is its own undoing sometimes.

As for maria & mamoru, sadly their remains were found, it's all in the words spoken not what is seen on screen. They must have had the child shortly after fleeing, in that moment of when their defences where down, they were killed thus a child who never knew anything of humans was created. It's sad cos the child knows nothing of right & wrong or of humans. As for the parents, they used portions of their remains to show they died. Why would the humans doubt when they have the answers they wanted?

I think if they showed it, it would only show just how evil squeeler really was despite knowing how far he went anyway. Ultimately we already know from what we have been given. Normally I like seeing extra to concrete the theories but this time was perfectly done so there's no need.

I await the dub they announced with the usa release! Please be suitable to each character & keep the anime awesome!
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I forgot Sentai had picked this up and with a dub too! I hope they release it on Bluray here too as it is absolutely gorgeous!

Still 10/10 and best anime of 2012 for me. I have to rewatch my import Blurays again.
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I forgot Sentai had picked this up and with a dub too! I hope they release it on Bluray here too as it is absolutely gorgeous!

Still 10/10 and best anime of 2012 for me. I have to rewatch my import Blurays again.


With any luck it should come to uk/europe, mvm already confirmed a release but can't confirm on hd or dub. Really hope they do, if not, getting from usa.
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For anyone wondering if you should watch it, this series had a wonderfully unique art style and was dark and allegoric of human society unlike any anime I've ever seen before.

If you feel like anime is getting too repetitive or kiddy for you, watch this anime -- it'll change your mind.

Warning: the show starts off extremely slowly for the first four episodes. It works in the Inception sense, in that the more you watch, the more you understand, and the more you understand, the better it gets.
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For anyone wondering if you should watch it, this series had a wonderfully unique art style and was dark and allegoric of human society unlike any anime I've ever seen before.

If you feel like anime is getting too repetitive or kiddy for you, watch this anime -- it'll change your mind.

Warning: the show starts off extremely slowly for the first four episodes. It works in the Inception sense, in that the more you watch, the more you understand, and the more you understand, the better it gets.


I concur, as I gave it up thinking it was dull. Trust me, when I got back into it & watched more it radically changed! Simply awesome!!
I also can't wait to hear the dub cast. Loved the sub/jap dub & hope it will be simply awesome detail like other anime as of late!

To all thinking of watching it, I implore you to stick at it a fair few eps, that way you truly see the beauty, the dark and the heart. Just as attack on titan was 2013 best, this was 2012.

Hell i convinced my bro who even tried giving up around ep 7, it was the 2nd half that clinched it for him. He wished he had watched it with me from the start all those months ago. Cos of it, I know keep a far more open mind on all anime.
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