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Posted 2/7/13
Things are getting very interesting.
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Just got done watching the latest episode. Holy shit. This hands down the best anime currently airing. It makes me genuinely sad that CR doesn't have it. I really wish they would work out a deal with Funimation to allow streaming of their series.
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AsuraCryin wrote:

Regarding the "chief" and Sybil System core:



Good points, and very similar to what I've been thinking except:



Yowa29 wrote:

This is the type of anime more studios need to start trying to make. This show is awesome.


I agree 100%.

Some things I've been thinking about...
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Love this new episode. Great plot twists towards the end. While I'm pissed off that I have to wait a week, I can get my dose of Urobuchi by watching Fate/Zero.
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So there's a lot of cool ideas in this thread, and I think I've finally got one that I like after Episode 16.
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pretty sure i said this somewhere, the director/producer said

moe is banned in the building during the production of the anime
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Posted 2/8/13

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I agree with almost all of that., but you might want to spoiler it for other people. A couple of caveats...

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AsuraCryin wrote:

Regarding the "chief" and Sybil System core:



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deadpanditto wrote:

I agree with almost all of that., but you might want to spoiler it for other people. A couple of caveats...

Posted 2/8/13
I don't think Makishima has any relationship with Sybil; the role he plays in Psycho-Pass is that of an observer; he foresees the daily lives of citizens and builds his philosophy his observations. If anything, I think Makishima is far more interested in human sociological responses and psychological actions. I don't think his actions were that of rebellion but to usurp Sybil's position. Makishima desires to watch the response of a society in turmoil and what will result from such chaos. Having Makishima related to Sybil in any fashion sounds incredibly cheap and really demeans his actions thus far.
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Posted 2/8/13

AsuraCryin wrote:

I don't think Makishima has any relationship with Sybil; the role he plays in Psycho-Pass is that of an observer; he foresees the daily lives of citizens and builds his philosophy his observations. If anything, I think Makishima is far more interested in human sociological responses and psychological actions. I don't think his actions were that of rebellion but to usurp Sybil's position. Makishima desires to watch the response of a society in turmoil and what will result from such chaos. Having Makishima related to Sybil in any fashion sounds incredibly cheap and really demeans his actions thus far.


I don't entirely disagree with you, but his desire " to watch the response of a society in turmoil" by usurping Sybil's position isn't enough, imo. People, even psychopaths, don't take such a course of action without a trigger. You have to admit that Makishima is going to extraordinary lengths, taken over years, to play out his plan. IMO, if he's doing this solely because he "can" then that cheapens him as a villain. I want a better reason than that.
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AsuraCryin wrote:

I don't think Makishima has any relationship with Sybil; the role he plays in Psycho-Pass is that of an observer; he foresees the daily lives of citizens and builds his philosophy his observations. If anything, I think Makishima is far more interested in human sociological responses and psychological actions. I don't think his actions were that of rebellion but to usurp Sybil's position. Makishima desires to watch the response of a society in turmoil and what will result from such chaos. Having Makishima related to Sybil in any fashion sounds incredibly cheap and really demeans his actions thus far.


I don't see the contradiction between rebelling against Sybil and observing psychological reactions. In fact, destroying Sybil would create quite an interesting Psychological response, wouldn't it? If, while observing the psychology of a society, he feels like Sybil is unjust, where does that contradict his position as observer? Let's also say this: If Sybil does use humans, wouldn't an observer like Shogo be an obvious choice for the position? To say that he has a relation to Sybil, or that Sybil needs him, says nothing about his position as an observer. He can still observe while being related to Sybil, and he can still observe society while rebelling against it. I guess I just don't see why him being related to Sybil, or wanting to rebel against it demeans his actions at all. Or can you explain why it does?

Finally, I'll just say that if this was in response to my post, I stated that I was not too keen on the idea that he was "out for revenge," only that it was a possibility that explained a few things. But even if he is, that doesn't need to be his only reason for doing things. Revenge stories often feature the protagonist being "consumed by revenge," but wanting revenge in itself does not need to get in the way of your other goals, and I think you're right that Shogo's reason to live is to observe the Psychological states of a society. However, this goal does not clash with any sort of revenge plot -- in fact, they could have the same end game. But again, I don't think it's the case, I just think that it explains a few things that we were given earlier in the show.

Edit: Plus, I think the idea that something made him the way he is slightly more interesting than "he was just born that way." The character feels a little deeper to me, but that's entirely subjective.
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I think this is similar to the world we're living in now.
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all i have to say is.... RIP to my fave ;A;
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Posted 2/8/13

deadpanditto wrote:


AsuraCryin wrote:

I don't think Makishima has any relationship with Sybil; the role he plays in Psycho-Pass is that of an observer; he foresees the daily lives of citizens and builds his philosophy his observations. If anything, I think Makishima is far more interested in human sociological responses and psychological actions. I don't think his actions were that of rebellion but to usurp Sybil's position. Makishima desires to watch the response of a society in turmoil and what will result from such chaos. Having Makishima related to Sybil in any fashion sounds incredibly cheap and really demeans his actions thus far.


I don't entirely disagree with you, but his desire " to watch the response of a society in turmoil" by usurping Sybil's position isn't enough, imo. People, even psychopaths, don't take such a course of action without a trigger. You have to admit that Makishima is going to extraordinary lengths, taken over years, to play out his plan. IMO, if he's doing this solely because he "can" then that cheapens him as a villain. I want a better reason than that.


I somewhat agree with both points but to me, it seems like Makishima Shougo is one of those cruel humanists who embraces the dark side of the human mind. The way he tortures people both physically and mentally shows that in some of the previous episodes.

In a way, I can see that he is an observer with his bizarre Shakespeare dialogues and monotones. I guess he is sort of the mastermind and puppet master behind many of the events so in a way, it expands his roles beyond just observing events around the city.

I'm still curious on two things though:

1) His past on what led him to become such an individual
2) Why exactly his PP level is 0 as he describes it as pure white despite his dangerous and inhumane nature.
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