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What do you think about cannabis?
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Posted 10/4/12

cruentus wrote:


Winterfells wrote:
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Even though marijuana is not as "bad" or harmful as other drugs, cannabis smokers are deluding themselves when they say it's "natural" therefore it's not harmful. Every time you inhale smoke into your lungs, it will harm you over time. Don't kid yourself.


Well said. Just because something is natural does not mean its harmless, in fact everything could be considered to have some sort of risk of danger... even eating food can pose risks of death. But you also left out that smoking cannabis is not the only way of using it. There are edibles, and vaporizers that completely negate the risks of smoking. Inhaling smoke is never a good thing, but some people don't care about the risks just like many people don't care about the much worse risks of smoking cigarettes.

Also, how do we find out exactly what health risks there are when using cannabis if everyone thinks its a bad thing? Especially if its illegal.


How do we find out? Through empirical research, of course. The University of Mississippi (Ole Miss) has a marijuana farm and conducts research, including on its effects. (Now you know why Ole Miss is always listed as one of the nation's premiere party schools!) Seriously, though, marijuana is an hallucinogen which impairs judgment and reasoning, increases heart rate, and adversely affects memory. It is also a "gateway drug," that term having fallen out of grace lately. Nonetheless, it remains an accurate description. Although marijuana's initial criminalization resulted from cultural bias and persecution (primarily against poor Hispanic migrants), its continued criminalization is a matter of public safety.
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^Hm, I don't think cannabis is a gateway drug. I know plenty of people who only use cannabis and nothing else. It doesn't make you use other drugs, though it CAN impair your judgment. If that's the only requirement for something to be a gateway drug, then alcohol is a gateway drug. Yet it is legal and more physically harmful when ingested than cannabis is. Criminalization is a little harsh. Prison cells have better uses than being wasted on people who were caught in the possession of a few buds.
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^Hm, I don't think cannabis is a gateway drug. I know plenty of people who only use cannabis and nothing else. It doesn't make you use other drugs, though it CAN impair your judgment. If that's the only requirement for something to be a gateway drug, then alcohol is a gateway drug. Yet it is legal and more physically harmful when ingested than cannabis is. Criminalization is a little harsh. Prison cells have better uses than being wasted on people who were caught in the possession of a few buds.


Of course it doesn't make you use other drugs. But by impairing your judgment it makes it easier to be convinced to try other drugs, especially to intensify the high. And, yes, by that reasoning alcohol is also a gateway drug. But I take issue with the idea that prison cells have better uses. So long as marijuana remains criminalized, then its illegal possession and/or use should and must be punished, whether by fine or imprisonment.
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^Criminalization should be logical, though. If there is a perfectly legal substance for recreational use that is more harmful and addictive than weed (tobacco and alcohol), then it wouldn't make sense to criminalize weed. It should either be legal or the more harmful substances should be made illegal.

Laws shouldn't be made against things arbitrarily. There should be evidence and reasoning backing up laws or else it'd be cruel to ding people for doing certain small things but allowing others who do more harmful things to go unpunished.
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^Criminalization should be logical, though. If there is a perfectly legal substance for recreational use that is more harmful and addictive than weed (tobacco and alcohol), then it wouldn't make sense to criminalize weed. It should either be legal or the more harmful substances should be made illegal.


A point well-taken. Indeed, prohibition was attempted early in the 20th century in the US. However, alcohol proved to be something of a cultural prerogative, and ultimately defeated its own ban. You might see something of the same in states' acceptance--in the face of Federal opposition--of medical marijuana usage. . .
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^Yes, I am very glad marijuana is widely available. I will continue to use it until I don't feel like it anymore.
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I think if someone has to take something to enhance their life, then their not really living life at all. most people like this have very irrational thinking. and live most of their lives in denial(to a certain point we're their denial seems the real one). there are many ways to live life so I'm not going to tell anyone how to live theirs but I know smoking marijuana or how ever you want to use, it can open your world up to something you don't want it to be later on..I know from experience.
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Of course it doesn't make you use other drugs. But by impairing your judgment it makes it easier to be convinced to try other drugs, especially to intensify the high. And, yes, by that reasoning alcohol is also a gateway drug. But I take issue with the idea that prison cells have better uses. So long as marijuana remains criminalized, then its illegal possession and/or use should and must be punished, whether by fine or imprisonment.


There're states out there that give you a felony just for a stem. I understand it's illegal, but it's not right to make someone a felon over that. Small amount anywhere in this country should never be over a simple misdemeanor and confiscation. It shouldn't be illegal, PERIOD. Not when there's two legal drugs that been proven to be more damaging to your body.
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It's undeniably wrong that it is a felony and alchohol is not. It's innevitable that it is legalized eventually, just a matter of time now. Well, it's far from the only pointless law we have, and I like the alchohol more anyway..
Posted 10/4/12

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I think if someone has to take something to enhance their life, then their not really living life at all. most people like this have very irrational thinking. and live most of their lives in denial(to a certain point we're their denial seems the real one). there are many ways to live life so I'm not going to tell anyone how to live theirs but I know smoking marijuana or how ever you want to use, it can open your world up to something you don't want it to be later on..I know from experience.


Some people like to take risks in life. It's thrilling. Living a 'normal' life of work/school + family + whatnot is, honestly, very boring to me. There's nothing wrong with listening to music to feel a little better. There's nothing wrong with drinking a few shots of rum or eating a special brownie to feel better. It's an unpopular opinion, but I believe things shouldn't be banned or made illegal simply because they are potentially dangerous. That alone is not a good enough reason. There has to be more.

Knives are dangerous if you decide to pretend to be a samurai and flail them around stupidly. Guns are dangerous when you decide to play cowboy and aren't careful about proper maintenance and storage. Every drug is dangerous when you take more than the recommended amount. People ought to be responsible for their own actions rather than blame the dangerous nature of certain objects or substances.
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alniau wrote:

I think if someone has to take something to enhance their life, then their not really living life at all. most people like this have very irrational thinking. and live most of their lives in denial(to a certain point we're their denial seems the real one). there are many ways to live life so I'm not going to tell anyone how to live theirs but I know smoking marijuana or how ever you want to use, it can open your world up to something you don't want it to be later on..I know from experience.


Some people like to take risks in life. It's thrilling. Living a 'normal' life of work/school + family + whatnot is, honestly, very boring to me. There's nothing wrong with listening to music to feel a little better. There's nothing wrong with drinking a few shots of rum or eating a special brownie to feel better. It's an unpopular opinion, but I believe things shouldn't be banned or made illegal simply because they are potentially dangerous. That alone is not a good enough reason. There has to be more.

Knives are dangerous if you decide to pretend to be a samurai and flail them around stupidly. Guns are dangerous when you decide to play cowboy and aren't careful about proper maintenance and storage. Every drug is dangerous when you take more than the recommended amount. People ought to be responsible for their own actions rather than blame the dangerous nature of certain objects or substances.


OK, this point I will readily concede and agree with wholeheartedly. People really must take responsibility for their own actions. Well-spoken.
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Watermelonheaven wrote:

Some people like to take risks in life. It's thrilling. Living a 'normal' life of work/school + family + whatnot is, honestly, very boring to me. There's nothing wrong with listening to music to feel a little better. There's nothing wrong with drinking a few shots of rum or eating a special brownie to feel better. It's an unpopular opinion, but I believe things shouldn't be banned or made illegal simply because they are potentially dangerous. That alone is not a good enough reason. There has to be more.

Knives are dangerous if you decide to pretend to be a samurai and flail them around stupidly. Guns are dangerous when you decide to play cowboy and aren't careful about proper maintenance and storage. Every drug is dangerous when you take more than the recommended amount. People ought to be responsible for their own actions rather than blame the dangerous nature of certain objects or substances.


Couldn't have said it any better myself.
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Going to add that using a vaporizer or eating THC is the way to go if you're going the healthy route. And yes I said healthy. Weed is also no different than any other substance. It is not meant to be done everyday. Once every 2 weeks is perfect, but not reasonable for recreational users. So try to meet that mark and you're well on your way to sensible drug use. :)

If you want your mind to be truly open in the broader spectrum of things, please watch this video too. It certainly shall not disappoint. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygWxXphYRos
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i personally don't give any kind of crap about cannabis, it's no harm to me, so i don't really care what other people do with it unless it negatively affects me somehow.
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it beats drinkin'
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