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Posted 4/4/13
Humans probably only know 1% of what needs to be known about our own bodies. Just because someones brain acts funny in a coma does not mean there is a heaven/hell
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DivineMoonBlossoms wrote:

@.@ Religion confuse me a book that's been changed like 200 times past down from 2013 years ago and more
any one ever played shards with like 13 people should try it whit like 6 billion people and see how the story changes

>scientifically proven facts i take this one
>Religion

am more interested in living for to day than some thing i don't no if its real or not got my own problems and praying to gods not going to fix it
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Maybe it started with a guy that accidently spilled wine into a lake, and helped someone remove dust from the eye. Now all of a sudden he can turn water into wine and heal blind people.


LOL

i recon they just met a crazy man trying to make drinks with strange things
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DivineMoonBlossoms wrote:


Kikusui10 wrote:


DivineMoonBlossoms wrote:

@.@ Religion confuse me a book that's been changed like 200 times past down from 2013 years ago and more
any one ever played shards with like 13 people should try it whit like 6 billion people and see how the story changes

>scientifically proven facts i take this one
>Religion

am more interested in living for to day than some thing i don't no if its real or not got my own problems and praying to gods not going to fix it
lol


Maybe it started with a guy that accidently spilled wine into a lake, and helped someone remove dust from the eye. Now all of a sudden he can turn water into wine and heal blind people.


LOL

i recon they just met a crazy man trying to make drinks with strange things


No, actually they had a bunch of scribes working on it. Its not a book on actual accounts, but a book that teaches people how to live properly. It defines what is good and what is bad. It explains the natural odyssies of our world.
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SpicaFlynn wrote:

Happiness is heaven. Sadness is hell. That's what I believe since "the real heaven (like it's written on bible)" can be proven~


Okay, then prove it.
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I'm a Christian, and I believe that both Heaven and Hell exist. However I'm not sure that what Dr Alexander experienced would be proof. As everybody above me has been saying, our knowledge of the brain is limited. But as kinga750 says, if he found some value in his experience and seeks to be a better person because of it, that can only be a good thing.

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Kenshin_san wrote:

The bible clearly states you REST when you die. You rest until Jesus' return, and then he will ascend those who believe.

I honestly have no idea where people get the thought "You go to heaven when you die"


My understanding is the same as yours. For those who'd like the verses I Thessalonians 4: 13-18. God bless
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Irrelevant. I'm probably going to be stuck in Purgatory.
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schnipdip wrote:


SpicaFlynn wrote:

Happiness is heaven. Sadness is hell. That's what I believe since "the real heaven (like it's written on bible)" can be proven~


Okay, then prove it.


Gosh! Typo! I meant "can't" haha

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Bullshit tbh, its total speculative crap and not science. I hate when people go 'so theres this gap in knowledge we havent understood at all yet therfor it must mean X'. Stop being such an idiot, thats not how science works. Until you full understand that system you CANNOT MAKE ANY STATEMENTS ON ITS BEHAVIOR. So a system as poorly understood as the brain doing currently strange things when in extreme situations is not to be unexpected and doesnt mean anything beyond we dont understand it yet.
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SpicaFlynn wrote:

Happiness is heaven. Sadness is hell. That's what I believe since "the real heaven (like it's written on bible)" can't be proven~


true i agree

if i were christian my heaven would be sleeping on the lap of a giant jesus

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I believe all possibilities should be open, unless proven otherwise

anyone got proof in either or any direction?
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Heaven is nothing but a bad excuse to explain the unknown or calm thoose who fear death
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Sure, it's been repeatedly documented medically that there are experiences of life after death. Physicians have learned this from near-death experiences and from past-life regressions during hypnosis. But the thing is... unless you are Christian it will not appear as "heaven" but as something else. Neither side is "wrong" but it's not evidence for the Christian religion in particular...

It's also true that the majority of scientists have refused to accept this because they are narrow-minded, but that's not as important for this story. That this has been documented is a fact -- you can maybe argue that the scientists who did so are wrong, but not that they found no evidence. Unfortunately narrow-minded people will dismiss any evidence that does not fit their preconceived ideas.
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mipegg wrote:

Bullshit tbh, its total speculative crap and not science. I hate when people go 'so theres this gap in knowledge we havent understood at all yet therfor it must mean X'. Stop being such an idiot, thats not how science works. Until you full understand that system you CANNOT MAKE ANY STATEMENTS ON ITS BEHAVIOR. So a system as poorly understood as the brain doing currently strange things when in extreme situations is not to be unexpected and doesnt mean anything beyond we dont understand it yet.


This.

Plus, the neurology of dreams is really not unexplained, and coma dreams are still just dreams. While dreaming your neurons fire action potentials in similar patterns to how you used them during the day. They basically "revisit" recent memories and repeat those firing patterns, assisting long-term potentiation. This is why you are told to sleep well before you take an exam - because the act of dreaming after studying enables you to retrieve those memories more easily. But the problem with dreaming is that it's amorphous and disorganized. Some sequences repeat over and over again, and others not so much. What the dreamer experiences while dreaming may have no resemblance at all to what s/he experienced while awake.
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What this guy's experience sounds like is no different than someone in deep meditation. Then again I highly doubt he has ever looked up any topics on meditation, qigong, or kundalini practices. He is just ignorant and thinks some dream means he found heaven.
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