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Barefoot Gen - The aftermath of Hiroshima
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Posted 6/18/07
Wow... that was... uhm.... graphic....
I must say. I'm against unneccesary violence. However certain acts of war create the need for retailiation.
If the Japanese hadn't came over and bombed Pearl Harbor, the US might not have used the A-Bomb.
When the US used the A-Bomb, it was relatively new technology. The powers that be had only read reports on what it's level of destruction could be, and those were based off test results from much smaller levels being conducted in the desert.
And both bombs were sent at the same time.
I can't really say much however, since I wasn't alive then, and only three people i know well were alive and old enough to remember those days.
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its pretty easy to discuss the past since it pretty much doesnt concern us, its just wtf if a nuke hits a city in todays times

would US be justified to use nukes in the middle east, to destroy a city to save a country?

if a middle eastern country sends a warning to the US like how US did in ww2, think we'd surrender even if warned ?
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Posted 6/18/07

mushroomjay wrote:


Deceptive_Cadence wrote:

I've only heard of this movie vaguely. Is it similar to Grave of the Fireflies?

I does sound really good though, putting facts aside as to the justification of dropping bombs, the aftermath of that situation sounds like the ingrediants to an excellent drama.


Grave of the Fireflies is based off of it.


I was going to comment about Grave of the Fireflies. That was such a sad story...

With regard to the bombings during that time... it may have helped turn the war, but even so, it was quite inhuman to do so. Even some journal entries of the soldiers who took part in the bombing write their grief and sentiments on the event. I'll look for those accounts. It was shared to me by a friend in a book... I have yet to find it.
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no one wins in war
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People in the military think much, MUCH differently than civilians during war time.
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Kroni wrote:

People in the military think much, MUCH differently than civilians during war time.


yea the whole personal gain, false justice part

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azrael910 wrote:

eh, i'll pass. i believe the bomb drops were necessary and japan was given ample warning and opportunity to surrender before anything happened. keep in mind, it took two atomic bomb drops to get japan to surrender, not one.

i'm sure the anime is done well and very touching, but i've noticed a trend attempting to demonize the bomb drops, as well as much of US-Japan side of WW2. this is creeping into american text books as well.

this really wouldn't be such a big deal to me if it weren't for japan's reluctance (and even refusal at times) to own up to war atrocities they committed during WW2. yes, the US did many innapropriate things but no modern effort is being made to conceal them.

i certainly think the necessity of dropping the bombs should be up for debate and study, as well as understanding the full human toll of the actions. but given japan's record of WW2 history innaccuracy and misinformation, i'd prefer not to endorse it in any way.

while even though this anime is probably quite factual, it still plays into japan victimizing itself during it's involvement during WW2. the clip showed cute children, family and animals being vaporized while the harsh looking american's dropped the bomb.


Fuck off, seriously. What's there to demonize about dropping an atom bomb? You're lucky I need to keep this pg-13, otherwise I'd let you see for yourself if a demon would mutilate masses of humans in an instant like that.







"In the Record of the Nagasaki A-bomb War Disaster, the situation in Matsuyama township is described as follows:

"A huge fireball formed in the sky. Directly beneath it is Matsuyama township. Together with the flash came the heat rays and blast, which instantly destroyed everything on earth, and those in the area fell unconscious and were crushed to death. Then they were blown up in the air and hurled back to the ground. The roaring flames burned those caught under the structures who were crying or groaning for help.

When the fire burnt itself out, there appeared a completely changed, vast, colorless world that made you think it was the end of life on earth. In a heap of ashes lay the debris of the disaster and charred trees, presenting a gruesome scene. The whole city became extinct. Citizens who were in Matsuyama township, the hypocenter, were all killed instantly, excepting a child who was in an air-raid shelter." "

Source: http://www.gensuikin.org/english/photo.html

It was the first google result, but I think I might be wasting my time here.
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My teacher was going on about how it showed Japan in a good spirit. In comparison to grave of the fireflies, Barefoot Gen showed people who work together to get through the hardship, a family who opposed the war, Japanese taking the surviving role instead of that of the suffering and an overall spirit that ensured the Japanese people to overcome. This was showed by the main character surviving and his hair growing back. Although this is interesting, I personally think the movie is made to shock and they have ideas that I don't approve, like the concept of women being psychologically weaker than men (mother goes mad and son has to take care of her). It is however really interesting, especially if you consider he fact that the manga has been used as a history book in Japanese schools.
If you're interested in the topic, you should watch 'Grave of the fireflies', it's interesting comparison in how the Japanese del with a war.
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My History teacher in middle school let me bring this in for class. Everyone had to sign releases. I haven't really watched it since. Maybe I'll dig out the old vhs.
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