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I wanted to point out something about these forums that really bothers me. Which is, pretty much every thread that begins with the words "Why do girls..." or similar, even the "possessive guys" threads. I feel threads like these unintentionally sexist in an underlying way. It promotes a sort of "us and them" segregation that is rather unfair, especially when the thread is demeaning in character.

Especially since there seems to be people here with little experience with the opposite sex. If you say things like "girls always ____! Why?!" it reinforces a concept that women and men are two separate species and always act in a specific way, but in reality everyone is different. You shouldn't rely on preconceptions of people before you even know anything about them.

Am I alone in thinking this promotes sexism?

(Also, sorry if I didn't quite articulate this in the best way... I am pretty sleep deprived.)
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I agree, but I do not believe I would say "sexism" or "two separate species", but it definitely is segregation, however unintentional it may be.
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Though, admittedly the content of the threads do help to subvert the idea that all guys/girls act like the way they are portrayed.

Also, as an example it would be similar to saying "Why do all gun owners shoot innocent people?"
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Posted 10/10/12
Finally a "why do girls ____" forum topic that seems unrelated to sex!
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LOL

Kinda like this song.

"Why do girls suddenly appear
Every time boys are near?
Just like a mushroom,
they long to be noticed
Why do boys fall down from the sky
Every time a sexy walk by?" xD
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when it comes to stereotypes about the two sexes, which i remind you are very very different down to brain chemistry, i'd say roughly (very roughly) 80% are true with an exception rate of about 20%. the thing is men and women do not experience life the same. i realize the each individuals perspective is unique. but i will never know what its like to be a female just like i will never know what its like to be black. but i know what its like to be male and can relate to any other male on that level. even if we disagree on all possible subjects we both understand what its like to be kicked in the nuts.
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antisoul wrote:

when it comes to stereotypes about the two sexes, which i remind you are very very different down to brain chemistry, i'd say roughly (very roughly) 80% are true with an exception rate of about 20%. the thing is men and women do not experience life the same. i realize the each individuals perspective is unique. but i will never know what its like to be a female just like i will never know what its like to be black. but i know what its like to be male and can relate to any other male on that level. even if we disagree on all possible subjects we both understand what its like to be kicked in the nuts.


Of course our bodies and hormones are very different, but in no way is it similar to being of another race. Also, your statistics are based on nothing but your random guess with no real facts backing it... But what I was really talking about are personality characteristics, not physical differences.
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i was talking about perspective and the factors that go into forming it. as in experiences and yes even hormones. and you are right my statistics are based on nothing but personal experience and opinion i thought that was obvious.
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Well shit, you've nailed it right there. There often even seems to be some sort of "boys vs girls" thing going on, aswell. Ha, that's brilliant. Well spotted. I do love a good laugh at socially awkward people.

*trips over*
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Ah but those thread gives to some degree, insight to the workings of males/females.

Ah, how I love socially awkward people, they're so cute.
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it can be just out of curiosity wanting to know how make and female are alike or how different they are

I don't know if it should be called as being sexist but more often than not the responses posted either downgrade one gender over the other.
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Nah I really don't see it that way. If we're honest with ourselves will admit that 90% of the proposed stereotypes are true. Yeah yeah there are always those exceptions but for the most part they are true. However thanks to our modern sensibilities insisting on being "politically correct" stereotypes are looked upon as something horrible.

Another thing I hate to point out but men and women ARE very very different and call me anti feminist or what have you but the sexes aren't equal because you can't compare the two. It's like trying to say lawn chairs are better than coffee mugs. Personally I like these stereotypical post because they give people the opportunity to explore and embrace the differences between the two sexes
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crazyfirefly wrote:

Nah I really don't see it that way. If we're honest with ourselves will admit that 90% of the proposed stereotypes are true. Yeah yeah there are always those exceptions but for the most part they are true. However thanks to our modern sensibilities insisting on being "politically correct" stereotypes are looked upon as something horrible.



I completely disagree. You say that 90% of stereotypes are true, yet you admit that there are exceptions. You realize what a stereotype is, right? A stereotype is an absolute. It's saying that all black people can't swim, or that all Asians are smart. The very fact that there are exceptions proves that the stereotype is wrong.

You make it sound like this is a black-and-white kind of deal when it's not. Gender and sex are a spectrum. There is no "women are this way" and "men are another". You are what you are. There are plenty of people who identify as a different gender than their sex (transgender) or vice versa. There are people who identify as neither gender or both of them (gender queers). Moreover, what about the thousands of people who don't fit the mold as far as their sexual preferences? Not all men are straight, nor are all woman. There are gays, lesbians, bisexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, and a smattering of preferences in between.

And then there are the people who just plain don't fit the mold, even if they identify as their own sex and are straight. There are the cross-dressers, the tomboys, the feminine guys, the just plain "weirdos" who aren't like "most people" for whatever reason (interests, etc).

This isn't some miniscule percentage of people. They aren't some little fluke in the system. They make up a sizable amount of the population. To discount them as exceptions is incredibly ignorant and foolish, in my opinion.
Posted 10/10/12

MewMewcherry01 wrote:


crazyfirefly wrote:

Nah I really don't see it that way. If we're honest with ourselves will admit that 90% of the proposed stereotypes are true. Yeah yeah there are always those exceptions but for the most part they are true. However thanks to our modern sensibilities insisting on being "politically correct" stereotypes are looked upon as something horrible.



I completely disagree. You say that 90% of stereotypes are true, yet you admit that there are exceptions. You realize what a stereotype is, right? A stereotype is an absolute. It's saying that all black people can't swim, or that all Asians are smart. The very fact that there are exceptions proves that the stereotype is wrong.

You make it sound like this is a black-and-white kind of deal when it's not. Gender and sex are a spectrum. There is no "women are this way" and "men are another". You are what you are. There are plenty of people who identify as a different gender than their sex (transgender) or vice versa. There are people who identify as neither gender or both of them (gender queers). Moreover, what about the thousands of people who don't fit the mold as far as their sexual preferences? Not all men are straight, nor are all woman. There are gays, lesbians, bisexuals, pansexuals, asexuals, and a smattering of preferences in between.

And then there are the people who just plain don't fit the mold, even if they identify as their own sex and are straight. There are the cross-dressers, the tomboys, the feminine guys, the just plain "weirdos" who aren't like "most people" for whatever reason (interests, etc).

This isn't some miniscule percentage of people. They aren't some little fluke in the system. They make up a sizable amount of the population. To discount them as exceptions is incredibly ignorant and foolish, in my opinion.


*applauds* WELL SAID!

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Posted 10/10/12
idk i just wish every one could just get along
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