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Should we create and enforce restrictions on re-production?
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Posted 10/24/12

Syndicaidramon wrote:

Overpopulation is a problem in the world today.
Even in countries that aren't concidered as overpopulated per se, still often struggle with being able to meet the demands of all its citizens.

Should we, to reverse this problem, create restrictions when it comes to re-production?
One way could be like they have in China, namely set a restriction for how many children each family can get.
OR, we could just potentially stop it altogether for a certain period of time.
For instance by collecting semen from all males, freezing it for potential future use, and then castrate them to make sure they don't reproduce without concent.

These are just two options that comes to mind on the fly.
Is this concept a good idea? Should we enforce harsh restrictions of re-production? And if not, then why?


The only "problem" with overpopulation is that the larger a population is, the harder it is to control. Earth can support a population so much larger than one it has that it isn't even worth thinking about. The overpopulation issue is a fake issue, manufactured to place limitations on the populations freedom.
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Posted 10/25/12

justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

Once you restrict reproduction things will change to where only the wealthy or people in power will be allowed to reproduce and things will start to get manipulated even more. Matching only good looking or smart people up with each other. Then before you know it everyone else will be slaves to the "superior" humans and only be allowed to reproduce enough to keep the slave supply strong.


If we treat it sloppily, sure.
But if we keep the system tight, with a common goal of just decreasing the overpopulation, I don't think that would happen.
In either case, there is also the concept of designer-babies...



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The only "problem" with overpopulation is that the larger a population is, the harder it is to control. Earth can support a population so much larger than one it has that it isn't even worth thinking about. The overpopulation issue is a fake issue, manufactured to place limitations on the populations freedom.


How does the issue place limitations of our freedom today?
And sure, the earth might be able to handle it... but are we as a species able to handle it?
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Posted 10/25/12
There's a relatively easy fix and it has one word.



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Posted 10/25/12

Syndicaidramon wrote:


justanotherguy_2005 wrote:

Once you restrict reproduction things will change to where only the wealthy or people in power will be allowed to reproduce and things will start to get manipulated even more. Matching only good looking or smart people up with each other. Then before you know it everyone else will be slaves to the "superior" humans and only be allowed to reproduce enough to keep the slave supply strong.


If we treat it sloppily, sure.
But if we keep the system tight, with a common goal of just decreasing the overpopulation, I don't think that would happen.
In either case, there is also the concept of designer-babies...


Unfortunately there are no systems that are solid enough to prevent manipulation of any kind. Too many people will see it as an opportunity to gain more power and influence. Even on a global scale there will be issues when it comes to wars. Even if every country agrees to cut off reproduction capabilities there will always be at the very least one country who continues it in secret so that they will be able to conquer whatever country/countries they have a problem with just by sheer numbers.
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Posted 10/25/12
Instead of restricting reproduction, people should promote adoption...

A family with only one child is very lonesome for the child.
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Posted 10/26/12

GayAsianBoy wrote:
A family with only one child is very lonesome for the child.


CAN be.
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Posted 10/29/12
Maybe refuse aid to low income families. Low income families shouldn't have babies in the first place and refusing aid might scare them into not having any. Also, maybe promoting male birth control drugs could help with unwanted pregnancies. What do you guys think?
Posted 10/30/12
As an example, China did this. Then you look at Japan trying to encourage people to have more children. Severe overpopulation is sucking resources dry, so we are headed in a pretty ugly direction. It's not more people that makes humanity better, it's the quality of people, and too many have proven how insidious they are, though no one is perfect.
Posted 10/31/12
Why should we restrict reproduction?

Having a big population has this very important resource, LABORERS... Without the field workers, who will do the job? Will the company be still functioning without people who's doing the hands-on jobs?

For example, a mining company will not be able to drill a mining site if they only have 1 worker on that area..
Even if that 1 worker is a brilliant multitasking person.It will only make mining production slow with all the machinery he's working on..
Same in the education field.. If there is only one teacher who handles 5 subjects, that will be difficult to handle and may have many complications.. If there are 5 teachers in all of that 5 subjects, the job will make it easier and less complication..
A lot of business people will increase the economy of one country and makes it more profitable.. More companies established, more job openings to offer to the nation.. For me that's the biggest advantage of a country with a large population like China.

Of course, the country's population should be controlled at the same time but if only there is proper education, I guess this will not be the case.
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bobsamurai wrote:

there are too many people in the world so it wouldn't hurt. i think they should make it so that one must have a certain level of intelligence to breed.


That's sort of like Hitler's Ayran race theory look where that got us in world war 2.....
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Posted 10/31/12

Hintkin wrote:

Why should we restrict reproduction?

Having a big population has this very important resource, LABORERS... Without the field workers, who will do the job? Will the company be still functioning without people who's doing the hands-on jobs?

For example, a mining company will not be able to drill a mining site if they only have 1 worker on that area..
Even if that 1 worker is a brilliant multitasking person.It will only make mining production slow with all the machinery he's working on..
Same in the education field.. If there is only one teacher who handles 5 subjects, that will be difficult to handle and may have many complications.. If there are 5 teachers in all of that 5 subjects, the job will make it easier and less complication..
A lot of business people will increase the economy of one country and makes it more profitable.. More companies established, more job openings to offer to the nation.. For me that's the biggest advantage of a country with a large population like China.

Of course, the country's population should be controlled at the same time but if only there is proper education, I guess this will not be the case.


In the near future, there will be enough technological advances where it will be cheaper to use machinery for any job you can think of, thereby eliminating the need for the majority of the population with an unnecessary skill-set.
Posted 10/31/12

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Hintkin wrote:

Why should we restrict reproduction?

Having a big population has this very important resource, LABORERS... Without the field workers, who will do the job? Will the company be still functioning without people who's doing the hands-on jobs?

For example, a mining company will not be able to drill a mining site if they only have 1 worker on that area..
Even if that 1 worker is a brilliant multitasking person.It will only make mining production slow with all the machinery he's working on..
Same in the education field.. If there is only one teacher who handles 5 subjects, that will be difficult to handle and may have many complications.. If there are 5 teachers in all of that 5 subjects, the job will make it easier and less complication..
A lot of business people will increase the economy of one country and makes it more profitable.. More companies established, more job openings to offer to the nation.. For me that's the biggest advantage of a country with a large population like China.

Of course, the country's population should be controlled at the same time but if only there is proper education, I guess this will not be the case.


In the near future, there will be enough technological advances where it will be cheaper to use machinery for any job you can think of, thereby eliminating the need for the majority of the population with an unnecessary skill-set.


Yeah but in order to have that in the future, you're still going to need people who should work with those machines..
You're going to need investors, scientists,engineers and technicians to do the job..
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Posted 10/31/12

Hintkin wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


Hintkin wrote:

Why should we restrict reproduction?

Having a big population has this very important resource, LABORERS... Without the field workers, who will do the job? Will the company be still functioning without people who's doing the hands-on jobs?

For example, a mining company will not be able to drill a mining site if they only have 1 worker on that area..
Even if that 1 worker is a brilliant multitasking person.It will only make mining production slow with all the machinery he's working on..
Same in the education field.. If there is only one teacher who handles 5 subjects, that will be difficult to handle and may have many complications.. If there are 5 teachers in all of that 5 subjects, the job will make it easier and less complication..
A lot of business people will increase the economy of one country and makes it more profitable.. More companies established, more job openings to offer to the nation.. For me that's the biggest advantage of a country with a large population like China.

Of course, the country's population should be controlled at the same time but if only there is proper education, I guess this will not be the case.


In the near future, there will be enough technological advances where it will be cheaper to use machinery for any job you can think of, thereby eliminating the need for the majority of the population with an unnecessary skill-set.


Yeah but in order to have that in the future, you're still going to need people who should work with those machines..
You're going to need investors, scientists,engineers and technicians to do the job..


Yeah that's why skilled apprentices are in need.
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Posted 10/31/12
Take off the warning labels and let stupidity sort itself out.
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Posted 10/31/12
Harsh restrictions and oppressive methods would only act as temporary measures and would be quite difficult to enforce worldwide. Most likely there would be conflicts leading to wars and rise in criminal activities such as illegal births, infanticide, human trafficking and much more. People in general don't like to have anything they view as a freedom or a right forcibly taken away, so it's likely many would resist and eventually such restrictions would be overturned.
In my opinion change that is long lasting has to come gradually and it doesn't happen by force. It happens through learning, development, awareness and new ways of thinking. We still live in a society where the majority will look at you as though you have mental health issues if you say you choose not to have children (especially if you're a woman) and your worth as a human being seems to diminish if you're unable to have children. As long as the majority continue to think this way then not much will change.
I think improved education, available and reliable contraceptives and better job opportunities as well as equal rights for women are what's most needed at this time.

I personally don't worry too much about overpopulation because we don't yet live in a peaceful and stable world and humans are still destructive and mortal. Nothing wrong with giving new life a chance since in less than a hundred years most of us will be gone anyway and overpopulation doesn't seem as bad compared to the many other ways we could screw up and cause disasters that are likely to dramatically reduce population. We are healthier and living longer but that's just for now.
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