Is Adapted anime a first person source
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This is mainly partaining to manga-to-anime.I think I already know the answer. But I want to put this behind me once and for all.

Like say Naruto.I was on the Pein vs Naruto episode and noticed some changes(hilarious changes at that). Other ex. of Naruto would be fillers.If I wanted a full grasp of Naruto.Would I HAVE to watch all the fillers that came in-between an arc that happened in the manga?Or am I ok just reading the manga.By the way Naruto is not my favorite.But it's more popular and it's an anime I see lots of fillers from.

My other questions are:Does a manga artist/author have control over the anime adaptation that is being made?

Why are fillers created?

Should a movie based on the manga and story-boarded/written by the creator(original author/artist) be considereed cannon(I personally think yes)?

Should one or the other be considered first-person,or more viable?

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yes kind of
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No you don't have to watch the fillers, they have nothing to do with the main plot, and after they are finished they are never brought up again. I always skip fillers.
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Posted 10/16/12 , edited 10/16/12

Domayv wrote:

yes kind of





Zatheko wrote:

No you don't have to watch the fillers, they have nothing to do with the main plot, and after they are finished they are never brought up again. I always skip fillers.


Thanks.I'll just continue with the manga. My friends argue with each other that anime is the true first person source. Reasoning I automatically doubt them is because how would a book like Naruto or Bleach come out before it's anime?I personally think that the anime adaptations are just the animated retelling of the material that pased in manga.Idk
One day a friend thought Kakashi Gaiden was exclusive to anime.But did not want to beleive me when I said that Kakashi Gaiden was a book before it was shown in Shippuden.
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Some anime does come before manga but rarely. Its much more profitable for studios to pick up manga and light novels to adapt. A lot of publishers these days have their own in-house animation studios or have license agreements with other publishers to adapt manga and light novels
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To answer all your questions:

My other questions are:Does a manga artist/author have control over the anime adaptation that is being made?
I don't know, but I think usually no. Someone more famous or popular probably has more control than a regular mangaka, but on the whole I think no.

Why are fillers created?
It has to do with how Japanese TV works. In the US (and I think many/most other countries), the TV schedule is broken up into 'seasons' of several weeks with a couple weeks of down-time in between, during which no content is created (this when reruns are aired). In Japan, on the other hand, television airs continuously without breaks between seasons.

Now, manga is generally released weekly, but one chapter of manga is much smaller than one episode. Depending on the length of the chapter and the amount of content in it, one chapter probably contains half to a quarter as much material as one episode. So in four weeks (one month) only enough content for between maybe one and three episodes has been produced. So the only option for the anime producers is to fill time until the mangaka has produced enough new material.

Should a movie based on the manga and story-boarded/written by the creator(original author/artist) be considereed cannon(I personally think yes)?
If it was created by the original creator, then of course it's canon. Filler probably should not be considered canon, or at least a "lower level" of canon (yes, there is such a thing). Same with movies.

Should one or the other be considered first-person,or more viable?
You don't seem to know what "first-person" means. But the original work, whatever it may be, is the one truer to the creator's vision, and so is more "correct".
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Thrazonn wrote:

To answer all your questions:

My other questions are:Does a manga artist/author have control over the anime adaptation that is being made?
I don't know, but I think usually no. Someone more famous or popular probably has more control than a regular mangaka, but on the whole I think no.

Why are fillers created?
It has to do with how Japanese TV works. In the US (and I think many/most other countries), the TV schedule is broken up into 'seasons' of several weeks with a couple weeks of down-time in between, during which no content is created (this when reruns are aired). In Japan, on the other hand, television airs continuously without breaks between seasons.

Now, manga is generally released weekly, but one chapter of manga is much smaller than one episode. Depending on the length of the chapter and the amount of content in it, one chapter probably contains half to a quarter as much material as one episode. So in four weeks (one month) only enough content for between maybe one and three episodes has been produced. So the only option for the anime producers is to fill time until the mangaka has produced enough new material.

Should a movie based on the manga and story-boarded/written by the creator(original author/artist) be considereed cannon(I personally think yes)?
If it was created by the original creator, then of course it's canon. Filler probably should not be considered canon, or at least a "lower level" of canon (yes, there is such a thing). Same with movies.

Should one or the other be considered first-person,or more viable?
You don't seem to know what "first-person" means. But the original work, whatever it may be, is the one truer to the creator's vision, and so is more "correct".


Thank you. I was confused of whether Ishould of used the term first-person also.. So sorry for miss-use.Word thrown around lots by my friends when arguing.

But yes, thank you lots for your more descriptive answer.
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I'll try not to really repeat anything since there was a great answer given, but I do have another perspective to offer up... specifically regarding fillers... One good comparative example would be Bleach vs. One Piece vs. Gintama...

Bleach had filler arcs, multiple episodes making a story, which aren't in the manga so the anime doesn't catch up the anime.
One Piece has some filler episodes here and there but mainly it seems they stretch each episode to eat up as few manga chapters as possible.
Gintama goes away after running for awhile and then returns to television to avoid fillers... at least with the first break Gintama took it was because of lack of source material, manga, iirc.

Bleach has now also gone away for what probably will be quite some time... I'm guessing to give the manga a chance to finish or get far enough ahead that they know they won't run into a situation where they need fillers, or something along those lines I'd figure.

Lastly on watching the filler episodes... when I watched bleach i skipped pretty much 100% of the fillers... I'd go back and watch the last ep of the filler or maybe the first episode where it was getting back to the main story, and usually there was a pretty good re-cap given as to what happened and if any changes were added to the main story from the fillers. There was at least one situation in Bleach where characters from the fillers were added to the main story in the anime... although they were fairly minor.
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Everyone's pretty much covered what I wanted to say, but I just wanted to add to Thrazonn's post about the canon question. I personally think that anything, whether it's the adaption or original work or a movie, can be counted as canon, but when two ideas conflict- the original work by the creator would prevail over the other fillers/moves/adaptions
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