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Post Reply Your opinions on Islam and Muslims in General?
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Posted 12/31/12

longfenglim wrote:


Syndicaidramon wrote:

There are few, if any religions at all that I hate more than Islam.
I despise it.


The question is why do you hate Islam so much?



Number of reasons.
For one, you have the various situations in several muslim countries, where the laws are based offof the Islamic beliefs.
There is the fact that it causes a lot of conflict, and I don't think there will ever be peace in themiddle east as long as it is around (or at least it will take way longer).

Then there's the standard religuos stuff, like its teachings of violence towards others and its outdated beliefs about humans.
And the fact that it slows down the collective progress of mankind. Which irritates me to no end.

Oh, and it also condones sex with children.
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I honestly think that they are people just like the rest of mankind. Riots and other things like that are the choices of few no matter what nationality or faith they come from. Its wrong to penalize a whole race or faith for the choices of set few. I just think they are people too, plain and simple.
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I have nothing against the Islamic people, except the religion has a tendency to make it followers try to shovel their religion down your throat and others. Islam is built like a political movement, ever searching for power.

And i can say this, since i've lived 12 years in a area where 70% Muslims; they are really shoveling a lot of religious stuff around, i fear there will be a major conflict when Muslims (those who are super active and really forward) have the balls to try something big.
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Religion is a factor of cultural development, culture is a factor of economic situation.

For instance, developed wealthy nations have vast amounts of atheists because religion becomes less important in lands of abundant resources. For example in Japan non religious people far outnumber religious ones.

However, Muslim nations usually are under developed and without social security nets. Their culture is guided by fear of loss and just like every other cult in existence like Christianity or Buddhism - Islam gains power by feeding on the misfortune of the many. Do not blame the core name of the belief they claim to follow as the problem. Blame local cultures of impoverished and war gripped nations.
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I seriously think the hallal meat "fabrication" is a TOTAL disrespect for animals soul emotion and feelling, beside of cutting the head in 1 shot, they slay the throath so the animal is living is death for 10 minute and the animals vomit in is pulmunary system before dying and this is what a single animal feel for the creation santictified hallal meat, WOW how can it be ever sanctified it a aniaml you kill it emotyion of pain distress fear degust, and tehy said it santictified hallal meat, what is more frutating is that legal in my contry (canada) and most every civilized contry that exists !

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I'm a atheist and I think religion needs to stay in people's private lives where it belongs. As long it is out of politics and you don't shove it down people's throats(UK Muslims trying to enforce shariah law, husbands forcing their wives to wear the burka) I could care less if you're muslim.

As a athiest I think you all know what my worldview is on religion in general is.I find it irrational.But I do believe in freedom for religion and think the burka ban in France for example is wrong.
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Posted 2/15/13
I think there are good and bad in all religions, countries, and peoples. IMO to generalize is ignorance.

What really bothers me though is Christians coming to my door, despite having a note on my door saying no religious peddlers, trying to convert me, I just despise that. It's not like I go to their door and try to convert them shish
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Posted 2/23/13 , edited 2/23/13
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various situations in several muslim countries - What situations and what countries?

laws are based offof the Islamic beliefs - What laws and what beliefs? Where?

it causes a lot of conflict, and I don't think there will ever be peace in themiddle east as long as it is around - What? As long as what is around? What causes conflict? What conflict?

like its teachings of violence towards others and its outdated beliefs about humans. - Examples? How do you measure "outdated"? What outdated beliefs?

it slows down the collective progress of mankind- Collective progress of mankind?? Hahah, you really believe in that?

it also condones sex with children- Where?

If you are going to hate something with such conviction and force, shouldn't you have reasonable and specific arguments? All you provided was vague generalizations about Islam that could have come straight out of a FOX news segment. Also, please learn to differentiate between the influences culture, politics, history, religion and philosophy have contributed to conflicts in the middle east rather than attributing it all to Islam.
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I've met all sorts of people from many different religions. Some were very open minded, some - naturally - not so much.
It always depends on the person, not the religion. Very generally speaking, I see religion as the root of most of the evil in the world. We'd be better off without.
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I have many people in my school that kind of ruin the reputation of Islam, BUT I still think of them in a nice way because everyone is equal and we all have the same functioning in our body, we can all think alike if we chose to.
Religion doesn't matter, you can believe what you want to.
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I have some friends that are Muslims some of my true friends ^^ they are very honest and kind!
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Examples [of teachings of violence]? The historical context of these verses endorse offensive violence against the 'non-believers' until they acknowledge religion is for Allah, that being said...

"And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah" (Qu'ran, 2:191-193).

"Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not" (Qu'ran, 2:216).

'Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah." Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have." (Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:8:387, see also Sahih al-Bukhari, 1:2:25)

What laws and what beliefs? Where? The actions and words of Muhammad, sanctioned by Allah, are held to be immutable, and his teachings to be inviolable. That being said... check out Sharia Law, adopted and implemented by many Islamic nations- I'm sure those are the laws he was speaking of. Continued below...

What outdated beliefs? Religious censorship and theocracy (The Satanic Verses, Sharia Law), polygamy (Bukhari, 5:268), antisemitism (Bukhari, 4:52:177), entrenches inequality (Bukhari, 1:6:301)... to name a few.

Where [does it condone sex with children]? To name a few instances, the consummation of Aisha, 9 year-old girl, and Muhammad- Bukhari (58:234), Muhammad bathing with and fondling his child wife, Aisha- Bukhari (6:298), etc. Evidently, Muhammad, the perfect man, actions and words sanctioned by Allah, the one true god... molested and had sex with a 9-year-old child. Muslim (8:3460)- [Muhammad] asks, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?". Needless to say, Muhammad, the perfect man, condoned sex with children.
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Posted 3/5/13

What are your impressions on Muslims?
Did those impressions come through media or actual research?
What do you know about Islam?
What do you know about the connection of Islam with Christianity and Judaism?


I have no impressions of islam or muslims one way or the other. just like every other religion it has it's extreamists who use it as an excuse for their own personal ideas, and those who don't.

actual research, the media tends to be bias towards the political goals of whoever is in charge at the time.

more than most people I know (including a few muslims) I guess you could call me a schollar of faith. I've studied religions from all around the world abrahamic beliefs, celtic, native american, shino-japanese, aboriginal and more.

short answer islam evolved from christianity in the same way christianity evolved from judaism which evolved from cannaite religions.

personally there are many things I don't agree with in islam which many of it's detractors use as excuses to bash it, but those detractors also fail to realise those same things appear in the christian bible and the jewish torah, the reason that we don't hear about them in those religions is because just like many modern muslims they are moving beyond that. people complain that islam opresses women, that it condones rape and murder.... so does the bible, but what people fail to realise is that modern muslims are pushing past that with many muslim countries giving equal rights to women. yet you'd never hear these same detractors speaking out against mormons despite the fact that it wasn't that long ago that a mormon commune was found to be treating it's women as little more than slaves, where young girls were forced to marry men 3-4 times their age and the mormon texts state that women should only make dinner and pop out babies and have no education and anyone who doesn't have pure white skin is sinful yet you'll rarely hear anyone making a noise about them simply because they're a christian orginisation.

**for the reccord I have nothing against the vast majority of mormons just the small number who use their belief as an excuse for such behaviour**

to quote farscape "religions are grand lofty ideals, religious people however....."

I have nothing against any religion what I do have a problem with however is people who use their beliefs as an excuse to stoke their own ego or to deny others their fundemental rights.
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Posted 3/5/13
Found this in Quran 2:62 Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.

I cannot judge a person based on skin pigmentation , religion, region, sexual orientation , or gender. IMO generalizations are dangerous.
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Nice one mate it says some 90% similar in the quran or did u find the verse?
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Posted 3/5/13 , edited 3/5/13

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I cannot judge a person based on skin pigmentation , religion, region, sexual orientation , or gender. IMO generalizations are dangerous.


You can't judge individuals based on their religion.
But you CAN judge the religion itself.






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with many muslim countries giving equal rights to women.

yet you'd never hear these same detractors speaking out against mormons.


What "many muslim countries" are those?

And yes, you won't hear those same detractors speaking out against mormonism.
You WILL however hear detractors from mormonism speak out against mormonism.

And it's not like you never hear criticism against christianity. Criticism against christianity is everywhere.
It's just that it doesn't become as big of a deal because everyone knows christianity causes a lot of crap, and it's not a sensitive subject because everyone agrees with it.

What IS a sensitive subject is criticism against Islam, which many people see as "islamophobia". As if merely criticising a religion makes one a phobic. By that religion, there would be lots of "christiophobics" in the world as well.
Political correctness is bullcrap.
And is exactly why islam NEEDS to be criticised even more. To break down that wall and to make it okay to criticise it.
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