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Post Reply Your opinions on Islam and Muslims in General?
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Got nothing against Muslims or Islam, but I have a big problem with the people that use it as an excuse to harm others. This isn't exclusive to any one religion, but as far as I know, in todays "modern" society the only people mass-rioting, killing, destroying and committing suicide by bombing stem from the Islamic/Muslim religion/people. And as long as this is happening, even though it's a vast minority behind it, a lot of people will judge the entire religion based on their actions.

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1. What are my impressions of Islam?
I actually view Islam as a rather noble religion. Its followers seem very devout and spiritual. The media (and some people I know), tend to paint it as a "violent" religion, I've never really believed that since I've never personally encountered any violent Muslims. I think that people always tend to focus on the "bad" aspects of a religious following without taking the time to figure out what their doctrine truly means from an actual doctor of the faith (not that I know that much myself, but that's why I don't make too many judgments about it.

2. Did my impressions come through the media or actual research?
Neither, to be honest. Just my interactions with what few Muslims I have met. I try not to believe too much of what I hear from the media.

3. What do you know about Islam?
I know that it is a monotheistic religion that holds high respect (or possibly reveres) Mohammad as the (last?) prophet from God. Other than that, I only know tidbits here and there. I know that it also respects many of the Jewish prophets and kings, as well as Jesus. I don't know too much about Islam's views of them, though.

4. What do you know about Islam's connection with Christianity and Judaism?
Not much. I've always heard that it sprung from Christianity like Christianity sprung from Judaism. I know that it regards Jesus as a prophet, but doesn't ascribe him to deity. I also heard that it regards Christianity as polytheistic for its belief in the trinity. (I don't know if this is true or not, but i've also heard similar things about Judaism).

In my mind, faith in any God is better than faith in none. Christians and Muslims have their differences, and they are not completely compatible (only in that they can't BOTH be right). However, I truly feel that atheism should be more of a concern to Christians and Muslims than these religions themselves, but that's just me.
Posted 10/19/12
Muslims are fine.

Extremists need to die.

But then, extremists in anything need to die.
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What are your impressions on Muslims?
Besides a victim of the terrorist and extremist stereotype, nothing really.
Did those impressions come through media or actual research?
Yeah, mostly the media gives a one-side viewpoint of everyone.
What do you know about Islam?
Miniscule information, emphasis on miniscule.
What do you know about the connection of Islam with Christianity and Judaism?
Very little. I've heard there's similarities between Islam and Christianity, but I'm not too sure about Judaism.
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mystic17 wrote:

What do you know about the connection of Islam with Christianity and Judaism?
Very little. I've heard there's similarities between Islam and Christianity, but I'm not too sure about Judaism.


A. They all believe in the same God.

B. Muslims consider him to be the restorer of an uncorrupted original monotheistic faith of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and other prophets

C. (something I heard and not read) Muhammad traces his ancestry back to the old testament.

They consider Muhammad to be the last true prophet but in olden days Islam respected "People of the Book" meaning Christians and Jews.

Now you know and Knowledge is power!
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I think they are people, just like the rest of us. I never let a religion or political ideal effect my views on people, it's the individual thoughts that count.
Some are pro-gay.
Some want to kill gays.
Some are pro-coexisting.
Some want to kill the infidels.
Etc.
They're humans, just like the rest of us.
I refuse to judge an entire group of people as one. It's just not possible :|
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Muslims wouldn't get such a bad rep IF...they weren't blowing things up all the time....
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Nozferi wrote:

Got nothing against Muslims or Islam, but I have a big problem with the people that use it as an excuse to harm others. This isn't exclusive to any one religion, but as far as I know, in todays "modern" society the only people mass-rioting, killing, destroying and committing suicide by bombing stem from the Islamic/Muslim religion/people. And as long as this is happening, even though it's a vast minority behind it, a lot of people will judge the entire religion based on their actions.



This is probably where most people are coming from, myself included. Nobody likes those who hurt people & stuff.
Also a lot of people seemed to be coming from the "everyone is free to believe what they want to believe angle" and this may be a slight bit off-topic but, I have a few things to say on that. (and now, my 5-point rant, do not respond to this, as I will most likely not reply, sry

First off, yes that is correct, your mind is your own.

Second, that being the case (having your own mind/opinions) why get angry when confronted with opposing ideas? You believe what you believe based off of what you know of it and how reliable you think that information is. You aren't forced to believe anything just by hearing it. If anything, finding out more information is a good thing because your ability to make a good decision is improved.
(It's kind of like only watching democratic biased news, and then getting angry at someone who watches republican biased news for sharing what they learned. You don't know the full story unless you know both sides and some)

Third, Martin Luther King Jr. kind said it best that people should be judged by the content of their character. You cannot know a stranger before you meet them, so you will have to use some discretion. That means don't pre judge people, and at the same time use common sense.
(by common sense I mean, don't go to a kkk meeting as an african american. They MIGHT be very nice people normally, but because of what they believe, it wouldn't be a healthy situation to be in. Do you see the similarities? More information is needed to resolve false assumptions)

Fourth, unfortunately, a lot of people are lazy and don't care to look for information themselves. Because of this, many people stick to the first thing they hear about stubbornly without keeping an open mind. This does not mean to yield to any and everyone, but to actually listen and understand the others side. Try to prove THEIR point while looking for consistencies and inconsistencies. Be honest and don't try to cover up weak points with loopholes, and if there are holes in either argument, out them and research them.
(on another side note, religions/cults that tell you NOT to keep yourself informed are a no no in my opinion. They are basically saying "no, we can't hold up to par, so your not allowed to discover that we are not legit". If they are legit, and you can make a competent decision for them they should have nothing to hide.)

Fifth, respecting differing religions is one thing, but saying that you believe in one and then saying on the other hand that "everyone's religion is true for them" is stupid. Do you then actually believe what you just said you did? If you don't believe in anything become an athiest, if not and you do think God is out there (I do) study all different religions or whatever you need to do to be able to speak like you've got confidence and a real purpose behind what your saying. There is no point to arguing/defending something you in reality don't care about.
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1) The views/fears some people have about Muslims and the Islamic faith reminds me of the way people acted towards the German, Italian, and Japanese Americans during, and most likely (definitely), after WWII. Especially, the Japanese-Americans. People were even trying to justify the whole internment camp thing of WWII during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is very offending. These people were literally imprisoned without trial or investigating any further than checking their race from what I've learned.

The only people I have a problem with are the Taliban and extremist groups.

2) The media can paint things strongly, and there are many people who hold no level skepticism of what they hear from media outlets, and a few nutters who hold too much. For me: It's deja vu and a knowledge of history.

3) Very little. Too little to give a good opinion on it.

4) See three.
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1) The views/fears some people have about Muslims and the Islamic faith reminds me of the way people acted towards the German, Italian, and Japanese Americans during, and most likely (definitely), after WWII. Especially, the Japanese-Americans. People were even trying to justify the whole internment camp thing of WWII during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is very offending. These people were literally imprisoned without trial or investigating any further than checking their race from what I've learned.


Don't forget to mention, the severe Japanese War Crimes (Comfort Women, human experimentation, inhumane pow camps, Rape of Nanking, 'Kill 100 First contest', rape of men, women, children and babies, using swords or bamboo in the act of penetration during sex, disembodiment, burying people alive, forcing people to have sex with each other, gang rape, 100's raping one person in one day...etc, etc...)

Which of course, Japan downplays and even denies to this day. They even erase that from their history books. They only want to talk about the atomic bombs for example, yet they don't want to mention the horrendous things they did which are far worse, and killed far more innocent people in incredibly cruel and utterly inhumane ways.

This is why S. Korea and China (and other Asian countries) have a bone to pick with them.

I'm not downplaying what the other Axis or Allies did; every side did horrible things. But the Japanese were the absolute worst, and still remain proud of their "military achievement" during those times.

Disgusting.
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MopZ wrote:

1) The views/fears some people have about Muslims and the Islamic faith reminds me of the way people acted towards the German, Italian, and Japanese Americans during, and most likely (definitely), after WWII. Especially, the Japanese-Americans. People were even trying to justify the whole internment camp thing of WWII during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is very offending. These people were literally imprisoned without trial or investigating any further than checking their race from what I've learned.


Don't forget to mention, the severe Japanese War Crimes (Comfort Women, human experimentation, inhumane pow camps, Rape of Nanking, 'Kill 100 First contest', rape of men, women, children and babies, using swords or bamboo in the act of penetration during sex, disembodiment, burying people alive, forcing people to have sex with each other, gang rape, 100's raping one person in one day...etc, etc...)

Which of course, Japan downplays and even denies to this day. They even erase that from their history books. They only want to talk about the atomic bombs for example, yet they don't want to mention the horrendous things they did which are far worse, and killed far more innocent people in incredibly cruel and utterly inhumane ways.

This is why S. Korea and China (and other Asian countries) have a bone to pick with them.

I'm not downplaying what the other Axis or Allies did; every side did horrible things. But the Japanese were the absolute worst, and still remain proud of their "military achievement" during those times.

Disgusting.


There is no denying that, but I'm specifically talking about the interment camps that were used to house anyone decedent form those nations. I'm refering to first, second, and third generation immigrant families in the USA imprisoned for the crime of being born Italian, German, and Japanese without any right to trial. Very unconstitutional. I can understand he anger, but not the irrationality that leads people to take it out on the innocent.
Posted 10/19/12

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magicuser360 wrote:


MopZ wrote:

1) The views/fears some people have about Muslims and the Islamic faith reminds me of the way people acted towards the German, Italian, and Japanese Americans during, and most likely (definitely), after WWII. Especially, the Japanese-Americans. People were even trying to justify the whole internment camp thing of WWII during the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is very offending. These people were literally imprisoned without trial or investigating any further than checking their race from what I've learned.


Don't forget to mention, the severe Japanese War Crimes (Comfort Women, human experimentation, inhumane pow camps, Rape of Nanking, 'Kill 100 First contest', rape of men, women, children and babies, using swords or bamboo in the act of penetration during sex, disembodiment, burying people alive, forcing people to have sex with each other, gang rape, 100's raping one person in one day...etc, etc...)

Which of course, Japan downplays and even denies to this day. They even erase that from their history books. They only want to talk about the atomic bombs for example, yet they don't want to mention the horrendous things they did which are far worse, and killed far more innocent people in incredibly cruel and utterly inhumane ways.

This is why S. Korea and China (and other Asian countries) have a bone to pick with them.

I'm not downplaying what the other Axis or Allies did; every side did horrible things. But the Japanese were the absolute worst, and still remain proud of their "military achievement" during those times.

Disgusting.


There is no denying that, but I'm specifically talking about the interment camps that were used to house anyone decedent form those nations. I'm refering to first, second, and third generation immigrant families in the USA imprisoned for the crime of being born Italian, German, and Japanese without any right to trial. Very unconstitutional. I can understand he anger, but not the irrationality that leads people to take it out on the innocent.


Yes, what you said is true. The Japanese-Americans did get the worst end of the stick as they, unlike the other two, were not "white". So, their camps were in pretty bad condition, and they were treated like second class citizens, even more so than the others.
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I really don't care about the religion.. as long the person is nice and know the word RESPECT I don't have any reason to hate or say against them... besides it is not only Muslim who use violent or do something harsh to express their griefs, opinions and sentiments... it so happen that they are one of those that are proud and won't hide their identity, religion and race even though they do bad things and against the law of man and God...
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Hmmm Looks like most if not all of you people respect religion of any kind. I like that since I actually read your thoughts on it. Good to see some people have knowledge about their or other religions
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As long as they dont knock on my door at 6 am then we're good
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