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Oh my gosh Seriously! why the heck are none of these catalog versions available in the UK? Are they owned by Kaze or something? That's the only reason i can think of... Lucky i pay for Simulcasts and not catalog else i'd be very upset still what can you do, I'll just continue too wait for SAO now.
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manic221 wrote:

Oh my gosh Seriously! why the heck are none of these catalog versions available in the UK? Are they owned by Kaze or something? That's the only reason i can think of... Lucky i pay for Simulcasts and not catalog else i'd be very upset still what can you do, I'll just continue too wait for SAO now.


Broken Blade is by Sentai, the other four by NIS so North America only.
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manic221 wrote:

Oh my gosh Seriously! why the heck are none of these catalog versions available in the UK? Are they owned by Kaze or something? That's the only reason i can think of... Lucky i pay for Simulcasts and not catalog else i'd be very upset still what can you do, I'll just continue too wait for SAO now.


Broken Blade is by Sentai, the other four by NIS so North America only.


That doesn't make any sense it doesn't matter who owns them in the states this is about who owns them in Europe i imagine Kaze which is one of the biggest distributors in Europe and they already own a service similar too CR which is why we don't get their titles (like Magi in the UK)

Who owns it in the US isn't important to me.
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Guess this means no Little Busters or Setokai Ichzon season 2. Broken Blade is DAMN good, don't get me wrong, even has decent dubs (rare I know) but I can't help but feel disappointed. Still, CR picked up a lot of great titles this time around. Keep it up CR.
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That doesn't make any sense


Region blocking and licensing by region in case of online services don't make any sense at all. It's relict of the past which many copyright holders fanatically clings to, because they fear and can't adopt to recent times. They want to do business in identical way as they're doing 20 years ago, which is or rather should be impossible.

People who pretested agaist machines in XIX century also used the same words as copyrighters today. But unlike them, copyright holders are rich and have a lot influence, so many countries support them in preservation of this relict. In other cases free market should make them change or they will lose to competition , but because of support of politics, they have monopoly and access of new players are limited. They protected by selfmade law through lobbing and constant protection from a country, so laws of free market do not apply to them.

But as always when industry have state protection there is no competition and so there is no reason to improve or change. In reality this preservation cost a lot money and also result in losing new possibilities, new ways and also limiting access to culture. It's a price all people pay for a comfort of few old-thinking monopolist.

Do you ever wondered why most fansubs looks better then legal work? Let's not talk about if karaoke or nice font is needed. If you imagine that there are two DVD of your favourite anime. One from licensor X and other from Licensor Y. Both have the same price but the one from X have karaoke, 3 version of subtitles(so you can choose a font you like better), HD quality, signs translated on screen and not as *text*, with optionable translator notes which you can transfer to any other device. What to watch in not in dvd player but on your iPod? No problem. etc and other DVD from licensor Y which is simple DVD in 480p with one correct subtitles written as txt either white or yellow with no translated op and if you want to watch it in other device you have to buy second copy. Which one would you choose? It's simple, there is huge competition between fansub groups but there is not between licensors. Why would a legal licencor worry about quality when they have monopoly? Why would they improve? There is no reason because there is no competition. Whatever they do, you have to buy it from they or don't buy it at all.
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manic221
That doesn't make any sense


Region blocking and licensing by region in case of online services don't make any sense at all. It's relict of the past which many copyright holders fanatically clings to, because they fear and can't adopt to recent times. They want to do business in identical way as they're doing 20 years ago, which is or rather should be impossible.

People who pretested agaist machines in XIX century also used the same words as copyrighters today. But unlike them, copyright holders are rich and have a lot influence, so many countries support them in preservation of this relict. In other cases free market should make them change or they will lose to competition , but because of support of politics, they have monopoly and access of new players are limited. They protected by selfmade law through lobbing and constant protection from a country, so laws of free market do not apply to them.

But as always when industry have state protection there is no competition and so there is no reason to improve or change. In reality this preservation cost a lot money and also result in losing new possibilities, new ways and also limiting access to culture. It's a price all people pay for a comfort of few old-thinking monopolist.

Do you ever wondered why most fansubs looks better then legal work? Let's not talk about if karaoke or nice font is needed. If you imagine that there are two DVD of your favourite anime. One from licensor X and other from Licensor Y. Both have the same price but the one from X have karaoke, 3 version of subtitles(so you can choose a font you like better), HD quality, signs translated on screen and not as *text*, with optionable translator notes which you can transfer to any other device. What to watch in not in dvd player but on your iPod? No problem. etc and other DVD from licensor Y which is simple DVD in 480p with one correct subtitles written as txt either white or yellow with no translated op and if you want to watch it in other device you have to buy second copy. Which one would you choose? It's simple, there is huge competition between fansub groups but there is not between licensors. Why would a legal licencor worry about quality when they have monopoly? Why would they improve? There is no reason because there is no competition. Whatever they do, you have to buy it from they or don't buy it at all.


No sorry i understand all that what i meant was in regards too who own it in the states is irrelevant to me that doesn't change whether or not something can be shown in the UK, I assume someone owns it because if they didn't Crunchyroll could just pay a little more and become the distributor in the UK you see what i mean? That's all i was saying.

Whether Sentai or NIS own it is irrelevant too me it doesn't matter. What matters is who owns the rights here. So i know who to complain too for not licensing to CR (KAZE i understand)
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manic221 wrote:

Oh my gosh Seriously! why the heck are none of these catalog versions available in the UK? Are they owned by Kaze or something? That's the only reason i can think of... Lucky i pay for Simulcasts and not catalog else i'd be very upset still what can you do, I'll just continue too wait for SAO now.


Did a quick web search for you. In the UK, MVM has the rights to Broken Blade . To answer your other question, Sentai and NIS America used to only get the rights for the U.S and Canada(since they've started to cooperate with Crunchyroll, it's Major English Speaking Countries for simulcasts except where AnimeOnDemand carves out the U.K rights), and these catalog titles are from that era.
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manic221 wrote:

Oh my gosh Seriously! why the heck are none of these catalog versions available in the UK? Are they owned by Kaze or something? That's the only reason i can think of... Lucky i pay for Simulcasts and not catalog else i'd be very upset still what can you do, I'll just continue too wait for SAO now.


Did a quick web search for you. In the UK, MVM has the rights to Broken Blade . To answer your other question, Sentai and NIS America used to only get the rights for the U.S and Canada(since they've started to cooperate with Crunchyroll, it's Major English Speaking Countries for simulcasts except where AnimeOnDemand carves out the U.K rights), and these catalog titles are from that era.


Ah i see and thank you for googling that for me CR you need to chat with those guys! haha but i see i dunno whether AnimeOnDemand are going to last they aren't very reliable and so they've resorted too the free simulcast this season and they still aren't getting them up on time! Thankfully CR get the best anime rights anyway and whats left go to AOD and they are never all that great. I don't want AOD to fail but i have a bad feeling about there future. By the way i went on Amazon and you can get the Blu-Ray in the UK so that's cool i'll look into it some more and possible i might just get them Thanks for the help!
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Guess this means no Little Busters or Setokai Ichzon season 2. Broken Blade is DAMN good, don't get me wrong, even has decent dubs (rare I know) but I can't help but feel disappointed. Still, CR picked up a lot of great titles this time around. Keep it up CR.


Maybe we'll see them as future catalog titles but even latecasts are becoming unlikely I would say.
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haha but i see i dunno whether AnimeOnDemand are going to last they aren't very reliable and so they've resorted too the free simulcast this season and they still aren't getting them up on time! Thankfully CR get the best anime rights anyway and whats left go to AOD and they are never all that great. I don't want AOD to fail but i have a bad feeling about there future.

Anime on Demand seems to be maintaining a schedule with K and Magi. It is the titles they have in common with The Anime Network that they appear to have been unable to establish a schedule for.

I expect this could well be a make or break season for them. If they don't see a substantial rise in viewership (and therefore they hope, subscribers next season), I doubt they will even exist come this time next year.

Here in the U.S., NicoNico.com survived 3 seasons without revenue from anime, but aside from the backing of their parent company in Japan, they also shared two of those seasons with Funimation, which likely reduced their costs.

I like their approach this season, since with the possible exception of Magi they weren't competing to carve out the UK segment from Crunchyroll. (The remaining shows were exclusive to other companies in the U.S., meaning CR would not have had them even if AoD didn't). That reduces the cost to either party, as it eliminates bidding up the cost of the shows. Between the two, it also results in more titles for those in the UK.

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haha but i see i dunno whether AnimeOnDemand are going to last they aren't very reliable and so they've resorted too the free simulcast this season and they still aren't getting them up on time! Thankfully CR get the best anime rights anyway and whats left go to AOD and they are never all that great. I don't want AOD to fail but i have a bad feeling about there future.

Anime on Demand seems to be maintaining a schedule with K and Magi. It is the titles they have in common with The Anime Network that they appear to have been unable to establish a schedule for.

I expect this could well be a make or break season for them. If they don't see a substantial rise in viewership (and therefore they hope, subscribers next season), I doubt they will even exist come this time next year.

Here in the U.S., NicoNico.com survived 3 seasons without revenue from anime, but aside from the backing of their parent company in Japan, they also shared two of those seasons with Funimation, which likely reduced their costs.

I like their approach this season, since with the possible exception of Magi they weren't competing to carve out the UK segment from Crunchyroll. (The remaining shows were exclusive to other companies in the U.S., meaning CR would not have had them even if AoD didn't). That reduces the cost to either party, as it eliminates bidding up the cost of the shows. Between the two, it also results in more titles for those in the UK.



Yeah that makes sense. I agree i think this season for them is sink or swim.
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Broken Blade is made into parts...there are 4 parts. I watched this couple years ago its pretty good. Just wish they would have made more but meh...its good while it lasted.
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Nice. The fansubbing group I was watching this through stalled on it after the second movie so it'll be good to finally be able to see the rest. I've gotta wonder why so many of these catalog titles have been US and Canada only.
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I've gotta wonder why so many of these catalog titles have been US and Canada only.

It is because of where they come from: North American video distributors.

As I noted elsewhere, except for Kimi ni Todoke, all of the catalog titles announced this week had already been streaming (legally) on another U.S. website for some time now, so it is simply a case of the distributor expanding the number of outlets.

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definitely a series you should not miss! especially if you like mecha..
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