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Why does society frown upon this concept? Shouldn't people have the right to die?
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Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.
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Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.
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i think it's roots are in the religions prevalent in our culture that frown on that.
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Religion does play a big role in it, but we live in an age where there is religious freedom, so there shouldn't be any laws that have religious bias in them.
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lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.

There are just too many negatives for this to ever be a "right".
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netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.


^ This, err to an extent.
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Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


exactly. and if the theory of reincarnation is correct, (which seems most logical out of any to me) then i don't think life should be valued as much as it is. but then again, we don't know if that's true or not.
but there is some evidence. i mean, female praying manti kill their husbands for the hell of it after they impregnate them.
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netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.

There are just too many negatives for this to ever be a "right".


I do not agree with that...someone could be saine and wanting to die, I don't see the problem there.
We used to be like animal and have a survival instinct, now that we are smarter and with how society is nowadays survival instinct went away and we can do whatever we want...

People don't want you to die because humans are the most profitable ressource on Earth, less people means less money for them.
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netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.

There are just too many negatives for this to ever be a "right".


To say that it shouldn't be right because it harms people completely disregards the fact that cigarettes, alcohol, chewing tobacco, etc. etc. etc. are all legal. Heck, even weed is going to be legal in California soon, so that is a completely baseless arguement. There are plenty of other rights with nothing but negatives.

To say that suicidal tendencies are caused by a mental disorder is just a personal opinion. Just because you force some depression pills on somebody does not mean they are going to not feel suicidal anymore. There is only one person who knows if you can ever be happy, and that is yourself. If you feel that you will never be happy, then you should be allowed to die.

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Not to sound dull or against-the-reason, but I believe that every single life is ever so precious and has a purpose, even if it is for the smallest reason. However, I also believe that a person should be able to freely choose the time, place, and method of death, if it is to be premature, without prejudice or being judged but at the very least let it be for a great reason. Ultimately, whether or not you should have the right to freely choose that decision, should be left for the person wanting to end his/her life, but in exchange, that person should know the impact it would have on their loved ones and the people around and in their life, so as to persuade them to live for a better tomorrow or even live for another person that they hold dear.
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Because most people live within the confines of society, they must abide by societal rules. With the benefits and security afforded by living in a civilization, you are expected to fulfill civil duties and follow the mores established by that group.

The only people who are truly free to do whatever they want are the ones who live outside the confines of society. Although in this day and age, that would be really difficult to do. In society, we have rights, but they are limited. We can't really do whatever we want. We can't put whatever drugs and substances we want into our body, in many places woman can't legally have an abortion, teens can't simply "cut themselves," people can't take whatever they want, etc. You can disagree with these rules of course, but society will always impose it on you to follow it and the only real way to be free of it is to form your own society or leave it altogether.

Now, none of us had a choice when it came to being born or brought into life. If two people get together and the woman gets pregnant, the fetus doesn't really have a say. Should we then have a choice when it comes to dying or ending our life?

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Sadly, when someone's facing the impending death of a loved one, rather than thinking of the quality of life (or death) they can provide, they're afraid to let go and prefer to keep a person connected to a machine for days, months, even years.

I'd say that if we leave societal and religious rules aside, the main reason is fear.
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netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.

There are just too many negatives for this to ever be a "right".


To say that it shouldn't be right because it harms people completely disregards the fact that cigarettes, alcohol, chewing tobacco, etc. etc. etc. are all legal. Heck, even weed is going to be legal in California soon, so that is a completely baseless arguement. There are plenty of other rights with nothing but negatives.

To say that suicidal tendencies are caused by a mental disorder is just a personal opinion. Just because you force some depression pills on somebody does not mean they are going to not feel suicidal anymore. There is only one person who knows if you can ever be happy, and that is yourself. If you feel that you will never be happy, then you should be allowed to die.



Marijuana is actually not bad for you. But equating cigarettes to suicide is a little far fetched. Sure, it's not good for you, but since when have humans not had addictions.

If you feel that you will never be happy, then you have issues seeing the positive in the world. Whether depression or what not, you are not in a state that should have authority to dictate your own life at the expense of others.

It's selfish, short sighted, and unstable. Why should such rights be afforded to people who cannot make sound decisions.


Now you just sound like a tyrannical dictator who doesn't believe in rights. Who are you to say I can't make sound decisions? Just because you cannot properly empathize with people does not mean you can tell them what they can or cannot do. I won't go on any further, due to the fact that you may be a pothead who can't comprehend what I am saying, but I am just throwing it out there.
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lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


Typically, rights are given to the majority. I would assume people in the mind set of self harm are an extreme minority. Not to mention, suicide causes a lot of trouble to other people.

Also, if you have suicidal tendencies, then you do actually have a mental disorder. Because no healthy person in their right mind just suddenly feels like dying.

There are just too many negatives for this to ever be a "right".


To say that it shouldn't be right because it harms people completely disregards the fact that cigarettes, alcohol, chewing tobacco, etc. etc. etc. are all legal. Heck, even weed is going to be legal in California soon, so that is a completely baseless arguement. There are plenty of other rights with nothing but negatives.

To say that suicidal tendencies are caused by a mental disorder is just a personal opinion. Just because you force some depression pills on somebody does not mean they are going to not feel suicidal anymore. There is only one person who knows if you can ever be happy, and that is yourself. If you feel that you will never be happy, then you should be allowed to die.



Marijuana is actually not bad for you. But equating cigarettes to suicide is a little far fetched. Sure, it's not good for you, but since when have humans not had addictions.

If you feel that you will never be happy, then you have issues seeing the positive in the world. Whether depression or what not, you are not in a state that should have authority to dictate your own life at the expense of others.

It's selfish, short sighted, and unstable. Why should such rights be afforded to people who cannot make sound decisions.


Now you just sound like a tyrannical dictator who doesn't believe in rights. Who are you to say I can't make sound decisions? Just because you cannot properly empathize with people does not mean you can tell them what they can or cannot do. I won't go on any further, due to the fact that you may be a pothead who can't comprehend what I am saying, but I am just throwing it out there.


You can't properly argue my point so you attack me with an Ad hominem?

Also, you said I couldn't empathize? Did you not read the part where I said I have been suicidal. I know EXACTLY what it's like. I don't think you understand what I am saying, if you are so far off as to label me as a dictator who doesn't believe in rights.

I have never met anybody who has considered suicide a sound decision. You may the first for me. Because there are so few of you who would purposely devalue life, it is the exact reason why it will never be afforded as a right. My proof of this is in the fact that it currently isn't a right. The reality of the matter speaks for itself.
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