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Those people are lonely. They want to die because they are sick of living in the world. pity.....
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25 / M / Hughesville, Penn...
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shakiv wrote:

I can't help but find this thread foolish, obviously if you were completely committed to dying you'd be dead already so is this just a grab for attention or what? And the talk about a government hotline for people who want to die? Like hell if my tax dollars will ever go to such a stupid idea, if you don't have the stomach to do it yourself you don't have the right to die simple as that.


How exactly could I commit suicide on my own? The only way I can think of a sure suicide is making a guillotine-like device to decapitate yourself, and I am not in a postition where I can order the parts for this without getting the attention of school police or family members.
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All I can say is you need to get over yourself. Know that the entire world is not going to care on the whole, but it will mean the world to those who are close to you. If you think no one is close to you, you are very wrong, and thus, need to get over yourself.

Or just stop trolling.
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netdisorder wrote:

Because most people think life is precious. So naturally most people frown upon anything that would cause premature death.


Does that give them the right to decide that other people need to live as well? If you are a perfectly normal adult without a clinical medical disorder and wanted to die, shouldn't you be allowed to? It is no different than many other rights that people have.


That's just it. You're not normal if you choose that path. You are either depressed, or you are in some emotional state where you feel you must take your life. That is why the police would put someone on suicide watch, in hopes maybe that person would be thankful for the police giving them a chance to let that negative emotion fade a little.
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Why would I give you ideas on how to kill yourself? First reason I will not is I have nothing to profit from such a thing monetary or otherwise, second If you can't figure it out for yourself you have no right to die, third I will not in anyway be tied to your death my conscious is already stained enough as it is for my liking.
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shakiv wrote:

Why would I give you ideas on how to kill yourself? First reason I will not is I have nothing to profit from such a thing monetary or otherwise, second If you can't figure it out for yourself you have no right to die, third I will not in anyway be tied to your death my conscious is already stained enough as it is for my liking.


Exactly. You hide behind excuses because you know I am right. It is very hard to commit suicide in this day in age, and I believe there should be an easy way to do so. You people act so arrogant and cocky, thinking you are so much better than me. Please, if there is anyone out there who can come up with a half-decent argument on this poor gentleman's behalf, feel free to post it. All of you are obviously too stuck up in your ways to actually think about this topic in a rational manner. I guess I should expect this type of behavior, though, considering the fact that most people are so scared of death that they do not like thinking about the death of another person.
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lordseth23 wrote:


shakiv wrote:

I can't help but find this thread foolish, obviously if you were completely committed to dying you'd be dead already so is this just a grab for attention or what? And the talk about a government hotline for people who want to die? Like hell if my tax dollars will ever go to such a stupid idea, if you don't have the stomach to do it yourself you don't have the right to die simple as that.


How exactly could I commit suicide on my own? The only way I can think of a sure suicide is making a guillotine-like device to decapitate yourself, and I am not in a postition where I can order the parts for this without getting the attention of school police or family members.


There are a number of painless ways to kill oneself. I'm no expert, but there is a online tutorial of how to force induce sleep by inhaling carbon monoxide through a mask, and you simply die after drifting off.
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netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


shakiv wrote:

I can't help but find this thread foolish, obviously if you were completely committed to dying you'd be dead already so is this just a grab for attention or what? And the talk about a government hotline for people who want to die? Like hell if my tax dollars will ever go to such a stupid idea, if you don't have the stomach to do it yourself you don't have the right to die simple as that.


How exactly could I commit suicide on my own? The only way I can think of a sure suicide is making a guillotine-like device to decapitate yourself, and I am not in a postition where I can order the parts for this without getting the attention of school police or family members.


There are a number of painless ways to kill oneself. I'm no expert, but there is a online tutorial of how to force induce sleep by inhaling carbon monoxide through a mask, and you simply die after drifting off.


My point exactly.... -_____-

how exactly would I get the equipment to do this procedure?
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Maybe US society frowns on suicide, but I don't believe that all cultures do to the same extent. To simply dismiss anyone who has suicidal ideas as having some kind of mental problems is a little close-minded to me.


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I am 21, but I feel like I am 150 years old. I am sick and tired of life, and just want to end it as soon as possible. It is not a temporary problem that you may be thinking of, it is just a collosal heap of shit that I am too tired to explain in great detail now, but it IS a permanent problem. All you need to know is that I am looking now at a future of solitude, I have never had any friends at any point in my life, and I don't see that changing at any point in my life. There is no reason for me to continue living if I will never reach a satisfactory level of happiness.

Maybe it is too hard for people that have normal lives to understand, but I am just stating a position that not very many people have the courage to put on public forum.


I can't know how you feel, but there are other people who actually prefer being alone, and live happy lives alone. Also, I believe that most problems can be overcome and most things can be changed, probably even whatever situation you're in.
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lordseth23 wrote:


netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


shakiv wrote:

I can't help but find this thread foolish, obviously if you were completely committed to dying you'd be dead already so is this just a grab for attention or what? And the talk about a government hotline for people who want to die? Like hell if my tax dollars will ever go to such a stupid idea, if you don't have the stomach to do it yourself you don't have the right to die simple as that.


How exactly could I commit suicide on my own? The only way I can think of a sure suicide is making a guillotine-like device to decapitate yourself, and I am not in a postition where I can order the parts for this without getting the attention of school police or family members.


There are a number of painless ways to kill oneself. I'm no expert, but there is a online tutorial of how to force induce sleep by inhaling carbon monoxide through a mask, and you simply die after drifting off.


My point exactly.... -_____-

how exactly would I get the equipment to do this procedure?


There's a suicide package you can buy online. Not sure where because I have no interest in trying it myself.

If you want a less painful way of dying that doesn't require equipment. Just punch a wall until you break your wrist. Once your wrist is numb, you can slit your wrist without feeling the pain of the cut.

Imo, if you are too pussy to go a painful way, it's not worth trying at all. If you still care so much about pain, then you must value your life to some extent.
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If someone wants to die badly enough, they can just kill themselves. It isn't that hard. It's one of the most selfish actions a person can take, but it can be done. I would say something about how a person deciding to kill themselves should at least have the courtesy to do so in a way that they don't cause a big mess others have to clean up, but again, people that kill themselves are selfish, so that would fall on dead ears.

If a person is going to kill themselves, they don't need the assistance of anyone else (unless they are physically incapable of doing so). Forming any such kind of suicide assistance line (assisting in committing suicide) would be asinine. Typically, the type of person that would talk to others about wanting to kill themselves, outside of seeking assistance or sympathy, are just seeking attention and not really seeking to kill themselves in the first place.

Society "frowns upon" suicide because (no particular order):
1. They don't want to have to deal with your mess/after effects. This could include having to care for the ones that fail to kill themselves.
2. Suicide is one of the most selfish acts that be committed. (The person committing the act is so self-centered that they don't realize how taking their life would make those that love them feel, believe no one could love them, or don't give a d*** about the people that do.)
3. Some have religions reasons
4. People don't want those they care about to kill themselves


What about the people that are strapped into life support and want someone to pull the plug on them since they cannot pull it themselves...?
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I have no problem with someone taking their own life but if they cannot come up with a way to do it without someone else helping them they have no right to die whats so hard to understand about that? Obviously you're not capable of doing it yourself so give up on it............
And no it isn't I could walk into my kitchen right now and be dead within a matter of seconds with any matter of household supplies or cutlery so on so forth.
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ddr_dan wrote:

Maybe US society frowns on suicide, but I don't believe that all cultures do to the same extent. To simply dismiss anyone who has suicidal ideas as having some kind of mental problems is a little close-minded to me.




Yes, my question is referring to societies like the US in general that do not consider the right to die an actual right, as you can see by the number of posts that oppose the idea.
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25 / M / Hughesville, Penn...
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shakiv wrote:

I have no problem with someone taking their own life but if they cannot come up with a way to do it without someone else helping them they have no right to die whats so hard to understand about that? Obviously you're not capable of doing it yourself so give up on it............
And no it isn't I could walk into my kitchen right now and be dead within a matter of seconds with any matter of household supplies or cutlery so on so forth.


Well, you obviously haven't tried it, so you can't make that assumption. And why should it have to be a bloody, painful death? Why shouldn't have the right to a quick and effective death, just like I have the right to do other things?
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Well if you can't stomach the pain your mind and body both are telling you not to do it........ Second if it's done right you won't feel it...... Also yes I can state that fact because if you were going to do it wouldn't you be dead already? Very simple logic.
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