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Posted 10/24/12

netdisorder wrote:


lordseth23 wrote:


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shakiv wrote:

I can't help but find this thread foolish, obviously if you were completely committed to dying you'd be dead already so is this just a grab for attention or what? And the talk about a government hotline for people who want to die? Like hell if my tax dollars will ever go to such a stupid idea, if you don't have the stomach to do it yourself you don't have the right to die simple as that.


How exactly could I commit suicide on my own? The only way I can think of a sure suicide is making a guillotine-like device to decapitate yourself, and I am not in a postition where I can order the parts for this without getting the attention of school police or family members.


There are a number of painless ways to kill oneself. I'm no expert, but there is a online tutorial of how to force induce sleep by inhaling carbon monoxide through a mask, and you simply die after drifting off.


My point exactly.... -_____-

how exactly would I get the equipment to do this procedure?


There's a suicide package you can buy online. Not sure where because I have no interest in trying it myself.

If you want a less painful way of dying that doesn't require equipment. Just punch a wall until you break your wrist. Once your wrist is numb, you can slit your wrist without feeling the pain of the cut.

Imo, if you are too pussy to go a painful way, it's not worth trying at all. If you still care so much about pain, then you must value your life to some extent.


There is no point in suffering. I don't mind being beheaded, and that is painful for a brief instant. :3
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Posted 10/24/12 , edited 10/24/12

shakiv wrote:

Well if you can't stomach the pain your mind and body both are telling you not to do it........ Second if it's done right you won't feel it...... Also yes I can state that fact because if you were going to do it wouldn't you be dead already? Very simple logic.


Alas, no one is capable of teaching me how to do it right.

And the point of this thread is to question why there isn't a method of killing yourself effectively that is available publicly, not a discussion of suicidal methods that may or may not succeed.
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Okay they answer to your question is most schedule 2 drugs, you'll feel good while killing yourself... Readily available and fairly easy to obtain in today's society.
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I support allowing medical suicide for terminally ill patients that make that choice in sound mine. I think it's foolish to criminalize suicide and I do think it's a person's right to chose to end their life. However, apart from medical suicide for the terminally ill I do not think it should be legal for anyone else to facilitate suicide.
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“Shouldn’t people have the right to die?”

The heart of the problem rests in the counter question “Who determines where rights come from?” Let us consider a few options. Option A: Rights come from the state. Under this scenario, all you need to do is figure out if we legally have the right to die or not. I’m no legal expect, but I don’t believe that we do. Option B: Rights come from society. This is quite a popular view. If you take this view, then you need to look at the general consensus. Now I don’t claim to speak for the majority of this country, but it appears that most people don’t think we have this right (but who knows, maybe they do). However, if you subscribe to this option, then all you have to do is convince the majority of the country that we should have the right to die. If you do this, then that right will be given to you. We are currently doing the same thing right now with gay marriage. (I’m not saying anything for or against it, I’m just using it to illustrate my point). Option C: Rights come from yourself. If you subscribe to this option, then you already have the right to die, and you shouldn’t worry what anyone else thinks. There are a lot of other problems with this view, but I won’t go into those here.

Alternatively, some people move for an Option D: rights come from some external God. Under this option rights come from God, and so they can not be changed, altered, added, subtracted, etc. Not too many people subscribe to this option (I’m one of those that do).

These were just some thoughts I had while pondering your question. The real thing that you need to ask yourself is “Where do rights come from?” The answer you come up with will determine whether we should have the right to die or not.
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http://www.crunchyroll.com/folktales-from-japan/episode-19-ubasute-mountain-the-letterbearer-of-the-water-god-the-lucky-samurai-594989?p480=1

Also, nobody is an island, we're all in this world together. I think it's exceptionally selfish to allow people to commit suicide at any time of their lives.

http://www.poemhunter.com/poem/no-man-is-an-island/
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Fonzie once said


Got your big five! You got life, you got death, you got marriage, you got graduation!
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seekerperson7 wrote:

“Shouldn’t people have the right to die?”

The heart of the problem rests in the counter question “Who determines where rights come from?” Let us consider a few options. Option A: Rights come from the state. Under this scenario, all you need to do is figure out if we legally have the right to die or not. I’m no legal expect, but I don’t believe that we do. Option B: Rights come from society. This is quite a popular view. If you take this view, then you need to look at the general consensus. Now I don’t claim to speak for the majority of this country, but it appears that most people don’t think we have this right (but who knows, maybe they do). However, if you subscribe to this option, then all you have to do is convince the majority of the country that we should have the right to die. If you do this, then that right will be given to you. We are currently doing the same thing right now with gay marriage. (I’m not saying anything for or against it, I’m just using it to illustrate my point). Option C: Rights come from yourself. If you subscribe to this option, then you already have the right to die, and you shouldn’t worry what anyone else thinks. There are a lot of other problems with this view, but I won’t go into those here.

Alternatively, some people move for an Option D: rights come from some external God. Under this option rights come from God, and so they can not be changed, altered, added, subtracted, etc. Not too many people subscribe to this option (I’m one of those that do).

These were just some thoughts I had while pondering your question. The real thing that you need to ask yourself is “Where do rights come from?” The answer you come up with will determine whether we should have the right to die or not.


The context of the question refers to why it isn't a legally accepted right, which would allow assisted suicide to anyone 21 or over.
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reita187 wrote:

Fonzie once said


Got your big five! You got life, you got death, you got marriage, you got graduation!


I will never get married, and it is pretty much up in the air whether I am graduating college or not.
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lordseth23 wrote:


reita187 wrote:

Fonzie once said


Got your big five! You got life, you got death, you got marriage, you got graduation!


I will never get married, and it is pretty much up in the air whether I am graduating college or not.


well that's because you're a Pennsylvania country bumpkin. haha!
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..........Some of you are really bad people.

Anyway, even with what I typed earlier, we can discuss this really ridiculous topic all day, but there is no such thing as a right to die. Because no one can take death from you.
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i ddn't know this was extended discussion forum. i dont really want to talk about this serious stuff
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Posted 10/24/12

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Everyone who doesn't care if a person kills themselves is wrong.

And someone, please name one REALISTIC instance where killing yourself would be okay. Because I can't think of one.


If a person contributes nothing to society and are permanently unhappy, shouldn't they be allowed to kill themselves?
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No, because there's no such thing as permanent unhappiness, only the unwillingness to move around it.
And just because they haven't contributed to society doesn't mean they can't in the future.
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