Have you ever argued about a video games' genre?
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Posted 10/28/12
Point: Someone on youtube stated that Mass Effect was a Third Person Tactical Shooter, he then gets down voted and corrected, people saying it's an RPG.

Personally, I think it's a Tactical Third Person Shooter at it's core, with RPG elements to make it more interesting.

So, have you ever gotten into an argument like this? Is it worth arguing over? Can you do it without resorting to childish insults?

Just wondering, as the genre's have been getting so meshed up in the past 5-6 years, with games like borderlands, Mass Effect, etc.

What's the earliest mash up you can think of?

Games like Seiken Densetsu III, or Star Ocean were the first for myself. Action RPG's.

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Posted 10/29/12
I have never argued about this, and Mass Effect is a RPG with a small dose of 3rd person shooter elements, now Mass Effect 3 is the Tactical 3rd person shooter with RPG elements lol
Posted 10/29/12
I had a small argument about Borderlands once. I decided on it being an RPG more than an FPS, but my friend thought otherwise.
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I've stopped caring a long time ago. If someone wants to think a game belongs to genre and someone else thinks it belongs to another genre, they can both be right. It's just semantics.
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I guess I find the argument much more interesting :P

I like to think of the very core mechanics of the game, what it absolutely cannot do without.

In Mass Effect as a series, you can't replace the guns with anything. Too much of the game is about shooting. Then everything is added on top of that. It's essentially Halo with levels. Guns don't really change throughout the game, they don't do more base damage and such.

Borderlands is much more interesting to dissect. I think it's pretty firmly in the land of RPG's due to the skills and the way they distinguish the different types of guns. They also include damage types and special abilities, special grenades, etc. I stick with RPG because the guns are randomly generated with a few stats, including a base damage, and several different nice little buffs. I think you could replace and reorganize the system quite easily into any type of combat, including a type similar to skyrim.

Where the two are diffferent and confusing in these categories are where Mass Effect has many diverging stories that are not necessarily important. Borderlands has more or less one story that you follow. It's fairly linnear going through for the most part. Which brings us to the point of defining what mechanics make up an RPG and what mechanics make it just a shooter.

At any rate, a story does not make it an RPG. Guns don't make it an FPS. I just love trying to define these kinds of things. It's interesting to me.

the other argument I like to go back and forth on is whether a 'JRPG' is really an RPG in the true sense of the genre ^_^.
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Last week Jonathan Holmes of destructoid posted this http://www.destructoid.com/the-question-is-it-time-to-retire-the-term-rpg--237512.phtml
There he says that the term RPG can mean anything nowadays, so he opens the debate about stop using the term RPG or not.

Personally, I don't care, I grew up knowing that Final Fantasy is an RPG franchise. But then a lot of people told me the Zeldas were RPG and I didn't understand why.

Also, I still don't know what is the difference between a Hack & Slash and a Beat'em up.

I could argue about a lot of things in videogames, but genres is one of the things I'm not confident enough to discuss about.
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