The Drama forum has all these threads about dramas that arent available
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Maybe I'm not understanding Crunchyroll as I've only been a premium member for a couple of months, but it seems that there is very limited selection in terms of K-Dramas, so I find it odd that there is discussion in the forums as well as a wiki of dramas, all of which aren't available to watch.

Perhaps, the service lags behind because of licensing, and we will eventually get it?

I'm finding it difficult to justify the costs of the service, while in the meantime, the poster's in the crunchyroll drama forums are discussing dramas not available to us. I assume they are watching the content elsewhere....

The problem of course is reading HERE about something ELSEWHERE.

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geestring wrote:

Maybe I'm not understanding Crunchyroll as I've only been a premium member for a couple of months, but it seems that there is very limited selection in terms of K-Dramas, so I find it odd that there is discussion in the forums as well as a wiki of dramas, all of which aren't available to watch.

As I recall, the dramas are primarily available only for the U.S./Canada market, and it is generally not recommended to purchase a Full Access or Drama membership if you are in other countries.

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I'm in Canada.

It's just irritating that there is a community which talks about and contributes info on content that is not even available to the community. Now, what one must surmise from the forums is that people are watching it elsewhere, undermining the whole point of the site. Again, maybe it's something we north americans must deal with, which is waiting a year for a show? Like I said, I haven't been a member for long, and don't understand the release schedules for content.

I'm merely attempting to justify forking over money, while in the meantime I'm scouring the internet for ostensibly popular shows on other sites.
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The forum's purpose is to discuss Dramas. There is no rule that says discussions can ONLY be about shows offered on Crunchyroll.

Crunchyroll does not offer video games, but there is a forum discussing Xbox, Playstation, and PC games.

Is there a particular show you can give as an example? As TAO pointed out, NA users get access to most of the Dramas. If there is a Drama that CR offers, and you are unable to view that, then there may be an issue since you said you are in Canada.
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Let's be reasonable with our analogies. Crunchy Roll is not a video game retailer like you said, which makes it unreasonable for the customer to expect video games. Conversely, they are a service that intends on providing dramas, advertises it, charges a monthly fee for it, therefore one would expect dramas. Yes, I would have issues with my gamestop if they did not offer Black Ops launch month, or even launch week for that matter.

Does crunchyroll have an estimated release schedule for dramas? Or is it basically the viewers waiting to see what they get?

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geestring wrote:

Let's be reasonable with our analogies. Crunchy Roll is not a video game retailer like you said, which makes it unreasonable for the customer to expect video games. Conversely, they are a service that intends on providing dramas, advertises it, charges a monthly fee for it, therefore one would expect dramas. Yes, I would have issues with my gamestop if they did not offer Black Ops launch month, or even launch week for that matter.

Does crunchyroll have an estimated release schedule for dramas? Or is it basically the viewers waiting to see what they get?



Crunchyroll can only get the dramas that they can afford that are available for licensing. Not all dramas are available for licensing and not all are available cheap enough for a company the size of CR to be able to afford. Netflix is multitudes times larger than CR, and yet they still aren't able to afford to purchase the streaming rights for all movies or shows (take the Starz contract issue as an example, Netflix had to drop all Starz content because they couldn't afford Starz' new contract price)

You can't just start a streaming service with any movies or tv shows you want without getting permission and paying royalties first if you want to be legal. CR is a legal video streaming site so they have to follow the laws, and that requires they invest money up front to be able to acquire the rights to stream a certain show.

If CR does not have certain dramas, it is not because they DON'T want to offer them, it is because for some reason they CAN'T offer them.

It works the same way with retailers like Gamestop. Gamestop has to purchase copies of Black Ops 2 FIRST from the publishers, before they can sell it in their stores. They aren't given free copies and then allowed to pay back the publishers only after they sell a copy. If they don't have the money to purchase a game to stock their shelves, then they can't sell that game.
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It's been difficult to get Drama publishers onboard. We often get materials that are low quality or worse, are corrupt. So we often have to get replacements and this makes it take a long time to launch shows. As such, we have no set schedule for when releases occur. We're hoping to work more closely with Drama publishers and get a better schedule going but, in the short term, there's not much that can be done. In the long term, we do have plans to try and get more Drama content and to streamline the process.

Currently the only good quality and semi-consistent releases we get are simulcasts. Even then some simulcasts (of the very few we have) aren't really simulcasts since we still have to deal with material issues which cause delays in releasing.

I think the Drama industry as a whole has a ways to go in terms of providing digital content which makes sense since the industry is even smaller than the Anime industry and it took time to get some Anime publishers to digitize.
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geestring wrote: It's just irritating that there is a community which talks about and contributes info on content that is not even available to the community. Now, what one must surmise from the forums is that people are watching it elsewhere, undermining the whole point of the site. ...

A lot of dramas are streamed by Viki with very wide distribution (and quite often obvious and distracting subtitle mistakes, like calling "the princess", "he", and similar, since its almost all member-subbed).

A discussion in the drama forums of a drama streaming on Viki, that's like discussions in the Anime forum on Psycho-Pass or something else licensed by Funimation ... there are people that watch it on Funimation or Hulu, and then come here to discuss it.

Asking "is that drama on Viki? If it is, do you have a link?" would be OK, since Viki is a legit site, not a pirate site. Just like its OK to link to a Funimation stream or a Viz stream when talking about one of them.
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