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Post Reply Who here is disturbed by the poorly made music in the 21st century?
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Posted 1/4/13
It should be noted that not all 21st century music is bad, just the popular music that originates in the US.
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lordseth23 wrote:

It should be noted that not all 21st century music is bad, just the popular music that originates in the US.


Yup I never listen to the radio anymore just Anime and Video Game sound tracks for me.
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The only real exposure I get is the 5 minutes at the gym in the morning when I don't have my MP3 player buds firmly jammed into my ears.

It all sounds so weak and whiny. " Wah wah wah baby baby be mine, etc ad nauseum.
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Lol sure i can live a day with bad hair it just hair xD.
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Thats why i only listen to japanese music,american music sucks in everyway.my android is just fill up with epic anime soundtracks and anime music like openings and endings.
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My view on music is that in America, it peaked in the 60s-70s and 80s, the 90s were a cool-down period in my opinion,


You are DEFINITELY talking my era. There were SO many bands who started out in the '60's and '70's that are still going strong today.

Exhibit #1- The Rolling Stones are about to start out on their new tour celebrating 50 years together as a band. 50 FREAKING YEARS!!! Need I say more?

Exhibit #2- Peter Frampton recently concluded a tour celebrating the 30th anniversary of his breakout album "Frampton Comes Alive".

Exhibit #3- Eric Clapton (for me, that says it all) is in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame not once, not twice, but THREE times for his work from Cream (his band in the mid '60's through the early '70's), Derek and the Dominoes, and his solo work. He is coming to my area in just a couple months.

Exhibit #4- (and I am a HUGE fan)- Pink Floyd. Enough said. If you know, you understand. If you don't know, there's no way to accurately describe the musical alchemy Roger Waters, David Gilmour, Nick Mason, Richard Wright, and Syd Barrett created. Listen to "Dark Side Of The Moon" just once. And I mean really LISTEN, not just hear. Let the music enter your mind.

Exhibit #5- (and leaving my personal favorite to last) Rush has just been inducted into the R&R HoF. They started in the mid '70's and are still releasing great albums. "Tom Sawyer", from their "Moving Pictures" album, is considered THE song that defined 1980. One chord on the synthesizer, a cymbal crash, and the crowd goes absolutely BANANAS!!! And I am one of them.

And these are just a mere touch of what is now considered classic rock now. I could go on for hours about AC/DC, Van Halen, Bob Seger, Styx, Foreigner, REO Speedwagon, TED NUGENT, and a thousand other great groups. A lot of the music I've heard coming out today just sounds like it was thrown into a blender, set on high, and what is left is dumped out and sold as music. I will admit that there are some decent bands out now, but every song I have heard sounds like every other song. It is hard to tell where one ends and the next starts. And don't even get me started on hip hop. I feel FM rock and roll radio died with Nirvana and the birth of grunge. Everything has devolved since then.

I could go on forever on this subject, but to sum things up, to quote Neil Young, "Hey. hey/ My. my/ Rock and roll will never die!"

(and all you older members who are around my age, admit it. You sang along too.)
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Good grief, people love to speak in sweeping generalizations, don't they? "All this is that", "All that is this". That aside, I agree quite a bit that music quality has backslid quite a bit, though nostalgia goggles can be pretty powerful sometimes. If you really, REALLY think that all American music sucks in the 21st Century, just make the effort to do a little digging and you turn up a few gems here and there.

It's very tempting to settle into these hard worn ruts of pessimism, but doesn't the fact that SO many people acknowledge and talk about the problem mean that there's some hope for future generations, especially if they're being raised by said people?

Chin up, folks.
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I find that a large percentage of modern western music, as well as music elsewhere, tends to be abhorrent. It's really the worst part of a workout at the gym.

The nice thing about listening to a Russian song is that at least you can't understand most of what they're singing about - you just liked listening to it in Grand Theft Auto IV.
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Thepoorfool wrote:

My view on music is that in America, it peaked in the 60s-70s and 80s, the 90s were a cool-down period in my opinion, i HAVE to ask the members of this site there opinion on the poorly made, often terrible music being made in the 21s century, why is this happening? What happened to the greatness of music?

While there are SOME good bands being made now like "Icon for Hire", there nothing compared to the greatness of the past era's, like metal gods Black Sabbath, Pop rock gods Fleetwood Mac, and many other artists of the various musical genre's we have experienced.

Music being made now is mostly repeated lyrics and senseless and poorly thought out back-round sound...as for the instrumental quality that has declined as well.

I have to ask, why has this happened? What do you people think?


There is plenty of great, creative music.

Look outside of the mainstream and you will find sounds you have never heard before.

The best of what is put there is not going to find you, If you are waiting for mainstream radio to deliver something to your tastes, you will be waiting forever. Thing have changed since the days you mention. For one, practically all of the mainstream radio stations are owned by big corporations. Clear Channel. They dictate everything that is on the playlist. Gone are the days when each station was independently owned. That is why you hear so much of the same thing everywhere.

I would suggest that you go to the reddit forums and find the different groups who like the music you have liked in the past. They will probably have suggestions that will take you to other groups and even more new, great music you didn't know existed.

I was once into the bands you mention. I can't say that I listen to them that much anymore because there is so much variety out there

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Here is a couple of bands I doubt anybody here has heard of. Not very "pop", I'll admit.
(if you have, Awesome! - this stuff isn't exactly classifiable)

Madder Mortem - dark melodic metal-ish with a VERY intense female singer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrytYhPiVpg&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CxYjl6qEeYJWpYDp7nosIt
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfD6lo_7o0U&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CxYjl6qEeYJWpYDp7nosIt

Low - American band from the upper midwest. Hypnotic, but surprisingly melodic as well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhJAR6UZsCk&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDwa05ktwJ0

Here's a good Japanese Band for you:
Boris ----First, a "pop" song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPID_JdAXaQ

---- though they are better known for their sludge metal!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2BQVmE0Plk

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Every once in awhile I hear a good song or two but other than that most of this new stuff sucks.
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Okay, so i was in large part being a pessimistic moron, i have trouble with broad sweeping statements, one of my life goals is to be a wise/knowledgeable person that looks on things from as many sides to get the best answer, i am not wrong that a lot of the music now is crap, but i was very wrong to label all music being made now bad, some of it is actually very good. For instance the new album Om just put out, in 2012, i thought that was amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

You just need to dig to find the good stuff, and while that is sad, its a fact and we have to live with it. But do not get me wrong, ask the right person "Like my brother for instance" and you could really find some awesome bands, you just have to ask the right questions, as well as the right people.
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Right here.
Jesus christ.
But I haven't given up hope on the media- oh no. There's got to be some new things that I will like. And there is. It's just harder to come across now. Because so many things have gone to shit. But I always happen to find something I like.
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Thepoorfool wrote:

Okay, so i was in large part being a pessimistic moron, i have trouble with broad sweeping statements, one of my life goals is to be a wise/knowledgeable person that looks on things from as many sides to get the best answer, i am not wrong that a lot of the music now is crap, but i was very wrong to label all music being made now bad, some of it is actually very good. For instance the new album Om just put out, in 2012, i thought that was amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing.

You just need to dig to find the good stuff, and while that is sad, its a fact and we have to live with it. But do not get me wrong, ask the right person "Like my brother for instance" and you could really find some awesome bands, you just have to ask the right questions, as well as the right people.


My sentiments exactly.

- and that Om album is good stuff.

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Most of the music you hear is crap, it always has been. I think it's harder to find good music now days but part of that problem is "Oldies stations" and "Talk/bullshit radio". Most of the new stuff I hear is on the Letterman show, something I am embarrassed to admit to.
I am curious just how many people actually listen to radio anymore as well as where does anyone hear "new" music lately?
Being that I refuse to pay for TV, I don't have cable, so that tends to limit my exposure as well.

Sometimes you have to listen to music for a few times before you decide if you like it or not.

Another thing that I've found to be interesting is the phenomenon that because someone has a good song or two people get the idea that everything they create is good. I really like the Beatles but when I go and listen to their albums their collective sucky-song ratio is around 50% crap, more or less, depending on the album and your personal taste. Paul McCartney's solo stuff is, for me, crappier. I remember getting a CD of the Cardigans when they had a song that got some airplay. That turned out to be the only good song on the CD, 1 of 12 or about a 92% sucky-song ratio. Conversely I got a CD by Bill Frisell; "Gone, Just Like a Train" and I liked all the songs, and that was just luck. The last CD I got a hold of is Nazareth; "Big Dogs" and so far I've thought it to be about 30% sucky. That is pretty good.

It's kind of like the personalities that do infotainment and punditainment, people hear them say a few things that they agree with then they get the idea that everything those entertainers say is good . . . a dangerous and stupid thing to assume.
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