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Barack Obama Second Term
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ad hominem, carpe diem, habeas corpus, lorem ipsum, shut upus!!!!!
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Ok, it was fine talking to you.
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Posted 11/7/12

moltm wrote:

ad hominem, carpe diem, habeas corpus, lorem ipsum, shut upus!!!!!


^This.
Posted 11/7/12

meipurushiroppu wrote:

i WANTED ROMNEY TO WIN...... I want him because I disagree with Obama's choice of legalizing same sex marriage and he legalized abortion! poor unborn babies T_T this is total bs...... It is against my morals for those things to happen


why what's wrong with same sex marriage?

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The current national debt is around $16,500,000,000,000 (16.5 Trillion Dollars) once it gets past 18 Trillion we are all screwed. Don't act like this has nothing to do with you. If the debt gets any more out of hand we will be paying 100% tax and the government will redistribute the wealth as they see fit. Not long ago we were at arms with communists about this very issue. I cannot believe it. If he turns around and gets the country back in order and reduces the national debt than I will gladly say he did a good job, until then he has failed and the debt shows that.


i'm amazed at all the baseless assumptions all of you are making.

inform yourselves first then form your opinions, don't be like a parrot repeating things and taking them out of context. and then spewing so much crap.


if you want to argue then argue with facts not baseless assumptions or emotions.

FACT. Bush was the worst president we have ever had. he alone effed up our economy. before bush came into office we had zero debt. you can thank clinton for that... once bush took the office, we started a few wars. the first was meaningless. going to war with iraq was worthless. and we lost a lot of soldiers and wasted too much money on it. afganistan was also worthless. when we could have just done what obama did. send a special ops team to kill osama and be done with it.

also remember that the market crash happened under the bush administration and the republicans controlled the congress after the first year effectively obstruction 90% of the things obama wanted to do and make good on his word. after obama took office we started recovering from the market crash. if you know anything about stocks you would know that the dow jones is now at almost completely recovered and on its way to reaching the record maximum.

if you know anything about economics then you should know that in order for the economy to start flowing again you need to put money in. Bailout comes in, but the economy did not start working immediately because after the crash people were fearful of losing even more money or their livelihood.

if you say that romney was the best choice. you should really consider going back to middle school and study more and raise your way up the education ladder. romney outsourced 100's of thousands of jobs to china and india... there is your true capitalist. what do a capitalistic wants? money but not for this country, but for himself.

A capitalist economy - is basically just an economic system based on private ownership of capital. with 0 government involvement. for this refer to bush's terms in office. he deregulated many things and let the business owners and corporations make their own decisions...
guess what? that did not work and he had the market crash and went into a depression (yes depression not a recession) we are finally out of that depression and have finally started to see the light at the end of the tunnel. while i do not think obama is the best president we have ever had, i do believe that currently he is the only man able to completely get us out of the mess bush got us into.

now i know all of you romney sheeps will hate my post and try to retaliate. thats fine i welcome any and all arguments and specially constructive criticism.

but before you speak (write) go and familiarize yourself with how the government and the economy works. then give facts and not hearsay or fallacies. make sound arguments, not emotional ones.

and just to make something clear I did vote for obama and he was not my main choice but out of the ones that actually had a chance of winning he is the one that aligns itself more to my own beliefs. my main choice would have been the green party. but she obviously had no real chance of winning.

and now with a democratic congress and senate you all can expect to see a bit more changes but don't expect miracles.




You're seriously not concerned if we dip past 18 Trillion Dollars in debt? How do you think we as a country will pay for that? That is not a baseless claim. If Obama does well for the country during his second term I will be the first to congratulate him, until then we are not doing so well.


again that debt is not obamas it was bush's obama has been the president with one of the lowest spending. that you all want to admit that or not is a different issue
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So is this turning into a political debate or who has the bigger penis?
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Im just wondering what Obama has done to deserve this? OH! I know, he went on vacation!! Seriously, being Pres. isn't all fun and games...........
Yosh, Once I've saved up Im moving to Switzerland! When I have children, I don't want them to be stuck in this mess!
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meipurushiroppu wrote:


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I voted for the Obama team, so "YAY!". Personally his views are similar if not the same as mine at the moment. Plus he hasn't pissed me off yet with anything he has done.


so basically ur ok with abortion?


so basically ur ok with telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies, especially concerning it can easily change the fabric of their life forever?

If so, you're not the kind of person I like talking to.

You have beliefs? Fine, keep to them, do whatever you want, just don't try to force them on people you don't even know.

This isn't the middle east.



Why shouldn't we? There's a thing called STUPIDITY. You don't go shack up with someone and do it knowing the risks. There's a thing called protection. Don't want a baby? Try using the precautions put there for you. That or don't do it at all. Problem solved.

No one reaps what they sow anymore, that's why this world is so friggin messed up. You can burglarize a home, get shot, sue the home owner, and even win. No one is held accountable or bears the responsibility anymore, it's just shoved off onto someone else.

As far as abortions go, that should be the sole right to rape victims, they DIDN'T ask for that, nor (in a lot if not most cases) could they prevent it. More than half the people getting abortions are teen queens and, to be blunt, whores who are just too lazy to use protection and take responsibility for stupidity.




A few questions, simply interested in understanding your viewpoint.

You suggest that the majority of abortions involve stupid, irresponsible, teen queen whores (your words).
You certainly don't seem to have a high opinion of these people.

So, do you really want to increase the proportion of that demographic in the country?
Have them not only produce children sharing any genes that may predispose them to the traits given above, but also raise these children, with the same wisdom that led them to this scenario in the first place?

How do you think most of those children will end up? And should the children have being raised by a "stupid, irresponsible, teen queen whore" inflicted upon them (most likely with no help from the father)?

If not, then who is going to take responsibility? I don't think you can say the mother's family is a great choice, since they raised a "stupid, irresponsible teen queen whore".

It's easy to point the finger and say "be responsible", but does condemning children to be raised this way make the country a better place to live? If so, how?

From a different angle, how does somebody getting an abortion hurt you? If it does not, how is it fair for you to deny them the right? Doesn't it come down to morals, and if so, under what authority is it that your morals are right? If you can't prove your choice is correct, is it right to make the choice for somebody else?

Personally, if we're going to outlaw anything, I think it should be sub-woofers. I'm tired of hearing/feeling other people's so-called music from hundreds of feet away. It has a direct impact on my quality of life. Abortion? Not so much.

Also, I'm sure there are a few people reading this that were/are a teenage mother and rose to the challenges this presented to them, raised their child well and have been a productive member of society. I can only imagine how difficult that would be; they have my respect. I certainly would not call them "stupid, irresponsible teen queen whores". Some of them may say they are glad they did not abort the child, that they love them, and I think that is great - abortion should be a choice, nobody is saying you have to do it. I merely see no logical reason to deny the right to do so. Emotional reasons, perhaps, but if we allow our emotions to dictate the rights of others, what kind of world do we create?
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meipurushiroppu wrote:

i WANTED ROMNEY TO WIN...... I want him because I disagree with Obama's choice of legalizing same sex marriage and he legalized abortion! poor unborn babies T_T this is total bs...... It is against my morals for those things to happen


why what's wrong with same sex marriage?



we are men and women...i just dnt wanna continue with all this controversy
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yeah and some of us are men who love men and women who love women

why do you hate love
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[True saying from StarCraft]
You have persecuted us for generations...
...and now you beg us to aid you?
We will do what we must...
...but we do it for Aiur, not you...

I was hoping Obama would be president, but didn't realize he was about some of those things, but you know, from the outside looking in Obama seems more ideal to handle the issues of the nation, though not everyone will agree, that's what voting is for, not everyone will be happy at the end.

How did it turn into a debate about abortion? You realize you're baiting and fueling an argument? You say it's morals and such, so leave people alone with their opinions if you want to be left alone for yours. People are so dumb.
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Your beliefs and your desire to impose them are catalysts of controversy.
Posted 11/7/12
I can still remember how mad I was when Bush got re-elected, so I know what the right is feeling right now. Cheer up, we will probably put a republican in office next time.
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Can't believe people were stupid enough to vote for him. I guess socialism is cool now?


If it was, we'd have a legit socialist party. To consider the Democratic party socialist is an insult to socialism.


His actions dictate socialism though. Distribution of wealth? That's socialism 101



Social security is redistribution of wealth. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are redistribution of wealth. Bailing out the corporate fat cats on wall street... redistribution. Paying for a billion f'ing tanks that the Army doesn't even want... f'ing redistribution.

To quote Jon Stewart... "We're all socialists, we're just debating what shade of red we are."

You're going to freak out if we ever do get a legitimate socialist party here. Democrats are NOT socialist, and are prone to just as much corporate influence and private interest and supporting the American plutocracy as Republicans.


Social Security is a joke. Nobody can live off it, but we'll be lucky if it even exists by the time we are old enough to get it.
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Although true, my point still remains.
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