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Hunting, your veiw on it?
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Posted 11/16/12
No problem with hunting, although I will say that a good portion of hunters I've met annoy me. But there's also a good portion that were pretty cool as well. I guess it's just when they fit into the redneck stereotype that it bothers me.
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Posted 11/16/12 , edited 11/16/12

BearSol wrote:


GayAsianBoy wrote:

I think it's wrong.

I recently had a pet just passed away... and it was a devastating experience for me. I'm still grieving even though it's been 5 months.

In the last moments of her life, she was holding on to dear life, and it made me realise how much every animal wants to live. How precious life is.

And to take that away is just cruel.


Plants feel and want to live, yet I don't hear you preaching about saving the fruits and vegetables. At least we don't eat the animals while they're alive like we do them.




Actually, some plants want their fruits to be eaten.

From a scientific point of view, plants make their fruits smell good so that animals are drawn to the fruits so the animals can go somewhere else, defecate the seed... and thus the seed grow everywhere allowing that plant to reproduce in different areas.

This is known as dispersal. Read up on any Biology 101 textbook.

http://gereon.greenheart.es/dispersal.php

Another technique that plants use to reproduce effectively is pollination. Once again, they make a certain smell that attract bees to gather pollen at their flowers... allowing the pollen to scatter to the female counterparts.



Animals DO NOT want to be eaten, that's why they try to run away from hunters.
The thing that bothers me is how can anyone keep chasing a scared animal that keeps running?

If you don't call that cruelty, what do you call it?
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Actually, some plants want their fruits to be eaten.

From a scientific point of view, plants make their fruits smell good so that animals are drawn to the fruits so the animals can go somewhere else, defecate the seed... and thus the seed grow everywhere allowing that plant to reproduce in different areas.

This is known as dispersal. Read up on any Biology 101 textbook.

http://gereon.greenheart.es/dispersal.php

Another technique that plants use to reproduce effectively is pollination. Once again, they make a certain smell that attract bees to gather pollen at their flowers... allowing the pollen to scatter to the female counterparts.



Animals DO NOT want to be eaten, that's why they try to run away from hunters.
The thing that bothers me is how can anyone keep chasing a scared animal that keeps running?

If you don't call that cruelty, what do you call it?


my dinner getting away? J/K man your entitled to your own opinion just like everyone else. But most the hunters I know aren't to into letting the game start running first. With the exception of fox hunting witch is the only pursuit based hunting I know of and is illegal as far as I know. But if you do eat meat and get the chance, eat some Venison it's outstanding when cooked right.

But on a more serious note I am a little surprised on the general consensus that hunting for food is okay but not for sport. I live in Texas and around here it's highly uncommon for anyone to not get the meat from any game they hunt, even if they went out specifically for the trophy animal. The meat is all considered to good to go to waste by almost everyone. and it's not uncommon for local hunters to strike deals with their friends who don't hunt to bring them the meat instead.

That said I really haven't got the opportunity to go hunting myself. I didn't grow up in a family that that hunts, guess it's a draw back to not being a native texan/southerner. I would like to though because I do spend a lot of time target shooting and practicing archery and it only seems to be the natural progression of that path around here. However I find it's difficult to get into if you don't have some really close friends willing to take out to their lease.
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So just because some plants want their fruits to be eaten we should be ok with murdering all plants? Do you know plants cry out to each other when being harmed? How many carrots have you murdered in your life time? How many potatoes? Your arguement is bollocks and you know it.
Just because plants can't run doesn't mean they want to die.

"If you don't call that cruelty, what do you call it?"

Go chew on rocks and I'll be happy murdering my peas and chickens. Because I'm a man the way nature made me.
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Posted 11/17/12
does fishing count? and i think hunting is n awesome way to get meat
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The deer have been coming into our yard and eating my plants down to twigs. Their little herd has been growing in numbers. I think I'm going to get myself a bow-hunting license.
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Hunting is a natural thing to do. EVERY animal has to do it in one form or the other, hence what they call the food chain. I don't see hunting as being an ethical issue (outside of hunting endangered species) at all.

Instead of worrying about hunting, try looking up how fast food places treat their animals to get their meat (Fast Food Inc gives you an idea of it).
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Love to be outdoors long cool days with dog, so I love wing-shooting. Love to eat venison but I can't wear enough layers or insulation to keep still and warm for more than an hour so rarely hunt lg. game. All good, my gripe with hunters is taking an unclean kill. JC how difficult is it to wait until your sure you have a clean shot. If your not sure, don't shoot, you haven't earned it. Better yet go home or spend a little more time at the range. Living on the east-coast we seem to have a lot of guys who see themselves as big game hunters, they go out and buy a brand new gun, take their licensing course and now they know everything. In the past two years I've had to kill 2 does which some idiot was too lazy to follow, aside from the fact they were poor shots. And I don't get out that often.
When I was finishing school I worked for the U.S.D.A., in a genetics lab but to all of you anti-hunters let me tell you there is nothing less humane than the livestock slaughter. The animals are penned up and run through shutes into the kill rooms. Their pupils constricted, eyes darting in panic, defecating and urinating in fear while struggling to escape. Some folks think animals are thoughtless stupid creatures but witnessing that once opens your eyes. Anyway how healthy a diet is a diet of dried corn and wheat with some vitamins and nutrients thrown in? It wouldn't be healthy for you. Guess what it's not healthy for the livestock either. But in this day and age most farmers do not allow (or cannot afford) enough or any pasture for their livestock and that's what your buying at the grocery store. Ever wonder why people are getting so fat, aside from lack of exercise, the meat has so many genetically modified products within it. I'd hazard to guess that 80% or more of the feed that livestock eat have g.m. grains.
And then we'll hear from the vegetarians who say well we just shouldn't eat meat. If only some non-bleeding heart sane person would explain to them that if they really cared they themselves should stop procreating at such alarming rates that possibly livestock could be given humane existences and not have to be killed in conveyor belt like factories.
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hunting should only be done out of necessity for food and the whole animal should be used. if you want to take up archery (I do archery) shoot at the foam or stuffed targets not real ones.
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The majority of people that hunt have a great respect for animals and wild life in general. If you've never killed an animal to eat, you just wouldn't understand the respect that hunters have for their prey. They respect animals far more than any of the PITA members ever will.
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