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Chinese pop star 24 declares love for 12 year old girl
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Those of you that think this is ok, I bet if she was your daughter (your thoughts after you have kids, not now) you wouldn't be so approving. She still has a lot of emotional/physical/mental growing up to do. Whether she thinks so or not, she's being taken advantage of, and her parents are failing at their responsibilities.
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We Americans have this beautiful way of forcing our beliefs and values on other country's.
Such as, being legal and mature enough for dating someone older starts at age 18(I understand the age difference from 12 to 18)
What if it was 19 or 29 i know it sounds stupid, but thats how we sound to people from those countrys. What about the immature 18 year olds who has been sheltered and has the maturity of a 10
year old? Our American, or other country's who have a close age limit to ours can't look down
and say...since your not doing what we believe in...your wrong. At the end of the day...she will wait
until she's old enough and then we will see how right our American ideals really are. I see reply's
saying " MOST girls at that age, or she can't possible understand what she's getting into and excedra"
basically speaking in her place. We shall wait and see then we will know if it was real.


As a female who was born into a family (of non-american origin) of females (and a dad) and raised around females (my dad was often deployed), had female friends, went to school with females and have tons of female relatives, I can tell you that no female I ever knew would be mature enough to date a guy that old. If I did that, my mom would come after him with a machete....and rightfully so. I often find that it is the males in a foreign society that encourage that sort of thing....if the females do, it is usually for economic/prestige/power reasons. I bet if they had a choice (women) they wouldn't allow/push their daughters to that sort of relationship.
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I'm surprised people think that it's ok because girls used to get married very young back in the day. Yes it was common back then but it also meant many children and young girls were left vulnerable to all kinds of abuse without anyone speaking out for them. The reality is that this guy in showing romantic interest towards a girl he has known and mentored since the age of 8, and she is still a child which makes it an abuse of power and trust. An adult has power over a child and most children are taught to respect an obey adults and as a mentor he is in a position of trust. The fact that he's been in her life means he was in a position of great influence to her around the times she was still vulnerable. This means she's at high risk of being manipulated into going along with what he wants because she trusts him and he holds an important position in her life. My question is why couldn't they maintain a friendship until she is at least old enough? Why this need to qualify their relationship as something more? And the countdown is nothing but creepy, almost like he has not considered she might ever grow up, change and want to end the relationship.


Exactly.
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Lmao Most people will call HIM a pedo, but i have had about 3 grown woman tell me that they cant wait till im legal age when i was a handsome 12 year old boy and a lot others would be obviously attracted to me, but didn't say a word about until I got older...one actually tried something but failed. I am not into women under 21 but i cant hate him because he is at least waiting until she becomes of legal age in his country...things like this happen wayy more than people would like to believe. As long as he doesn't act on it and wait...i don't see an issue at all.


That's not love, that's lust....big difference.
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My dad is older than by mom by 6 years. In asian cultures, guys like to marry younger girls cause in their mid 40s, guys tend to look younger and girls looks somewhere 3-5 years older than the guys.


Yeah, but how old were they when they married? My sister and her husband are 6 years apart, but they got married when she was 30.
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Your all calling him a pedo, but the girl seems fine with it.
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Peadophiles are known for being manipulative.

He's an adult and she's a child who probably hasn't even hit puberty , he should really know better.

If he was just an ordinary guy instead of some celebrity I don't think people would be so quick to defend him. He also doesn't fit into the 'creepy/strange/ugly/old man' profile that most people imagine when they think of one.



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My dad is older than by mom by 6 years. In asian cultures, guys like to marry younger girls cause in their mid 40s, guys tend to look younger and girls looks somewhere 3-5 years older than the guys.


That's totally different.

It doesn't matter whatsoever if both parties are of legal age or at least...One of them is in their late teens, and the other decides to wait.

This is a GROWN MAN with a CHILD.
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it doesn't matter to me if there's a 12 year difference, in the future she could be 25 & he'd be 37.

But she isn't 25 & neither is he 37 so it really sickens me that he would fall in love with a 12 year old & WAIT for her to grow up & ''be in a relationship'' PFTT, AS IFF~ he's just waitin' for her to be 18 & bang her T_T
it's simply pedo-shit -A-

&the girl pisses me off aswel, yeah she's 12 buhh that doesn't mean she's dumb, she should know better, gahh~ Dx

that's all ._.
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marcel20 wrote:

Lmao Most people will call HIM a pedo, but i have had about 3 grown woman tell me that they cant wait till im legal age when i was a handsome 12 year old boy and a lot others would be obviously attracted to me, but didn't say a word about until I got older...one actually tried something but failed. I am not into women under 21 but i cant hate him because he is at least waiting until she becomes of legal age in his country...things like this happen wayy more than people would like to believe. As long as he doesn't act on it and wait...i don't see an issue at all.


That's not love, that's lust....big difference.



hmm, Lust would be if he would try something other then merely having a relationship (which doesnt mean anything sexual is going on, hopefully it isnt anyway), or using her and dumping her shortly after she gets older. Merely her being young doesnt mean she is being manipulated, and if he is really willing to wait until she is order, and thus more mentally mature with the ability to make her own decisions on things legally, then how is is not love?

personally, While I disapprove of such relationships merely because the number of guys who would actually make sure it doesnt going on beyond mere dating is slim at best, I dont see anything wrong with it. Honestly it is alot better then if she was dating someone her own age, BECAUSE he is so much older, he should have the maturity and if he does indeed love her, the mentality to make sure things dont cross the line until she is ready, without any type of manipulation.

If she was dating someone her own age, people wouldnt be talking about it or worried, yet there would be more chance of something happening then, then there is now if she is with him. boys her age are more prone to try something or to coerce her to do something then he would, for two reasons other then that of love 1) because he is order, and with it not being legal, he is already treading on thing ground, so I highly doubt either of them would do something that would put either of them in jeopardy legally, and 2) because they both have careers which depend on the public liking them, I doubt either of them (especially him being order and thus would have less opportunity to get a career back on track if something were to go wrong). since they did know eachother for so long already, it isnt really hard to see why some type of relationship to crop up between them.

overall, its not that uncommon for a girl of that age to be in a relationship, i mean look at other countries. In Southern Asia, 48%—nearly 10 million—of girls are married before the age of 18., and In Africa, 42% of girls were married before turning 18. most of them are forced into the marriages by their parents (so they can get dowries, thus basically getting paid for selling their underage daughters off).
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hrmm...

Okay, this is completely assuming that they are having a sexual relationship. And if they are not, and the guy is totally waiting until she is older, then even though I think it's weird I'm gonna give them the weird twilight pass card. GOOD FOR YOU JACOB!

So if they are having a sexual relationship//

Kay guys, let's look at this from a purely "scientific" perspective. and NOT a society-influenced value/opinions..

EVERYONE DO THEIR RESEARCH ABOUT THE BRAIN AND THE FRONTAL LOBE, which is responsible for long-term decision making. Adolescents do not, and cannot (even if they think they can) make decisions properly without parental/guardian guidance. I know that sounds like a big slap in the face for a lot of you who are adolescents, and i know for a FACT that if someone said this to me when I was 12, I would have called BS. And that's not a bad attitude to have. That head-strong attitude of yours will get you through some tough times in life, so it shouldn't be entirely discouraged.

However, the real FACT is, that the reason why we never understand these decisions when we are younger, is cause it does not affect us until we are older. Our decisions we make as children CAN affect us as adults. Meaning, there is a good chance she will grow up and look back, and think about this relationship in a different light.

Also, children are FREE TO EXPLORE THEIR OWN SEXUALITIES. The ONLY proven healthy way of doing this, is to explore their sexuality on their own. I'm not saying all the kids should go wacking off in front of everyone's mother, but it's considered a healthy, normal development to explore sexuality on their own terms. The problem with an adult, is that most likely the adult has different urges, different ideas about sexuality, that they will consciously, or unconsciously, project them onto a child, should they decide to have sex with a child.

Plus, engaging in sexual activities with a developing human being can make a person addicted to sex as an adult.

Now, after knowing all of this (which you can freely google yourself to see whether or not it's true), and this guy still chooses a sexual relationship, Imma shake him and her parents.

EDIT// and for those of you guys claiming it's "normal" in other countries. c'mon guys, those are usually countries where children and females are second rate citizens. Don't use that as a legit comparison, you are not helping your case at all!
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PhyongHwa wrote:


marcel20 wrote:


karmacide wrote:m

itt: anime fans defend pedophilia and statutory rape

i love you guys


We Americans have this beautiful way of forcing our beliefs and values on other country's.
Such as, being legal and mature enough for dating someone older starts at age 18(I understand the age difference from 12 to 18)
What if it was 19 or 29 i know it sounds stupid, but thats how we sound to people from those countrys. What about the immature 18 year olds who has been sheltered and has the maturity of a 10
year old? Our American, or other country's who have a close age limit to ours can't look down
and say...since your not doing what we believe in...your wrong. At the end of the day...she will wait
until she's old enough and then we will see how right our American ideals really are. I see reply's
saying " MOST girls at that age, or she can't possible understand what she's getting into and excedra"
basically speaking in her place. We shall wait and see then we will know if it was real.


As a female who was born into a family (of non-american origin) of females (and a dad) and raised around females (my dad was often deployed), had female friends, went to school with females and have tons of female relatives, I can tell you that no female I ever knew would be mature enough to date a guy that old. If I did that, my mom would come after him with a machete....and rightfully so. I often find that it is the males in a foreign society that encourage that sort of thing....if the females do, it is usually for economic/prestige/power reasons. I bet if they had a choice (women) they wouldn't allow/push their daughters to that sort of relationship.


So you basically saying that it is from your experience not normal...I agree, but we can't know if it is absolutely impossible to work out.
Would I date a 18I year old, hell no even if she is legal...it will be a sheer waste of my life force, but could it work if she was mature enough?
Maybe. What I'm saying is that they will go along with this no matter what we think or say, time is a beautiful thing in that it will reveal hidden truth's and POSSIBILITIES. we should follow this story to see if he waits for her and if their love is more than lust.
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EDIT// and for those of you guys claiming it's "normal" in other countries. c'mon guys, those are usually countries where children and females are second rate citizens. Don't use that as a legit comparison, you are not helping your case at all!


This is about china, the age of consent (sexual activity, not merely for marriage) there is 14, (16 in hong kong), so talking about how it is normal in other countries does hold sway. in canada it is 16. sure, 12 isn't 14, but the mental maturity doesnt increase exponentially between the two age. so if they do indeed wait until she is older (Which i for one hope they do, and judging from their laws it is most likely would be the cast (automatic life if he would do something now, and over 5 years if he waits for 14 before doing anything due to her being a canadian citizen rather then a chinese one)

still find it funny how if she was dating someone younger it would be alright, no matter how much she would be manipulated into doing stuff people would be fine with it, yet since he is over 20 there is such an outrage. is there really such a difference in love between a guy who is 16 and a guy who is 24 other then the fact that the guy at 24 would probably be more inclined to actually commit to a long term relationship?
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they look like a brother and sister
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