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Posted 11/21/12
I personally do not prescribe to a specific religion. I do, however, believe in not just God, but other gods, the soul, heaven, reincarnation, The Lesser Keys of Solomon, and other supernatural phenomenon. I come from a gypsy family line, some of which practiced magic and were indeed psychic, and by psychic I mean really psychic, as in you could literally have asked the location of a person they had never met before and only give them a name, and they could tell you exactly where they were at the point in time. It freaked me out all the time until, and still does really.
Coming from this gypsy lineage, I have no choice but to acknowledge the supernatural as not doing so would be feigning ignorance. From what I have seen, and believe, heaven is not really the same heaven described in the Christian faith. I personally believe heaven is more like an afterlife, as in, it is whatever you want it to be. That could be the cloud-like perfect dream world so typically applied to heaven, or something more simple such as simply being at peace. Not only this, but reincarnation, hell, and ghosts exist as well, as least I believe. Should you choose not to go the heaven after death or you have died too early, I personally believe you will instead be reincarnated. If you have sinned, and sinned really bad, not the little things people consider sins, and you do not make up for it, you will be taken to hell. Alternatively, if you die and leave behind huge regret, you wander the earth as a spirit until you can let go.
Of course, this all pure conjecture and theories I have come up with that explain the co-existence of sometimes conflicting beliefs and the paranormal. You may very well only die and your consciousness remains behind potentially also explaining near-death experiences. I suppose the only way anyone will really know if heaven exists and what form it would take is to wait until they die, and I don't know about you, but I plan on waiting a loooooooooooooong time.
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Posted 11/21/12

Morbidhanson wrote:

If heaven were perfect, it would be boring.


This.
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a wise man once said
Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today
Posted 11/21/12
Heaven can't be perfect if yaoi is forbidden.
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With Simon Drilling to the heavens i'm sure you wont be bored /o/!


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Im Buddhist so I guess my heaven would be to reach ultimate enlightenment...Until I do im reborn over and over again which makes me able to watch anime for eternity....Nigga what?! maybe ill just stay right in the middle =D
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Heaven will be paradise. I personally think that heaven will be like the Garden of Eden. It will be so perfect, we won't think twice about our interests. Maybe heaven will be whatever is heaven to each person....
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The bible is the words of God, and what he preaches. If that is not what he is saying, then is it wrong?

To your understanding they will probably be saved, that assuring. Assuming that what the Catholic church preaches is wrong, then is everybody condemned for not hearing the words of God. Are his word more important than action? There a difference from preaching it and doing it, "action speak louder than words." Isn't that what man always say. Then is God word more important than action.

Now, assuming that what the Catholic preaches is right. You said that "they are most certainly not condemned". If what you say your church believed is true, then isn't it their job to assure you when you saying the words of God that it is not interpretation? Otherwise false teaching. Which is the heavier sin? rejecting the words of God, but living life according to the Ten Commandments or a mass murder who kills under faith? According to your understanding, only those who hasn't heard the words of God might be saved. Then is it safe to assume that rejecting his words is a rejection of his teaching, and is condemned to hell. God said that by confessing your sin you will be forgiven. Then is a mass murder have a higher chance of getting into the Kingdom of Heaven than a faith rejector?
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Posted 11/21/12
How can something that doesn't exist be perfect?
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Posted 11/21/12
If when I die I do not send you a message through an anime website
then you will know...
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My question is, what is perfect? Is perfection a "one size fits all" deal, or is it relativistic? Is heaven custom made for the individual? One person's heaven could be another's hell. What then? Several heavens? Heaven with boarders? Another thing is that when we cease to be alive, we are no longer with human form and all that comes with it. I also notice that everyone here assumes that in death, all human attributes will continue on, but with no body, how could it? All the physical desires that some here have posted would not be feasible without physical form in the construct known as "heaven".

I also see here some mention "the afterlife", a construct where everything/issues in the tangible world continues on in another form. What's the point of that? What's there to look forward to if all there is is more of the same?
Posted 11/21/12
That word "Perfect" is so subjective, because what is good for you can be shitty for me.
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Posted 11/21/12

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The bible is the words of God, and what he preaches. If that is not what he is saying, then is it wrong?

To your understanding they will probably be saved, that assuring. Assuming that what the Catholic church preaches is wrong, then is everybody condemned for not hearing the words of God. Are his word more important than action? There a difference from preaching it and doing it, "action speak louder than words." Isn't that what man always say. Then is God word more important than action.

Now, assuming that what the Catholic preaches is right. You said that "they are most certainly not condemned". If what you say your church believed is true, then isn't it their job to assure you when you saying the words of God that it is not interpretation? Otherwise false teaching. Which is the heavier sin? rejecting the words of God, but living life according to the Ten Commandments or a mass murder who kills under faith? According to your understanding, only those who hasn't heard the words of God might be saved. Then is it safe to assume that rejecting his words is a rejection of his teaching, and is condemned to hell. God said that by confessing your sin you will be forgiven. Then is a mass murder have a higher chance of getting into the Kingdom of Heaven than a faith rejector?


To answer your question, you have to know this, "What is sinning?" Well since you brought up Catholicism, I'll answer your question according to their beliefs. In order for a person to actually be sinning, that person has to actually know that what they are doing (or want to do) is wrong, but they do it anyway. Now, this person could repent later and be absolved, but if they commit a sin thinking that "Well I'll just repent afterwards then I'll be off the hook", then they're wrong. The act of repentance (confession) in Catholicism is not a "free pass" to do as one wills and still gain Heaven. Technically speaking, in Catholicism, there is no guarantee that anything you do will get you into Heaven, but you can do your best in avoiding and doing certain things to possibly up your chances. Entrance into Heaven is totally dependent on the Mercy of God and the person's acceptance of His Sacrifice. Without Both, it's a no go.
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do you guys think about this . We're in 2012-13 ,heaven must be over populate since people die and stay in heaven for an eternity ,
i bet there will be no more space for us to live on . duh but if there have a little space left than in the future ,they won't have space to
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Posted 11/21/12
There is no afterlife.

Thoughts, emotions etc come from the brain, when the brain is dead, it stops producing electrical impulses... your thoughts are gone... forever.
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