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I don't know about everyone else but i can personally say i have had an out of body experience and i believe in them. When i was a child no older than 7 my dad ran over me when i slipped on ice and got stuck under the car when he was backing up. the only reason he knew i was under there was because my brothers said their was something under the car so he got out and thought it was a toy. When he saw it was me he lifted the car up and pulled me out because i was wedged between the muffler and the ground. during this i saw it all happening from above like i was watching a movie. I even told my mom about this when i came to in the hospital. So yeah i believe in out of body experience
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Aren't those similar to near death experiences where your life flash before your eyes or some shit like that?
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Posted 11/22/12 , edited 11/22/12

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The same reason billions of people believing in religion and other silly things. Just because lots of people say it's true doesn't make it true. Or maybe it's just the way our brain acts when it senses death is imminent, like that thing about your life flashing before your eyes. Lol, and are you talking about the drug DMT? 'Cause that stuff fucks you up reaaal baaad.


The big difference is that Religion isn't based on experiences, it's based on faith in something. While near death experiences are all "experiences", accounted by thousands of people. The other oddity is that, although varying slightly from person to person, there are a LOT of similarities between people.

Then you have to take into account that these similarities are being reported from people from all parts of the world. India, Japan, United States, Great Brittan, any many more. It's just too large scale for it to be a random coincidence, or a lie.

I'm not saying that there's an afterlife. I'm just contemplating on whether or not the mind can exist outside of the body for a very temporary amount of time.
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The big difference is that Religion isn't based on experiences, it's based on faith in something. While near death experiences are all "experiences", accounted by thousands of people. The other oddity is that, although varying slightly from person to person, there are a LOT of similarities between people.

Then you have to take into account that these similarities are being reported from people from all parts of the world. India, Japan, United States, Great Brittan, any many more. It's just too large scale for it to be a random coincidence, or a lie.

I'm not saying that there's an afterlife. I'm just contemplating on whether or not the mind can exist outside of the body for a very temporary amount of time.


At least it seems you got the point of the rest of what I was saying.
What I was trying to say was that it could just be a neurological event. They've already found the gland that is responsible for "religous experiences" in the brain. It could be a similar thing in this case. In fact, it might be the same gland now that I think about it. I swear I read about it somewhere... fuck my memory.
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There are going to be a bunch of knee jerk/thoughtless negative reaction to this type of information even though there is scientific evidence to the existence of this phenomenon. The same can be said for near death experiences and crop circles.

What many Atheist don't realize about themselves is that they are just as religious and as dogmatic about their own sets of scientific belief system/religion as any other religious fanatic. A religion is just a belief system.
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i dont believe in crap like out of body experience and ghosts, paranormal, etc..

her senses still function regardless.. her body experienced trauma that she might never be aware of that's why she retained memories of her operation even though she's unconscious.. her senses stored the event in her memory unconsciously..

the brain is a very mysterious organ.. its very much misunderstood but we should not jump to paranormal conclusions..
i guarantee though that the more we understand the universe, the less paranormal thoughts we have..
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her senses still function regardless.. her body experienced trauma that she might never be aware of that's why she retained memories of her operation even though she's unconscious.. her senses stored the event in her memory unconsciously..

How do the senses function if the brain is dead?

Do the senses have the ability to function apart from the brain?
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joblagz wrote:

i dont believe in crap like out of body experience and ghosts, paranormal, etc..

her senses still function regardless.. her body experienced trauma that she might never be aware of that's why she retained memories of her operation even though she's unconscious.. her senses stored the event in her memory unconsciously..

the brain is a very mysterious organ.. its very much misunderstood but we should not jump to paranormal conclusions..
i guarantee though that the more we understand the universe, the less paranormal thoughts we have..


How are my conclusions paranormal? They are just as legitimate as saying she stored information while unconscious. Except there are 4 flaws in that idea.

1: She knew exactly what the tools looked like, and the order which they used them, and exactly where they stored them when finished.

2: She had some type of brain sensor that covered the ear. "Think ear plug".

3: Her brain wasn't functioning.

4: She said specifically that she watched the operation from above her own body. I don't think she and thousands of other survivors are lying. Not about something that so profoundly changes their lives. People have changed occupations and relationships based on these profound experiences.

If all the particles of the brain were to pass through the skull, it's scientifically possible that you could be aware outside of your own head. Through a process quantum entanglement.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuf-xct2sHk It's explained at 39:50 - 44:25. You'd do yourself a favor to watch the whole video though. It's a fun watch.
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haikinka wrote:

Pffft, I don't believe in this rubbish. Even if your consciousness could transcend the brain, it would have no way of percepting it's surroundings, since our mind doesn't have eyes or ears, it's our body's senses that make that possible.


Your ears and eyes are all comprised of atoms. Just think of how bubble gum works. You blow a bubble and it expands. similarly, atoms can expand outward the same way. It's not supernatural, it's a part of physics. Who is to say that your mind cannot leave your body. It's not rubbish at all.

Did you know that radio waves can be at 2 places at the exact same time?

We know SO LITTLE about how the human brain creates consciousness. It is extremely ignorant to call this rubbish. If everyone thought like you, there would be no science and we'd still be in the dark ages.

Lastly, how can you explain the fact that thousands of people have reported having out of body experiences from being close to death? Is it the DMT? If so, how can DMT tell them exactly what is going on in the room, and the conversations that are happening.


LOL, you have no idea how information is passed electrically from nerves to the brain then. It doesn't pass like a lightning bolt through air.
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netdisorder wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Pffft, I don't believe in this rubbish. Even if your consciousness could transcend the brain, it would have no way of percepting it's surroundings, since our mind doesn't have eyes or ears, it's our body's senses that make that possible.


Your ears and eyes are all comprised of atoms. Just think of how bubble gum works. You blow a bubble and it expands. similarly, atoms can expand outward the same way. It's not supernatural, it's a part of physics. Who is to say that your mind cannot leave your body. It's not rubbish at all.

Did you know that radio waves can be at 2 places at the exact same time?

We know SO LITTLE about how the human brain creates consciousness. It is extremely ignorant to call this rubbish. If everyone thought like you, there would be no science and we'd still be in the dark ages.

Lastly, how can you explain the fact that thousands of people have reported having out of body experiences from being close to death? Is it the DMT? If so, how can DMT tell them exactly what is going on in the room, and the conversations that are happening.


LOL, you have no idea how information is passed electrically from nerves to the brain then. It doesn't pass like a lightning bolt through air, fool.


I never said anything about information being passed like lightning.

How about you contribute to the thread or kindly gtfo.

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I always find it pathetic when non-believes shoot down others by questioning their intelligence as if the belief of such things is a prerequisite to being a fool. That is just their ego defending their world view while it's falling apart.
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Axerith wrote:


netdisorder wrote:


haikinka wrote:

Pffft, I don't believe in this rubbish. Even if your consciousness could transcend the brain, it would have no way of percepting it's surroundings, since our mind doesn't have eyes or ears, it's our body's senses that make that possible.


Your ears and eyes are all comprised of atoms. Just think of how bubble gum works. You blow a bubble and it expands. similarly, atoms can expand outward the same way. It's not supernatural, it's a part of physics. Who is to say that your mind cannot leave your body. It's not rubbish at all.

Did you know that radio waves can be at 2 places at the exact same time?

We know SO LITTLE about how the human brain creates consciousness. It is extremely ignorant to call this rubbish. If everyone thought like you, there would be no science and we'd still be in the dark ages.

Lastly, how can you explain the fact that thousands of people have reported having out of body experiences from being close to death? Is it the DMT? If so, how can DMT tell them exactly what is going on in the room, and the conversations that are happening.


LOL, you have no idea how information is passed electrically from nerves to the brain then. It doesn't pass like a lightning bolt through air, fool.


I never said anything about information being passed like lightning.

How about you contribute to the thread or kindly gtfo.



Ok, here you go. All information we receive is transmitted to you brain through nerves, in the form of a tiny series of electrical impulses (ie: you touched something, or sound reached your ear) that your brain will then process. If light does not reflect off of something into your eye, you see nothing there (pure 100% black would be the case), and if a sound wave passes by you but does not go into your body or otherwise cause a vibration that reaches your ear, you will not hear it...because you don't have anything outside of your body that sends information to your brain. If you tell you actually had an out of body experience, you must have invisible nerves floating in the air and connecting to your brain. The end.
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Posted 11/22/12 , edited 11/22/12

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I always find it pathetic when non-believes shoot down others by questioning their intelligence as if the belief of such things is a prerequisite to being a fool. That is just their ego defending their world view while it's falling apart.


History repeats itself. The same was said about Darwin when he proposed evolution, and the same was said about Aristotle when he proposed that the world was a sphere.

For shit sake, there is an organization that still says that the earth is flat, despite men having witnessed the round earth from space.
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Out of body experiences are great. I used to fly to my crushes house after I had fallen asleep and somehow end up in her dreams. I told her I had dreams about her and we explained the same dreams in same detail. One of them was watching her dance in a forest. Her dress kept changing different colors and before she woke up it was white. Pretty fun stuff.
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netdisorder wrote:


-Vega- wrote:

I always find it pathetic when non-believes shoot down others by questioning their intelligence as if the belief of such things is a prerequisite to being a fool. That is just their ego defending their world view while it's falling apart.


History repeats itself. The same was said about Darwin when he proposed evolution, and the same was said about Aristotle when he proposed that the world was a sphere.

For shit sake, there is an organization that still says that the earth is flat, despite men having witnessed the round earth from space.


Yeah, it always does happen, and people just seem to fail to see and comprehend the repetition of the denial of truth throughout human history. You are supposed to learn from your patterns of mistakes.

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