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Feeling burned out on anime
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So I've cut back on anime over the past year, and now I just don't plain feel like starting new shows anymore. Not since Adult Swim started airing Tenchi Muyo GXP have I started anything new. I used to watch SKET Dance here and got pretty far up, but have since dropped it along with a bunch of other shows (Which I'd watched on FUNimation's site and Hulu). I've been a fan since the late-'90s-2000s anime boom. Seen HUNDREDS of different TV series, OVAs, ONAs, and movies. I once watched 180 different shows in the course of a single year. I've watched shounen, shoujo, seinen, josei, yuri, yaoi--everything short of hentai. Like just about everybody here, I witnessed the Great Anime Crash that started back in '07. I've plodded through good shows, bad shows, and everything in between. I used to follow up to 30 shows at a time. Now? I just can't get into much of it anymore. I've even looked back at the anime I've watched and in hindsight, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING? I've seen so many bad shows that I now regret ever wasting my time on them! And this season? I've kept up on all the news and just can't find anything that appeals to me. It all seems so unoriginal now. I now only follow 5-6 shows at a time. Before I would watch both subs and dubs. Now? I no longer have the motivation to watch subbed anime. Tried starting PandoraHearts--dropped it immediately because the subtitles are timed too fast! I should not have to pause a show just to be able to know what the fuck the characters are saying! Is just watching and enjoying an anime too much to ask? Even went so far as to cancel my FUNimation subscription because their video player kept screwing up. If they're not going to fix it, why bother? I may as well have set $8 on fire every month!

There's certain genres that are now as dead to me as disco. Ecchi, harem, VN, and moe shows (Exceptions: KyoAni's product, the Nasuverse, and a few other series) are now dead to me. Those genres are the cancer that's killing anime! They're holding the medium back. Lolicon? Get rid of it! Only in the last ten years did we finally get past the stereotype that all anime is violent tentacle porn. We don't need a fucking pedophile stain on our fandom! (For starters, FUNi can drop Dance in the Vampire Bund and apologize for ever getting that "show".) Old slice-of-life shows and period pieces set in the time before Christ a.k.a. the last half of the 20th century? Except for Kids on the Slope and a few other shows, I cannot watch them without screaming at the TV over the lack of cell phones! And speaking of cell phones, 2000s anime is already starting to show its age. Flip phones? Brick phones? How fucking obsolete! Nobody or their dog uses those anymore! I can't even look at someone using a flip phone IRL anymore without either cringing or laughing at how backward they are! Where the hell did they get their phones? A time machine set to the Bush administration? Even while watching newer shows such as SKET Dance, I keep raging every time they show a flip phone. GET WITH THE FUCKING TIMES! FLIP PHONES WERE COOL...BACK IN TWO-THOUSAND-FUCKING-FIVE! WE HAVE SMARTPHONES NOW!

I don't know if it's because I've gotten older, or my tastes have refined, or if it's the times we're living in, the fact I've been going out more and picking up chicks, a mix of these, something else, or what. All I know is that I'm burned out on anime. Many of the shows I've seen have suffered from lousy writing (Horizon, Pretear), padding/fillers (Bleach, Naruto, One Piece), cop-out endings (Ai Yori Aoshi, Inuyasha before Final Act, Trinity Blood, Tokko, et al), too much fanservice (Heaven's Lost Property, Mouse), sequels that just came too late (Inuyasha again--why couldn't Sunrise just disregard the first anime and do a total remake that followed the manga?) or just plain shitty writing (Guilty Crown, Arcana Famiglia). Who the fuck wrote this shit--Vince Russo? WHAT? Did Vince Russo write this shit? WHAT? Did Vince Russo write bad shows like Arcana Famiglia and Horizon? WHAT? Did Vince Russo put all those ungodly fillers in Bleach? WHAT? I SAID DID VINCE RUSSO WRITE SUCH SHITTY ANIME? You do not end shows without resolving loose plot threads! You do not pad shounen anime with fillers and long arcs where the heroes take 10+ episodes to fight one guy! You do not cram fillers in the middle of other story arcs! (I'm looking at YOU, Bleach!) You do not set up a show for one premise and then pull a swerve that degenerates into mindless filler! (Arcana Famiglia 3:16 says I just trolled the fans!) It's as bad as WCW after the Fingerpoke of Doom fiasco!

And then you have the Great Anime Crash itself. We've seen so many great companies die a sad, ignoble death--Geneon, ADV, Central Park Media, and now Bandai. If they didn't get all the bad anime I just mentioned, they'd still be around! If the Japanese companies hadn't been such fucking Luddites and screwed themselves and the American companies by clinging to dead business models, these companies would still be alive and well! I don't know which is sadder--this or the Montreal Screwjob! They sat there and they tried shit like Bandai Vi$ual U$A and it didn't get them anywhere! Talk about reverse importation, talk about fansubs....why can't the Japanese companies adopt OUR models instead? As long as people buy the DVDs, they still get the money! Whoever came up with the idea that American fans should pay the same as the Japanese for their anime or that Geneon and ADV should have gotten all those mid and low-tier shows that killed those companies deserves a Stone Cold Stunner off the top of a ladder!

And that's the bottom line, cus Stone Cold said so!
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Also...I have a slider phone :| I had a flip until 6 months ago
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Ehh do what you want, If you are really burnt out then stop. No point in watching if it feels like a pain. As for everything else its just life man things die off and new things start.
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@ MikiSayaka: Better a slider phone than a flip phone. I upgraded to a slider from a flip over a year ago and I'm already embarrassed to be seen with a non-smartphone slider now!

@ Piratejust: I never said I was burned out on anime altogether. Just that I don't feel like starting any NEW shows. I do re-watch other stuff. All the great stuff made before and even during the crash---if I didn't like any of it, I wouldn't have gone so far as to buy the DVDs or download it. That includes Miyazaki's films. They're great to show to someone who's new to anime--at least they won't end up believing that it's all kiddie shows and tentacle rape porn.
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So I've cut back on anime over the past year, and now I just don't plain feel like starting new shows anymore. Not since Adult Swim started airing Tenchi Muyo GXP have I started anything new. I used to watch SKET Dance here and got pretty far up, but have since dropped it along with a bunch of other shows (Which I'd watched on FUNimation's site and Hulu). I've been a fan since the late-'90s-2000s anime boom. Seen HUNDREDS of different TV series, OVAs, ONAs, and movies. I once watched 180 different shows in the course of a single year. I've watched shounen, shoujo, seinen, josei, yuri, yaoi--everything short of hentai. Like just about everybody here, I witnessed the Great Anime Crash that started back in '07. I've plodded through good shows, bad shows, and everything in between. I used to follow up to 30 shows at a time. Now? I just can't get into much of it anymore. I've even looked back at the anime I've watched and in hindsight, WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING? I've seen so many bad shows that I now regret ever wasting my time on them! And this season? I've kept up on all the news and just can't find anything that appeals to me. It all seems so unoriginal now. I now only follow 5-6 shows at a time. Before I would watch both subs and dubs. Now? I no longer have the motivation to watch subbed anime. Tried starting PandoraHearts--dropped it immediately because the subtitles are timed too fast! I should not have to pause a show just to be able to know what the fuck the characters are saying! Is just watching and enjoying an anime too much to ask? Even went so far as to cancel my FUNimation subscription because their video player kept screwing up. If they're not going to fix it, why bother? I may as well have set $8 on fire every month!

You're burned out.

Is this really surprising when you've essentially binged on something for a long period of time?


Old slice-of-life shows and period pieces set in the time before Christ a.k.a. the last half of the 20th century? Except for Kids on the Slope and a few other shows, I cannot watch them without screaming at the TV over the lack of cell phones! And speaking of cell phones, 2000s anime is already starting to show its age. Flip phones? Brick phones? How fucking obsolete! Nobody or their dog uses those anymore! I can't even look at someone using a flip phone IRL anymore without either cringing or laughing at how backward they are! Where the hell did they get their phones? A time machine set to the Bush administration? Even while watching newer shows such as SKET Dance, I keep raging every time they show a flip phone. GET WITH THE FUCKING TIMES! FLIP PHONES WERE COOL...BACK IN TWO-THOUSAND-FUCKING-FIVE! WE HAVE SMARTPHONES NOW!

Japan is not the United States.

Believe it or not, flip phones are still popular there. They aren't going to change these shows simply to appeal to your American sensibilities

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How the hell can they still keep using flip phones over in Japan? They're obsolete! For such a technologically advanced yet perverted nation, you'd think Japan would have wised up and adopted smartphones en masse like we have!

And what the hell is with the body pillows? Is Japan really that ronery of a country?
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Also...I have a slider phone :| I had a flip until 6 months ago :(


you should have made the stick figure say holy wall of text batman!! lol

but anyway, at the OP, I'm not sure what advice I can give you because I'm pretty sure my genre preferences are different than yours (and exactly the genres you hate lol)

but is only following 5 or 6 shows that bad? don't bother with subscription services then, because what we have now being offered and what will be offered by the industry in later seasons will probably not change that much
may be 1-2 shows each season that you can watch is better than nothing :/

the complaint about flip phones is just what you like, that's something you just deal with, I mean really, that's not something you should actually count as a negative
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The_Libertarian_Otaku wrote:

How the hell can they still keep using flip phones over in Japan? They're obsolete! For such a technologically advanced yet perverted nation, you'd think Japan would have wised up and adopted smartphones en masse like we have!

And what the hell is with the body pillows? Is Japan really that ronery of a country?


Ronery? Really? :|
With all the stereotypes you've been saying, I guess I should have expected that...but REALLY?
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Who would figure that if the Japanese were so perverted then why is there a population decline? That's even mentioned in a couple of anime.
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I heard there's gonna be a second season of Chihayafuru, so I'm looking forward to that.

I haven't watched any anime on here in weeks, but that doesn't mean I can't re-watch older shows. I subscribed because I didn't want to watch commercials. If I want to watch commercials with anime, that's what TV's for.

My complaints about period pieces and old anime don't just apply to anime. I've experienced the same thing with Western cartoons, live-action TV, movies, etc. It's the reason why many of the sitcoms and dramas of the '70s, '80s, and '90s no longer make sense. I may have been born late in Reagan's second term, but it doesn't change the fact that I can never go back to living in the "good old days". (Fantasy, sci-fi, and any historical fiction set from World War 2 on back are exempt from my rage.) If I had the option of reliving the real '90s or living in the '90s equivalent of a Renaissance faire, I'll take the fake version. I can't live without cell phones or the Internet! Life without it may as well be the Dark Ages! The lower technology, the backward social values--I cannot live like that!
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tl;dr

Quite simply: watch what you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it stop watching. If you're burned out, take a break. It pays to have multiple interests and hobbies. It keeps you from getting bored.

Great Anime Crash? No such thing.
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whoa o_o didn't bother reading but....

by the title I can tell u that yes, finding a good show is tedious (I've had to drop about 40% of wat i decide to watch)
u really SHOULD just watch anime when u WANT to....it's not a race to finish as much eps as possible lmao.
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deadpanditto wrote:

tl;dr

Quite simply: watch what you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it stop watching. If you're burned out, take a break. It pays to have multiple interests and hobbies. It keeps you from getting bored.

Great Anime Crash? No such thing.


YAH it did.

FUNimation survived because they didn't make the mistakes of the other guys: Licensing too many shows (ADV, Geneon), charging Japanese prices for American releases (Bandai Visual), or overpriced box sets (ADV, Geneon). ADV and Geneon both picked up too many titles at once. Geneon picked up bad shows like Hanaukyo Maid Team, Amazing Nurse Nanako, and other stuff that didn't sell. ADV got a bunch of low and mid-tier shows--IIRC, they once got 70+ shows in a single year. They released most of these titles, but some wound up just rotting (Sgt. Frog had 16 or so different dubs which all lagged in development hell). Geneon and ADV planned a joint distribution deal. The deal fell through. Geneon shut down right away. ADV never recovered and died slowly. Their Japanese licensing partner Sojitz yanked 30+ titles and handed them to FUNi. ADV was in such debt that they had to split up into four smaller companies (Sentai was already a separate company). FUNi's gotten plenty of old ADV and Geneon stuff, but they also had their big cash cow to stave off the crash: Dragon Ball Z.

CPM was moribund, ultimately going bankrupt. BVUSA failed thanks to their retarded pricing scheme. And now Bandai's gone. Urban Vision's moribund. Manga hasn't licensed a new TV anime in years, only picking up movies instead. Media Blasters got some bad shows, but as long as they've got Kenshin and their live-action stuff, they should be OK. AnimEigo's moribund and mostly does live-action films.
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Never in my life have I ever felt burnt out on anime.

The primary reason is I switch between gaming and anime.

Another fact is, with all the anime I've seen shitty ones and good ones, there has n ever that perfect anime. This has lead me to seek for that one anime that will be picture perfect, in a way I don't feel like I can burn out of anime.

I /rage at protagonists though.
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The_Libertarian_Otaku wrote:


deadpanditto wrote:

tl;dr

Quite simply: watch what you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it stop watching. If you're burned out, take a break. It pays to have multiple interests and hobbies. It keeps you from getting bored.

Great Anime Crash? No such thing.


YAH it did.


I'll grant there have been issues. Sure there were a number of companies that behaved idiotically in a competitive market. That stupidity put them out of business. Fortunately, many of the licenses have been rescued by other companies; unfortunately, not all. In the meantime, we've seen a lot of growth in other areas including legalized streaming. So, I think calling it the Great Anime Crash over plays the event. But, I understand that's your impression.


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