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This forum doesn't seem that active the question about "what graphics card should I get" or "which computer for gaming" comes up a lot and I'm wondering if anyone would appreciate some kind of guide on computers, builds, specs, and smart buying in general.
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Posted 11/29/12

kyonkunsuzumiya wrote:

This forum doesn't seem that active the question about "what graphics card should I get" or "which computer for gaming" comes up a lot and I'm wondering if anyone would appreciate some kind of guide on computers, builds, specs, and smart buying in general.


Hey I could actually use a little help, basically I have been working my ass off trying to save enough money by for a new build. The one I am using at the moment is almost dead and no joke I am using a actual desktop fan to keep the CPU from overheating. Now price on the actual PC itself isn't a problem I don't have a max limit on how much I want to spend just yet. This computer i want to build has to be able to play all new/future games perfectly and would be able to multi-task like rendering videos and what not. So far the Components i was thinking of getting are:

I7 3770k 3.5ghz
Asus P8z77-M: MICRO-ATX, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI CrossfireX (Not sure about motherboards)
8GB Dual DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2GB AMD RADEON HD7870 Graphics Card
1TB SATA HDD hard drive
Corsair 750w Enthusiast series Power supply
Corsair H40 hydro CPU cooler
Creative sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Windows 7 64 bit

Any criticism is appreciated, I am not 2 computer savey and this was just a recommended build.
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Posted 11/30/12
money range?
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Posted 11/30/12 , edited 11/30/12
this might not be the place where you buy a computer but use these forums, alot of helpful people will help you and give suggestions, i suggest you give them a money range and tell them your new to computer building

http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode=section&forum=191

you can see what i own by visiting my profile.
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Posted 12/1/12

BTSpaniel wrote:

this might not be the place where you buy a computer but use these forums, alot of helpful people will help you and give suggestions, i suggest you give them a money range and tell them your new to computer building

http://forums.ncix.com/forums/?mode=section&forum=191

you can see what i own by visiting my profile.


Appreciate it mate, I guess I wouldn't want to spend over 1400 euros. That would probably be the maximum.
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Posted 12/2/12 , edited 12/2/12

Tophatjames wrote:


kyonkunsuzumiya wrote:

This forum doesn't seem that active the question about "what graphics card should I get" or "which computer for gaming" comes up a lot and I'm wondering if anyone would appreciate some kind of guide on computers, builds, specs, and smart buying in general.


Hey I could actually use a little help, basically I have been working my ass off trying to save enough money by for a new build. The one I am using at the moment is almost dead and no joke I am using a actual desktop fan to keep the CPU from overheating. Now price on the actual PC itself isn't a problem I don't have a max limit on how much I want to spend just yet. This computer i want to build has to be able to play all new/future games perfectly and would be able to multi-task like rendering videos and what not. So far the Components i was thinking of getting are:

I7 3770k 3.5ghz
Asus P8z77-M: MICRO-ATX, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI CrossfireX (Not sure about motherboards)
8GB Dual DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2GB AMD RADEON HD7870 Graphics Card
1TB SATA HDD hard drive
Corsair 750w Enthusiast series Power supply
Corsair H40 hydro CPU cooler
Creative sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Windows 7 64 bit

Any criticism is appreciated, I am not 2 computer savey and this was just a recommended build.


This doesn't look too bad. I would get a full size ATX motherboard (ASUS has good reputation btw), and drop the H40 for H100, Coolermaster Hyper 212 Evo, or Noctua NH-D14 (high end). H40 is crap.

750W power supply is overkill for this build, and you could get away with 450-500W from a good manufacturer.

Sound card: Do you need it? Motherboards come with built-in sound cards.

If price really is no issue then switch the Radeon HD7870 for Radeon 7970, GeForce GTX670, or GeForce GTX680, where 670 < 680 <= 7970. (7970 has a bit more raw speed)
and also add in an SSD.

A computer like this is going to be expensive x.x Especially if you want video rendering power from the i7 3770K as well as uber gaming power

EDIT: Oh 1400 euros? That's like $1800... if you could link the website you're shopping from that would be really useful ^^
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Posted 12/3/12 , edited 12/3/12
Hey thank you for replying the website that i can only find that will deliver to me is http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/. I live in the middle of no where in Ireland so its pretty hard to find a good site. This one seems pretty good though.
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Hey thank you for replying the website that i can only find that will deliver to me is http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/. I live in the middle of no where in Ireland so its pretty hard to find a good site. This one seems pretty good though.


Something like this then? I noticed that they only sell assembled computers but I guess you're fine with that.

http://puu.sh/1wViZ <-- picture of configuration

= £1089.17 ex VAT

£1307 inc VAT and Delivery

The HAF 912 case is relatively inexpensive and good, so I clicked on that. Another case I would suggest is Fractal Define R4 (sound dampening features), but really the case should be your own preference; choose what looks cool ^^ Just don't choose a cheap one. (Look at HAF 912 and above)

16GB of RAM cuz you said you render videos, but you could get 8GB instead and go for 7970 or GTX680 graphics card if you would rather have that extra power for games.

You can change the 1TB Green HDD for 1TB Black HDD (it's faster but more expensive, but for mass storage it doesn't make a huge difference. Your important programs and OS will be on the SSD)
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Posted 12/4/12 , edited 12/4/12
i would get the most future proof pc i could get, example: i used the site you listed

Case
COOLERMASTER HAF 922 MID TOWER GAMING CASE -- i would get a full size tower case. mids are still abit cramped, ps. i thought this was a full

Overclocked CPU
OVERCLOCKED AMD FX-8150 (3.60GHz @ max 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
ASUS® SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 (DDR3, USB3.0, 6Gb/s, CrossFireX/Sli)
Memory (RAM)
16GB KINGSTON HYPER-X GENESIS DUAL-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P (4 x 4GB KIT)
Graphics Card
3GB AMD RADEON™ HD7950 - DVI,HDMI,2 mDP - DX® 11, Eyefinity 4 Capable
Free Item Free Item
FREE FARCRY 3, SLEEPING DOGS & HITMAN with AMD HD 7950/7970 GPUs!
Memory - 1st Hard Disk
120GB INTEL® 520 SERIES SSD, SATA 6 Gb/s (upto 550MB/sR | 520MB/sW)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)
1st DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
10x BLU-RAY ROM DRIVE, 16x DVD ±R/±RW
Memory Card Reader
INTERNAL 52 IN 1 CARD READER (XD, MS, CF, SD, etc) + 1 x USB 2.0 PORT
Power Supply
CORSAIR 750W ENTHUSIAST SERIES™ TX750 V2-80 PLUS® BRONZE (£86)
Processor Cooling
Corsair H100 Hydro Series High Performance CPU Cooler (£89)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND (£9)
Fan Controller
NZXT Sentry 2 Fan Controller with upto 5 Fitted Case Fans
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar D2X - Masterpiece Audio Card for Home Theater (£82)
Network Facilities
10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT - AS STANDARD ON ALL PCs
USB Options
6 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL (MIN 2 FRONT PORTS) AS STANDARD
Operating System
Genuine Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit w/SP1 - inc DVD & Licence (£109)
Office Software
NO OFFICE SOFTWARE
Anti-Virus
NO ANTI-VIRUS SOFTWARE
Warranty
3 Year Silver Warranty (1 Year Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
(£5)
12/4/12 Quote From pcspecialist.co.uk
pcspecialist.co.uk/form/print.php 2/3
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 9 to 11 working days
Quantity 1

Price:
£1145.83 ex VAT.
£1375 inc VAT and Delivery.
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Posted 12/4/12

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Truthfully, the config in my last post is the same or better than yours for less money, except you added some more bells and whistles and stuff like BluRay and Fan Controllers...

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this is how i price my computers on the website you gave me
$0-$2000 AMD
$2000+ Intel and Nvidia
or where deals apply, the computer web site i use has deals every week, so i cant really compare to the one you showed me.


AMD = Great "bang for buck"
Intel = The most powerful processors available "Money Whores"

I would Personally Get a AMD Processor and a NVidia Graphic's Card but the site you gave me wont allow you to do that.

The site i use is: NCIX.CA
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Dude's from Ireland, NCIX doesn't deliver overseas -.-
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Posted 12/5/12 , edited 12/5/12

Tophatjames wrote:

Hey I could actually use a little help, basically I have been working my ass off trying to save enough money by for a new build. The one I am using at the moment is almost dead and no joke I am using a actual desktop fan to keep the CPU from overheating. Now price on the actual PC itself isn't a problem I don't have a max limit on how much I want to spend just yet. This computer i want to build has to be able to play all new/future games perfectly and would be able to multi-task like rendering videos and what not. So far the Components i was thinking of getting are:

I7 3770k 3.5ghz
Asus P8z77-M: MICRO-ATX, USB 3.0, SATA 6GBs, ATI CrossfireX (Not sure about motherboards)
8GB Dual DDR3 1600MHz RAM
2GB AMD RADEON HD7870 Graphics Card
1TB SATA HDD hard drive
Corsair 750w Enthusiast series Power supply
Corsair H40 hydro CPU cooler
Creative sound blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio
Windows 7 64 bit

Any criticism is appreciated, I am not 2 computer savey and this was just a recommended build.

From what I can see, you've got a fair set-up drawn up. A couple suggestions.

- Get a full ATX mobo
- Get at least 10-12GB of RAM instead (This will help with Multi-tasking more and with Video Editing/3D rendering.)
- nVidia GPU's are more geared towards Artists that dabble in Video, Graphics, and 3D (That's been my experience)
- PSU you is a good choice, try looking for high certified models for better power efficiency. (i.e. 80+ "Gold Certified")
- Is your home an oven? Instead of a water cooler get a decent air-flow case and replace the stock CPU heatsink for an aftermarket one) Cooler Master makes some good options for the money.
- I imagine the soundcard is to help with your Video rendering? If your simply looking for sound that's not onboard audio, try out the cheaper Audigy series.

Tom's Hardware is a great place for looking up information and they have a page where they do custom builds within a certain price range. Also, try out Newegg.com. I believe they ship international as well.

Cheers!

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Someone posted that 750w PS was "overkill". THERE'S NO SUCH THING!! When it comes to PS there is no such thing. The more power the better, it reduces load and draw which keeps your comp cooler and saves you money on electric bill. Splurge on your PS you won't regret it. And it makes upgrading later so much easier. You'll already have extra power to spare. Get a nice modular PS and you'll never have to worry.
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Uh yeah...

Should get a bigger PSU if you know you're going to upgrade with a second graphics card... but at the same time it wouldn't be good to get a 750W/850W/1000W PSU (which is definitely overkill for almost everyone, you gotta agree with me on that), never upgrade, and waste your money.
That's IF OP can find a shop that sells individual parts that ships to where he is.

BTW that website's power supplies start at like 650W. You can SLI two GTX670's with that, easily. (Helps that 670 is relatively efficient)
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