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Nearly all Harem Genres Sucks
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That reminds me, "Girls Bravo" Is on sale in the CR store... brb.
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Don't ask me for a free pass, get a job loser.
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True, i agree with everything the op wrote, i can't stand how unrealistic those harems are. I would much rather see the main guy die of lung cancer and get attention, better yet be coughing up blood and shit, thank you very much.
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Hiatus
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Kikusui10 wrote: xCrimsonEX wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Kikusui10 wrote: xCrimsonEX wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Kikusui10 wrote: dacan13 wrote: Why so much hate on Ecchi/Fan service? If your a guy, and say you don't like boobs, your either lying or gay. (Though gay people probably like them too) If it's a show, targeting the male crowd what can they do to make it more interesting? Boobs. Sick of Fan Service? Watch a cute Romance anime, that's what i do.. Are you seriously that naive? People hate on it because it takes the seriousness out of the anime. This should be even obvious to kids. Some animes manage to still pull off a good story line, but most end up as 90% porn. This highly depends on your idea of fan service. Not to mention in certain cases its more realistic to have it than not. Say you have two females fighting (which by some people's standards in itself is fan service which it is not) with swords. Is it 'serious' for them to slash and nothing gets shown? No, its not but yet anti-fan service people whine about it. Grow up and watch the story instead of getting on your moral high ground and saying it takes away from the story. I can enjoy Freezing as much as I enjoy Fate/Zero (or any other toned down fan service oriented anime). Its true in some cases it would make more sense if some clothes got ripped or something, but what im talking about is the full-on hentai style. When its almost solely based on showing breasts and panties, it makes the anime lacking in the serious department. Also regarding "Freezing". I tried to watch it, but because of the incredible amount of fanservice i couldnt really get into it. I enjoy fanservice, but too much is too much. Still people are different, so i dont blame you if you are not bothered by that fact. This is why we have different genres, because we all like and dislike different things. I'll just reiterate that fan service doesn't reduce the quality of a work unless you really focus on it. I can see panties, breasts, or w/e and still enjoy the story of the anime. "This is why we have different genres, because we all like and dislike different things." This is my agitation with anti-fan service people in general. Pro-fan service people typically don't say anything but the anti-fan service pitch a fit over it and don't realize that they can either a) move on to another genre/series or b) get over it and enjoy the story without whining over what they don't like. Yes and there we have it. The problem is there when they really focus on it, and thats what many of them do. Anyways im not anti-fan service. Infact i think addding fanservice can make a show a lot better in some cases. Its just when it takes over the story line that its a bother. Oh and yea i agree some people dislike it too much. Im just trying to have an open discussion, converse and share interests. Well I wasn't really aiming specifically at you for being 'anti-fan service' just pointing out the imbalance. I don't really mind if a show is fan service oriented as long as it has a core story that intrigues me. Dakara Boku wa, Ecchi ga Dekinai and High School DxD being two examples, in my opinion. |
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As a phantom I drift here and there always seen remembered by few
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i find harems to be funny sometimes but some times it just gets boring
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Kikusui10 wrote: dacan13 wrote: Why so much hate on Ecchi/Fan service? If your a guy, and say you don't like boobs, your either lying or gay. (Though gay people probably like them too) If it's a show, targeting the male crowd what can they do to make it more interesting? Boobs. Sick of Fan Service? Watch a cute Romance anime, that's what i do.. Are you seriously that naive? People hate on it because it takes the seriousness out of the anime. This should be even obvious to kids. Some animes manage to still pull off a good story line, but most end up as 90% porn. And why is that a bad thing? Does every anime gotta be serious? If they were people would be mad because they were. |
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Gotta Rewatch Amagami SS
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dacan13 wrote: Kikusui10 wrote: dacan13 wrote: Why so much hate on Ecchi/Fan service? If your a guy, and say you don't like boobs, your either lying or gay. (Though gay people probably like them too) If it's a show, targeting the male crowd what can they do to make it more interesting? Boobs. Sick of Fan Service? Watch a cute Romance anime, that's what i do.. Are you seriously that naive? People hate on it because it takes the seriousness out of the anime. This should be even obvious to kids. Some animes manage to still pull off a good story line, but most end up as 90% porn. And why is that a bad thing? Does every anime gotta be serious? If they were people would be mad because they were. Nope its not necessarly bad. I just explained thats why people hate on it. Imagine your looking for an adventure/supernatural anime, then it gets ruined by fan service. This is what happens in most of those cases, which then leads to hate. Im fine with it in some cases, but mostly i want to watch animes that have a serious story line. |
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( -_・) ︻デ═一 ▸ (✖╭╮✖)
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As much as I think this is just a thread for the OP to have whined over I'll respond to his points directly:
Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide For most harem anime, the main character (who obviously has to be a person with a penis) is a sissy boy. Most of us would hate the main character because he is not interesting at all and he doesn't act cool. He's just this typical generic nice guy who gets all nervous and crap when he see's a girl naked or anything ecchi. I'm not saying all main characters of harem anime are like this. But most of them are. Like 95% of it! Probably some of you know the anime "Hidan No Aria" and hated it. But I liked it because the main character is pretty darn cool. And it's about harem as well. Yay. It's rare to see a cool main character in an anime. Because to engage a person in an anime is to actually make the main character likable. But no...harem genres usually throw one of the crappiest and pathetic protagonist at us! 1) Weak male center-point: As I stated before not every guy in the world is a tough guy. They're mixed bag of personalities however most of the time its easier to resonate with a weaker character than a stronger one. To be honest though this could all be in your head as traits you see as weak aren't weak by my standards. I can honestly say if I walked in a female, besides getting something thrown my way, I'd probably lock up myself so I expect no different from an anime male. Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Generic ecchi bullshit. To be honest, anime has to realize that if I wanted to see an animated girl naked, I would be watching hentai by now. So why throw this crap it? Big breast, cleavage, upskirt, nude scenes...they have it. Except for they don't show the nipples or vagina because it would be considered hentai instead and won't be shown on television. The anime provides so much of this that it's not even that fun watching anymore. I just wanna see the plot progressing. Oh wait I forgot, there is no plot. It's all about a bunch of girls who wants to sit on the main character's dick. Yeah. Such a generic plot. Fan service or Ecchi: Honestly just grow up. If you get so distracted by anything in the show that you can' t see the story then honestly maybe you should put it aside for a few years. You seem to have misunderstood 'hentai' as its not about nudity its about sexual content And as I've said before and will say again and again big breasts =/= fan service. Obviously you haven't seen many harem animes if you think its all about the females wanting the male lead as thats not the case.Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide The scenes are way too cliche. It was so typical on what's going to happen. I'm gonna tell you what usually happens in a harem anime. Girl and boy about to kiss? Gets interrupted. Girl is nude or "private parts" are exposed for some stupid reason and the protagonist is just there to see it. Girl falls on top of the guy. Happens way too much in all harem... Girl gets angry at protagonist for doing something sexual with another girl. All girls fall for the main character. I can list hundreds of these. But I'm way too lazy. Moving on. Cliche scenes: And what genre doesn't have these? And extend this to what medium doesn't have things that are akin to cliches? Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Plot is pretty damn stupid and doesn't even try hard enough because their main focus is to show us anything ecchi. Maid scenes. Shower scenes. Loli scenes. All this bullshit. They do their best to set up anything that would lead to something sexual. For freak sake, if I wanted to see something sexual I would be watching hentai by now. You kiddin me!? Plot being stupid or for fan service's sake: The plot varies from anime to anime but usually has something good about it. As far as certain events happening, its not the real world its the story's world so get over it. And again if you refer to any of these scenes in the same regard as hentai then you really need to grow up some. Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide And last...the characters. Harem genres do their best to provide some of the characters that meet up to a pervert's fetishes. For example, the character with gigantic breast that weighs heavier than truck. These sort of characters are usually thes one rubbing their breast on the protagonist's face. Next we have the tsunderes. I hate these characters because they appear in so much in anime. It's pretty much the girl who gets easily angry over something so stupid and can't express their feelings for the main character properly. Screw tsundere's, they're not even interesting. Then we have the emotionless girl. Usually these sort of girls don't even care if the protagonist does anything sexual with them and provides us with sarcastic jokes. These are just some examples. There is more to it. Characters: They are supposed to vary and represent various personalities. Do they appeal to some people's particular liking? Sure, but this doesn't change that the types exist. I'll take a tsundere over any other type any day of the week. In conclusion, I'd suggest you move on to another genre (though you'd probably just whine about that one too). |
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As a phantom I drift here and there always seen remembered by few
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I have enjoyed some of those type of shows they can be fun to watch depending story line.
your title dose not speak for all fans thank you. |
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