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Reverse racism happened to me a few times, kinda strange concept.


reverse racism? getting a benefit due to race?



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No such thing as "reverse racism." It's just plain ole racism. Back in the day at the university (and I'm sure they're still at it right now), the radicals pushed the redefinition of terms such that for all practical purposes, only white people could be labelled "racists"-- which is nonsense. Racism is an equal-opportunity sin, and every race is capable of it. Some folks just want their brand of racism deemed acceptable or even justified while condemning others.

Anyway, as an Taiwanese-American (or Asian-American more generally), it happened a fair bit when I was a kid, and even as an adult it occasionally pops up. As a kid, it tended to be much more mean-spirited, while in my adult years, it stems more from lack of insight and is rarely if ever malicious. Somewhat radicalized myself after my college years, I used to get offended each time it happened (repeat after me, "I'm shocked and outraged that [insert grievance here]...")-- now, I don't let it bother me. Ironically, the most common "racial stereotype" (if you can call it that) I get nowadays is from Chinese people assuming I can speak Chinese and trying to sell me something. (I can speak Chinese in fact, somewhat-- but here in America, my home, unless you're a foreign visitor or recent immigrant, I expect to be addressed in English.) A distant second is someone assuming I have insight into the Chinese (or Asian) point of view on such-and-such current event, and asking me to provide it. Naturally, I've no idea, other than what I might read online (like anyone else), what Chinese people think about Obama, or North Korea, or whatever.
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No such thing as "reverse racism." It's just plain ole racism.
Back in the day at the university (and I'm sure they're still at it right now), the radicals pushed the redefinition of terms such that for all practical purposes, only white people could be labelled "racists"-- which is nonsense. Racism is an equal-opportunity sin, and every race is capable of it. Some folks just want their brand of racism deemed acceptable or even justified while condemning others.

Anyway, as an Taiwanese-American (or Asian-American more generally), it happened a fair bit when I was a kid, and even as an adult it occasionally pops up. As a kid, it tended to be much more mean-spirited, while in my adult years, it stems more from lack of insight and is rarely if ever malicious. Somewhat radicalized myself after my college years, I used to get offended each time it happened (repeat after me, "I'm shocked and outraged that [insert grievance here]...")-- now, I don't let it bother me. Ironically, the most common "racial stereotype" (if you can call it that) I get nowadays is from Chinese people assuming I can speak Chinese and trying to sell me something. (I can speak Chinese in fact, somewhat-- but here in America, my home, unless you're a foreign visitor or recent immigrant, I expect to be addressed in English.) A distant second is someone assuming I have insight into the Chinese (or Asian) point of view on such-and-such current event, and asking me to provide it. Naturally, I've no idea, other than what I might read online (like anyone else), what Chinese people think about Obama, or North Korea, or whatever.


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My opinion too. but I thought I'd ask for clarification from the poster.

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tommythecat wrote:

Reverse racism happened to me a few times, kinda strange concept.


reverse racism? getting a benefit due to race?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

Think of it like being passed over for a job because a company had to maintain quotas because of affirmative action.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


tommythecat wrote:

Reverse racism happened to me a few times, kinda strange concept.


reverse racism? getting a benefit due to race?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_racism

Think of it like being passed over for a job because a company had to maintain quotas because of affirmative action.


So... Racism.



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If you think of affirmative action as racist sure. It was established for a purpose but it has spurred reverse discrimination against the majority or perceived majority race to in turn not be seen as discriminatory against minority race or gender.
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If you think of affirmative action as racist sure. It was established for a purpose but it has spurred reverse discrimination against the majority or perceived majority race to in turn not be seen as discriminatory against minority race or gender.


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We;; as a black man from birmingham, Alabama, It's sad to say I have never exp any kind of racism until I went to explore the world a bit. Most of my sterotyping came mostly from whites but it wasn't bad I think of it as not knowing much about blacks and wanting to know. It's actually pretty funny I live in two different states (Alabama, georgia), I have visited like 15 states in the us, and been to two different countries(S.korea, and England) and most of the racism I exp was in the United States. Am I racist? yes but it not bad racism , I just prefer the company of black people over any other race(All thought I hang with online mostly asians and whites). I like all race and don't judge anyone base of their race but I prefer to be around blacks more then anything else.
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papagolfwhiskey wrote:


tommythecat wrote:

If you think of affirmative action as racist sure. It was established for a purpose but it has spurred reverse discrimination against the majority or perceived majority race to in turn not be seen as discriminatory against minority race or gender.




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Please don't put words in my mouth. Affirmative Action serves (served? I won't get into it's current utility or it's method of being applied) a valid function in countering systemic and concealed racist policies.

'Reverse Racism' or 'Reverse Discrimination' however is just some weird fancy clothes to make racist action against against the so called majority group seem more palatable.


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Please don't put words in my mouth. Affirmative Action serves (served? I won't get into it's current utility or it's method of being applied) a valid function in countering systemic and concealed racist policies.

'Reverse Racism' or 'Reverse Discrimination' however is just some weird fancy clothes to make racist action against against the so called majority group seem more palatable.




I have no idea why you are making a mountain out of a molehill with this discussion as far as I'm concerned you are arguing semantics so we are done here.
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Responding from phone. touched the wrong part of the screen.

Please don't put words in my mouth. Affirmative Action serves (served? I won't get into it's current utility or it's method of being applied) a valid function in countering systemic and concealed racist policies.

'Reverse Racism' or 'Reverse Discrimination' however is just some weird fancy clothes to make racist action against against the so called majority group seem more palatable.




I have no idea why you are making a mountain out of a molehill with this discussion as far as I'm concerned you are arguing semantics so we are done here.


Okay...

I honestly didn't know. and when it was explained to me. It just sounded like what I described it as. No need to take it personally.

And there is no such thing as MERE semantics. Words have power.

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Okay...

And there is no such thing as MERE semantics. Words have power.

I honestly didn't know. and when it was explained to me. It just sounded like what I described it as. No need to take it personally.



Reverse discrimination isn't just a fancy word used against a majority. What I was saying was because of anti racist policies the reverse effect can be true in some cases. That has nothing to do with targeted racism against that majority race it's just a word used to describe the effect and it's an unattended consequence of affirmative action which is in place for federal workers.
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Just because my skin is dark does not mean I am African-American. I am NOT from Africa! I was born an American citizen, neither me nor my parents were born in Africa and emigrated to America!

I'd rather be called Black or Black-American if you wanted to put me in an ethnic group. I believe that is the crux of all black stereotyping.
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Reverse discrimination isn't just a fancy word used against a majority. What I was saying was because of anti racist policies the reverse effect can be true in some cases. That has nothing to do with targeted racism against that majority race it's just a word used to describe the effect and it's an unattended consequence of affirmative action which is in place for federal workers.


It's still systemic racism IMO, and still racial stereotyping. You're White so you've got no problems. Go somewhere else, you may have done nothing wrong but you have to pay for wrong doings in another time in place because your skin is the same colour as those wrong doers there and then.

how is that not ... Racism? Please note I'm not trying to be a dick about this. I just honestly don't understand why it needs a special word to pretty it up.

Note also that I'm I don't really have a dog in this fight, so to speak. I can claim membership in a couple of different minorities that are protected from discrimination by my country's constitution, my Provinces Civil rights code, my employer's HR policies and my Union Contract. I'm not complaining about this because it's bitten me in the rear.
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If you think of affirmative action as racist sure. It was established for a purpose but it has spurred reverse discrimination against the majority or perceived majority race to in turn not be seen as discriminatory against minority race or gender.


This has been the topic of more well established debate for years. I doubt that Crunchyroll forums is the most productive place to have a debate on this topic. I also do not think racism is on topic with a thread about stereotyping. The two are completely separate.
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