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Shooting at elementary school
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Posted 12/14/12
I know people die everyday but targeting a elementary school where they are just babies is unthinkable and unimaginable. They didn't even have a chance to live and grow up. Very terrifying and disturbing!
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Men stabbing kids and shooting them, people killing their parents, trolls trolling a thread like this...........All humanity has not failed but were not succeedind, thats for sure.
Posted 12/14/12 , edited 12/15/12

Gyava wrote:

You can't just teach every teacher Krav Maga. You can't just go around firing elderly teachers who are unable to fight either. If you're such a well trained martial artist, you'd obviously know that your martial arts is useless against a gun unless by a miracle - the gunman decides to walk close to you. Besides, these are teachers, not people who go to the gym everyday to stay fit in case of a terrorist attack. I've been going through MMA and Krav Maga longer than you have, but that's going to do both of us no good at all once bullets get riddled into our skulls.

I like your idea of security guards though. A plan of implementing guards into schools doesn't sound that bad. However, this is Earth. It is filled with humans, and a lot of corrupt humans at that. A perfectly disguised psychopath could very well act like a complete nice and sane person to become a guard to kill children in the school. No matter how many screens and background checks we run, all we are left with is data such as clean high school records and no criminal records during adulthood.

No idea can solve the matter of keeping children safe to a 100% success rate. There will always be a defect.


You would train them on how to get all the children and other teachers to safety. They don't necessarily have to be trained to be Black Belts. It would just be tactical defense training for an active shooter situation. I wasn't talking about hand-to-hand combat training because you obviously can't take a gun away from the shooter unless a miracle happens. Also, I think that, if teachers want, they can have the option to be licensed to carry a firearm.
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Posted 12/14/12
More information about Adam Lanza and his family's background has been coming out.

It boggles my mind that Adam Lanza's mother made the decision to keep several high powered guns in her home when she had a mentally unstable 20 year old son who people have now described as a "ticking time bomb" living with her.
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There is nothing in the entire universe that can justify what that bastard did, and be a coward and kill himself in the end. Not even rotting in hell will be good enough to give him what he deserves.

I agree that there absolutely needs to be stricter gun control. There are too many loopholes in the system that allows these monsters to get access to them, and there's apparently no background check being done on them?!

The amount of young lives that were stolen/destroyed is absolutely heartwrenching. There aren't enough words that can describe how horrible of a situation it is especially being soo close to Christmas.

My thoughts and condolences to all the families affected by this tragedy
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DyTonic wrote:

There is nothing in the entire universe that can justify what that bastard did, and be a coward and kill himself in the end. Not even rotting in hell will be good enough to give him what he deserves.

I agree that there absolutely needs to be stricter gun control. There are too many loopholes in the system that allows these monsters to get access to them, and there's apparently no background check being done on them?!

The amount of young lives that were stolen/destroyed is absolutely heartwrenching. There aren't enough words that can describe how horrible of a situation it is especially being soo close to Christmas.

My thoughts and condolences to all the families affected by this tragedy


You have a great point. We need to explore a persons life before we can throw them guns especially ones of this caliber. I dont understand how he was able to get the guns even if he did register them in his mothers name. These are military high caliber rifles and pistols. Not to be sexist but how did a middle aged kindergarden teacher be able to buy these type of guns. Those pistols are not common for self defence needless to say neither is the ar-15 and the m-16. There is a special place in hell for people who can cause such pain to other people.
heres one of the parents that got some bad news.


I hate this guy so much.


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Extremely sad.. If I were a parent in that position, and I got a phone call saying my child isn't coming home, I'd be crying my eyes out. ..I feel really bad, too, since the kids didn't get to have a job, get married, have their own kids...
/becomesanoverprotectiveparentinthefuture
You can't blame me, now I'm worried and depressed. ;O;//
Posted 12/14/12

Jdaimond wrote:


DyTonic wrote:

There is nothing in the entire universe that can justify what that bastard did, and be a coward and kill himself in the end. Not even rotting in hell will be good enough to give him what he deserves.

I agree that there absolutely needs to be stricter gun control. There are too many loopholes in the system that allows these monsters to get access to them, and there's apparently no background check being done on them?!

The amount of young lives that were stolen/destroyed is absolutely heartwrenching. There aren't enough words that can describe how horrible of a situation it is especially being soo close to Christmas.

My thoughts and condolences to all the families affected by this tragedy


You have a great point. We need to explore a persons life before we can throw them guns especially ones of this caliber. I dont understand how he was able to get the guns even if he did register them in his mothers name. These are military high caliber rifles and pistols. Not to be sexist but how did a middle aged kindergarden teacher be able to buy these type of guns. Those pistols are not common for self defence needless to say neither is the ar-15 and the m-16. There is a special place in hell for people who can cause such pain to other people.
heres one of the parents that got some bad news.


I hate this guy so much.




Whoever took that picture was a dick.
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Posted 12/14/12

karmacide wrote:


Jdaimond wrote:


DyTonic wrote:

There is nothing in the entire universe that can justify what that bastard did, and be a coward and kill himself in the end. Not even rotting in hell will be good enough to give him what he deserves.

I agree that there absolutely needs to be stricter gun control. There are too many loopholes in the system that allows these monsters to get access to them, and there's apparently no background check being done on them?!

The amount of young lives that were stolen/destroyed is absolutely heartwrenching. There aren't enough words that can describe how horrible of a situation it is especially being soo close to Christmas.

My thoughts and condolences to all the families affected by this tragedy


You have a great point. We need to explore a persons life before we can throw them guns especially ones of this caliber. I dont understand how he was able to get the guns even if he did register them in his mothers name. These are military high caliber rifles and pistols. Not to be sexist but how did a middle aged kindergarden teacher be able to buy these type of guns. Those pistols are not common for self defence needless to say neither is the ar-15 and the m-16. There is a special place in hell for people who can cause such pain to other people.
heres one of the parents that got some bad news.


I hate this guy so much.




Whoever took that picture was a dick.


There was a lot of pictures and most of the people there that didnt lose a child was kinda chilling, drinking some coffee and LAUGHING (not about the incident but still, how could you laugh at a time like that). I can see how someone there would take advantage of a person when there in dispair

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Byakuya386 wrote:

You can't just teach every teacher Krav Maga. You can't just go around firing elderly teachers who are unable to fight either. If you're such a well trained martial artist, you'd obviously know that your martial arts is useless against a gun unless by a miracle - the gunman decides to walk close to you. Besides, these are teachers, not people who go to the gym everyday to stay fit in case of a terrorist attack. I've been going through MMA and Krav Maga longer than you have, but that's going to do both of us no good at all once bullets get riddled into our skulls.

I like your idea of security guards though. A plan of implementing guards into schools doesn't sound that bad. However, this is Earth. It is filled with humans, and a lot of corrupt humans at that. A perfectly disguised psychopath could very well act like a complete nice and sane person to become a guard to kill children in the school. No matter how many screens and background checks we run, all we are left with is data such as clean high school records and no criminal records during adulthood.

No idea can solve the matter of keeping children safe to a 100% success rate. There will always be a defect.


You would train them on how to get all the children and other teachers to safety. They don't necessarily have to be trained to be Black Belts. It would just be tactical defense training for an active shooter situation. I wasn't talking about hand-to-hand combat training because you obviously can't take a gun away from the shooter unless a miracle happens. Also, I think that, if teachers want, they can have the option to be licensed to carry a firearm.


Oh, I see. Sorry, I took it the wrong way. I thought you meant the teachers were to be trained in hand to hand. Giving them a license is not a bad idea, I think, if they also pass a test in accuracy. In my opinion, there is a big difference in just giving random teachers guns (because they could lose confidence in an actual attack and fail to protect the children) and giving guns to teachers who know how to shoot and have confidence in protecting the school.
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I can't believe this happened; why are there so many shootings in the U.S. now? There must be a reason all these crazies are starting to show up more...
Those poor parents, those poor kids; I can't even imagine the pain and fear they must've felt when they were told their child was SHOT TO DEATH
It makes me think: why even have kids? (I'm speaking concerning myself, not others.) I worry what if a similar fate is theirs, but then again, that's completely out of my control, no matter where I go...

It'd be nice if they could catch these crazies before they do these kind of things, but it's nearly impossible. The so-called "warning signs" are exhibited by a lot of people with mental illness that have NO intention of doing this. So what are you going to do? Lock up all these unfortunate people just to find the rare killer? It's not practical or fair. And even worse, when presented with someone that is REALLY off their rocker, people will often turn a blind eye or think nothing of it. New rules won't change anything, because if someone wants to do something, they'll find a way, no matter what. I think people need to become more observant, especially people in these types of situations (teachers, professors, anyone working with children, etc.).
Posted 12/14/12
The problem is most serial killers function like everyday people, you can't really tell them apart from ordinary people... until they start killing.
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To everyone who thinks that gun violence is on the rise here in the states, your wrong. Statistically speaking it is on a decline.
Violence exists everywhere. Some places more often than others.

Yes, some people took a tool and ended many lives. It happens every year.
I lost my very friend to one of these tools no less than 4 weeks ago. Do I blame the tool? No. I blame the person.
I had my life threatened with a gun by some punk who no later than a week shot his best friend 6-8 times with a .45.
This best-friend he shot was my customer for 3 years.
I have lost several family members to punks in gangs down in Cali.

Not once did I blame or have hate towards the tool used. I blamed and hated the user of the tools.

A tragedy happened. Feel for the loss that happened. Don't direct unnecessary emotion to the tools used.
Why? Because it is simple. If somebody is out to kill somebody, they will use any tool available to do it. The more people they want to harm, they will use any tool that will make that happen.


I feel for those kids, I really do, I feel for the loss the parents will have to live with. I feel for the loss the community will have. This will haunt them for 3 or so months, then time will start their healing.
Posted 12/14/12 , edited 12/15/12

Gyava wrote:

Oh, I see. Sorry, I took it the wrong way. I thought you meant the teachers were to be trained in hand to hand. Giving them a license is not a bad idea, I think, if they also pass a test in accuracy. In my opinion, there is a big difference in just giving random teachers guns (because they could lose confidence in an actual attack and fail to protect the children) and giving guns to teachers who know how to shoot and have confidence in protecting the school.



It's no prob. I sometimes don't understand what people mean, either.

The license would be to carry a firearm on school premises. They have to get a Concealed Handgun License, or CHL, first like every other average person who carries a firearm, which already includes an accuracy test. This license would be one for teachers and administrators to carry a firearm on school premises where everyone else with a CHL can't carry their firearm.

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Okay it's very sad and terrible, but it keeps happening folks. The legal system doesn't really deter people from committing these unspeakable crimes anymore. Let's be realistic there are a lot of very twisted people subsiding within society, they may never act out on their cogitations, but wouldn't it be more intelligent to have harsher and quicker penalties set in place to deal with crimes and serve as a deterrent? Not everyone can be saved or reformed, nor should they be. There is something to be said for Hammurabi's code. Honest and good people would be safe and a strong legal system would deter "evildoers".

"One is often guilty by being too just"...Pierre Corneille
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