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Is lying by Omission the same as telling an outright lie?
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Depends on the context.
Give an example, and I'll give you an answer.
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No.
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both are dishonest
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I don't think they're the same, but the context of the lie, and the intention of the one lying/withholding information also matter.

I'll give an example, which I only found out about after my ex-wife and I had divorced.

While living with my family, my family and I were funding her studies in a phlebotomy program, which included an internship at the nearby military base. At one point during her internship there, my mother had noticed she wasn't wearing her ring, and asked about it. The response my mother got was this: "I took it off, because if some handsome serviceman notices me, I wouldn't want the ring to scare him away." My mother was livid, but she also abhors lying with a passion. She wasn't going to tell me about it unless I knew to ask, or after the inevitable divorce.

Bearing in mind that she wasn't working, hadn't looked for a job in over a year, wasn't asked to help around the house, and her only obligation was to get me back and forth to my grandmother's, where I was acting as a live-in caretaker half the week... Had I known about this back then, I would have kicked her out on the spot, but my divorce would have been a lot worse for me than it was.
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So basically telling half-truths? Technically, you are not lying, but the overall effect is the same as an outright lie, as it is giving a false impression.
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It must be, because according to some legal courts proceedings, if you omit a piece of information on purpose, you get the same punishment for lying about something.
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CLarose wrote:

both are dishonest


Wow, you so smart.
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Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.
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Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.


And you can judge that. No. You're doing what you think is best, learn the difference.
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Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:

Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.


And you can judge that. No. You're doing what you think is best, learn the difference.


Okay. Cool. I'll let you go to the 5 year old who is just learning how to spell, and tell them "Hey, remember Grandma? How nice she was? Yeah, well, she is dead. Gone forever. Part of life I'm afraid. Time to grow up." Just wait til the kid is old enough to understand more of life. That's all I'm saying.
Posted 12/16/12

Hopeless_dreamer wrote:


Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:

Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.


And you can judge that. No. You're doing what you think is best, learn the difference.


Okay. Cool. I'll let you go to the 5 year old who is just learning how to spell, and tell them "Hey, remember Grandma? How nice she was? Yeah, well, she is dead. Gone forever. Part of life I'm afraid. Time to grow up." Just wait til the kid is old enough to understand more of life. That's all I'm saying.


Ever seen how lions teach their cubs? Can you prove that's wrong. No. Shut up then.
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It depends on context, but in general, yes, as an outright lie and lying by ommission are both intended to deceive.
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Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:


Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:

Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.


And you can judge that. No. You're doing what you think is best, learn the difference.


Okay. Cool. I'll let you go to the 5 year old who is just learning how to spell, and tell them "Hey, remember Grandma? How nice she was? Yeah, well, she is dead. Gone forever. Part of life I'm afraid. Time to grow up." Just wait til the kid is old enough to understand more of life. That's all I'm saying.


Ever seen how lions teach their cubs? Can you prove that's wrong. No. Shut up then.


You need to relax. It's just a random debate on an internet forum. Neither of us are right. It's up to the parent.
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Hopeless_dreamer wrote:


Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:


Riesel wrote:


Hopeless_dreamer wrote:

Depends on a subject. Don't want to tell a little kid that their relative died. Just something like they went away for awhile until they are mature enough to handle the truth.


And you can judge that. No. You're doing what you think is best, learn the difference.


Okay. Cool. I'll let you go to the 5 year old who is just learning how to spell, and tell them "Hey, remember Grandma? How nice she was? Yeah, well, she is dead. Gone forever. Part of life I'm afraid. Time to grow up." Just wait til the kid is old enough to understand more of life. That's all I'm saying.


Ever seen how lions teach their cubs? Can you prove that's wrong. No. Shut up then.


You need to relax. It's just a random debate on an internet forum. Neither of us are right. It's up to the parent.


Hes just trolling. Keeps making profiles after he gets booted and trolls whoever the last poster is on random threads. Pay no attention to the troll under the bridge.
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