First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  Next  Last
Is lying by Omission the same as telling an outright lie?
3082 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M
Offline
Posted 12/25/12
You aren't lying. You just aren't telling everything there is to tell. Now if someone asks you if you told them everything, and you say you did, NOW you're lying.
21096 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
24 / M
Offline
Posted 12/25/12

papagolfwhiskey wrote:

I should hope so. I think arguing weather a lie is a lie or not. is pointless. But I think there is real meat to what I think the is REAL question.

which I parse out as: Does Honesty ALWAYS REQUIRE 'full disclosure'?



Mostly I was saying it's a lot because I kind of want to discus but not all at once, it was getting too long.

I think the problem with those questions is they imply the same thing, but only because the thought of a lie or dishonesty in general comes with the idea that these things are always bad. So yes, it might be that full disclosure is required for honesty but honesty isn't always required or always good.
43300 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
F / West
Offline
Posted 5/18/13
Skirt around the truth so much, might as well do a dosey doe... pardner.
Sogno- 
21302 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 5/18/13
omission, as in, "did you steal the cookie that was there 2 hours ago" and instead saying yes you say nothing, OR you say, "i ate one yesterday" rather than saying you ate one today. The latter case you would be telling a half truth, you did eat the cookie yesterday, but you're implying that you didn't eat one today.

In the former case, not speaking at all, it's not a lie, but in the latter case, it is the same as an outright lie. Lies require some dialogue.
7038 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Texas
Offline
Posted 5/18/13
Jean-luc Picard said it best. "A lie of omission is still a lie."

He's right. If you know something to be true, yet do not tell someone about it, it is still considered a lie.

People will make up reasons for lying such as sparing the feelings of someone or something along those lines. While some such things are socially accepted, they are still lies.

The case was presented in an episode of Star Trek: TNG when Wesley gave a recounting of an accident in space. The inclusion of one key point was avoided and he tried to argue that he was still telling the truth. While he did in fact not directly tell a lie, he still hid key facts that directly contributed to the accident occurring in the first place. Keeping all the facts from someone, whether it be a court of law or from a friend or family member, still skews their understanding of the event. In this instance, Wesley purposely misled Capt Picard and the board of inquiry as to exactly what happened during the accident.

Consider this. If someone goes out and cheats on their significant other and the spouse suspects they are being cheated on, they may ask the cheating partner "Have you slept with anyone else?" The partner may say "No, I have not," but in this case they may be answering the question in a literal sense. Sure, they may not have actually fallen asleep with someone else, but they very well may have had sex with them. Again, the cheating partner did not lie, but could anyone really consider this to be true?
21455 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
20 / M / Delaware
Offline
Posted 5/18/13 , edited 5/18/13
No, that's implying that lying to someone that a suspect has/hasn't committed a crime (when you know they didn't/did) is tantamount to not saying anything at all.

Lying by omission isn't as detrimental as flagrantly lying.
20087 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
23 / M / SoCal, HB
Offline
Posted 5/19/13 , edited 5/19/13
1. What if you're unsure the information if its relevant?
ex.
Guy1, "Why didn't you tell me she was a he!!"
Friend, "I didn't think you'd care"

2. What if the information arrives late?

ex. The earth is the center of the universe

- omission due to ignorance, would that be a lie?
Sailor Candy Moderator
163264 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
25
Offline
Posted 11/20/13
Closed due to inactivity. Its been over 6 months and no new posts. Locked.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.