I think that girls are attracted to the bad boys because they think that the bad boys are exciting and the nice guys are going to be boring my guess. I'm nice but at the same time some friends tell me i can get away with being a bad boy.

You can't really draw a line between what good and bad are.

To each their own, a good man may be a bad man-- vice versa.

wow makes alot of since put that way.

Woman, through very crude terms are generally attracted towards jerks, the 'alpha male'. This is explainable in our genetic structure as a male displaying more alpha qualities attracts females as this alpha male holds greater potential for relationship security, stability and sexual reproduction.

People who doesn't respect themselves, can't be expected to want respect from other people. That goes both ways, folks.

I think its because girls look for approval in a guy. So some like to date shit heads so they can gain approval of feel like they acheived approval over and over again after being treated like shit. Another example would be when a guy hits his girfriend she crys and wants him to feel bad for what he did so he will feel bad for her and kiss her and say sorry and hold her so he can see what he did. Its call it abusive cheap love for approval lol. I like nice dudes because their fukin nice. A nice dude does everything right most of the time. Also some girls and woman feel like the mans masculane because he beats her which is twisted. In other words some girls are masicists lol i forgot how to spell it. Any ways hope this makes sense.

You said it all! That sums it all up.

It is very possible to be not only a nice guy but also not take shit from people. People have glimpsed into the main problem with this particular type of question though.

What is a "bad" guy and a "good" guy?

If by your definition in your original post (I read through the first four pages) a "bad" guy is defined as a person who cheats and abuses his significant other and inversely a "good" guy would lack those aforementioned qualities then the solution is actually very simple. Setting aside masochism, no one wants to be abused or cheated on so the only viable solution would be that women don't know who the bad guys are until its too late.

however... I would say there needs to be a better definition.

If we are discussing the philosophy of "bad" and "good" I would assume we are using the normal arch types. With that being said Plato explains the being a truly "good" person is rare and a huge feat to accomplish. A lot of people claim to be "good" however in some way or another fall short to a degree. I would assume that given the opportunity most people would choose the "bad" route due to their own human nature (or apatite). Bad and good in our social dynamic are mainly used as labels describing a person who has done bad, where good is the person who has yet to do bad. At the end of the day we all fall short of perfection so I would say that the only truly good people are the ones who continually strive for perfection and to do good.

TL;DR You asked why do women fall for the bad guys because there's a 90/10 problem here.

SideBar - Nice guy is not synonyms with submissive.

They might think the "mean guys" might protect them which most of the time is the opposite

Before asking why some women go for "bad" men, I think you should first think about how the woman is like instead of the man. For instance, does she have a sweet personality? Is she caring, and if so, how often does she show it?

The truth is, a lot of woman match themselves up with bad guys because they themselves are bad. And I know that a lot of people will argue "but there's no way she could do that!" and such, but trust me. This may not exactly apply to your situation, but it's true. Women can be just as bad as men - sometimes, they're even worse. Most of them are just better at hiding it, and society's belief that women are fairly innocent makes it all the easier.

I don't know, I'm just speaking from experience. A friend of mine (who I've been crushing on for a while now) is a "nice guy," however he got into a relationship with a girl he thought was cute and thoughtful. In reality, though, she was a major jerk - but my friend didn't know that. He just kept pining over her. Eventually, she got into a relationship with a "bad" guy and my friend's been angsting over her ever since.

It pisses me off. It pisses me off so much that even I consider abandoning my like for nice guys and settle with a mean one. In my opinion, nice guys care a bit too much. They believe that they can save everybody and often ignore things that are right in front of them. I've been openly admiring my friend for years now, but all he can think about is that one girl who doesn't even deserve him. The line between "nice" and "foolishly idealistic" is really slim, and a lot of guys don't realize when they've crossed it. When they do, girls just tend to give up on them and would rather be with a mean guy who at least knows who he is and what he wants to do.

I have a split personality. I can be nice or mean when ever I desire to be. Some girls prefer my nice innocent side, while the rest like my bad-ass meanie side. Really does depend on the girl because their all different.

Three posts and a poll crying about how ALL women pick abusive shit-bags over self-proclaimed nice guys? Harsh warranted.

Ding ding ding on the unrealistic expectations! Abundant both here and in the real world. Unrealistic Expectation #1 is that some chick is going to stay with you because you think you're nice.

I don't know how healthy wishing divorce and single-parenthood on your exes is bwahahaha, but... aww shit, I just realized I DO laugh at my cheating scumbag exes and their divorces and single-parenthood... damn. My counterargument is now invalid. XD Shit man, sometimes you look back and you realize the best thing someone ever did for you was break up with you.

I think not focusing on the past but instead learning from your mistakes is probably a bit mentally healthier... but far be it for me to verbally shank someone in hopes of preventing them from becoming a future emotional cripple contentedly blaming others for their failures instead of accepting their own faults and progressing forward... ...oh wait...

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I try to live by a philosophy of wish an 'enemy' a happy life FAR from mine. Still the temptation to shadenfrued especially in the case of someone whom you feel has done you wrong is strong. The more so when you can point to their own behaviour and believe they reaped what they have sown.

because we think we can change them and make them loyal and be a nice guy to US and only us.

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