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Obama wants you to take your guns before he implodes the economy.
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Once again.. Can't be arsed watching the whole video but I got the gist.

If Obama decided to go all evil super villain today and attack the US population he would most likely win.

Look, you can have all the guns you want, but he has tanks, drones and fighter aircraft. No contest.

I don't really care anymore at this stage though.
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Unnecessary panicking.

If a kid throws a rock at another kid's head, the solution isn't to give all kids rocks.
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Posted 12/22/12

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Unnecessary panicking.

If a kid throws a rock at another kid's head, the solution isn't to give all kids rocks.


exactly...you give them helmets
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No worries. However badly he might want to establish himself as dictator, historically speaking, successful dictators come from the military. Obama does not. Ergo, based on historical precedent, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to become a dictator, even by manipulating public opinion and gun laws. Gotta give him credit for trying, though! (Come on! It's not like we from the military have forgotten that immediately upon taking office, the Justice Department of the then newly-elected President declared that all prior service members were to be considered "potential domestic terrorists." Yep, go serve your country--and get rewarded by having your name automatically placed on airport "watch-lists." Frickin' great, huh?)
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No worries. However badly he might want to establish himself as dictator, historically speaking, successful dictators come from the military. Obama does not. Ergo, based on historical precedent, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to become a dictator, even by manipulating public opinion and gun laws. Gotta give him credit for trying, though! (Come on! It's not like we from the military have forgotten that immediately upon taking office, the Justice Department of the then newly-elected President declared that all prior service members were to be considered "potential domestic terrorists." Yep, go serve your country--and get rewarded by having your name automatically placed on airport "watch-lists." Frickin' great, huh?)


Double standard. All the prior service members were serving their country diligently, but all Obama wants to do is become a dictator. Surely if you believe that even the president is capable of abusing his position, prior service members are not free and clear of suspicion either.
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moonhawk81 wrote:

No worries. However badly he might want to establish himself as dictator, historically speaking, successful dictators come from the military. Obama does not. Ergo, based on historical precedent, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to become a dictator, even by manipulating public opinion and gun laws. Gotta give him credit for trying, though! (Come on! It's not like we from the military have forgotten that immediately upon taking office, the Justice Department of the then newly-elected President declared that all prior service members were to be considered "potential domestic terrorists." Yep, go serve your country--and get rewarded by having your name automatically placed on airport "watch-lists." Frickin' great, huh?)


Double standard. All the prior service members were serving their country diligently, but all Obama wants to do is become a dictator. Surely if you believe that even the president is capable of abusing his position, prior service members are not free and clear of suspicion either.


I think it's more logical and realistic to suspect the motives of an individual rather than of an entire (and rather large) group. . .
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This clip is ridiculous grandstanding. Being able to upload videos to YouTube doesn't make one trustworthy. I have a couple of clips too, and not only do I trust the sources, they're also funny.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-22-2012/indecision-2012---president-evil
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-february-22-2012/indecision-2012---president-evil-2
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Riiight, becouse Obama has done so much to regulate guns.
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Riiight, becouse Obama has done so much to regulate guns.


Yeah not to mention operation Fast and Furious where the guns intentionally ended up in drug cartel hands, with the purpose of tracking where they went and yet they lost track of them.
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moonhawk81 wrote:


staphen wrote:


moonhawk81 wrote:

No worries. However badly he might want to establish himself as dictator, historically speaking, successful dictators come from the military. Obama does not. Ergo, based on historical precedent, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to become a dictator, even by manipulating public opinion and gun laws. Gotta give him credit for trying, though! (Come on! It's not like we from the military have forgotten that immediately upon taking office, the Justice Department of the then newly-elected President declared that all prior service members were to be considered "potential domestic terrorists." Yep, go serve your country--and get rewarded by having your name automatically placed on airport "watch-lists." Frickin' great, huh?)


Double standard. All the prior service members were serving their country diligently, but all Obama wants to do is become a dictator. Surely if you believe that even the president is capable of abusing his position, prior service members are not free and clear of suspicion either.


I think it's more logical and realistic to suspect the motives of an individual rather than of an entire (and rather large) group. . .


All of the things happening in this country in such rapid succession just hit me as a pre apocalyptic scifi scenario in real time.Laws being changed w/o the people's interest or opinion being considered,tainted elections,monitored movement and communications of civilians-pretty scary.Labeling ex-military as potential terrorists implies the gov't may be up to something they may not approve of-they would make very troublesome freedom fighters.Being the foreign relations kiss ass that he is,I see Obama as having his sites set on the UN rather than worrying about the US in the future.He has plenty of time to topple our system from within w/o claiming another title.
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moonhawk81 wrote:


staphen wrote:


moonhawk81 wrote:

No worries. However badly he might want to establish himself as dictator, historically speaking, successful dictators come from the military. Obama does not. Ergo, based on historical precedent, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to become a dictator, even by manipulating public opinion and gun laws. Gotta give him credit for trying, though! (Come on! It's not like we from the military have forgotten that immediately upon taking office, the Justice Department of the then newly-elected President declared that all prior service members were to be considered "potential domestic terrorists." Yep, go serve your country--and get rewarded by having your name automatically placed on airport "watch-lists." Frickin' great, huh?)


Double standard. All the prior service members were serving their country diligently, but all Obama wants to do is become a dictator. Surely if you believe that even the president is capable of abusing his position, prior service members are not free and clear of suspicion either.


I think it's more logical and realistic to suspect the motives of an individual rather than of an entire (and rather large) group. . .


All of the things happening in this country in such rapid succession just hit me as a pre apocalyptic scifi scenario in real time.Laws being changed w/o the people's interest or opinion being considered,tainted elections,monitored movement and communications of civilians-pretty scary.Labeling ex-military as potential terrorists implies the gov't may be up to something they may not approve of-they would make very troublesome freedom fighters.Being the foreign relations kiss ass that he is,I see Obama as having his sites set on the UN rather than worrying about the US in the future.He has plenty of time to topple our system from within w/o claiming another title.


Sadly, I agree. But a people get the government they're willing to tolerate, so the fault lies with those who prefer victimhood to freedom.

[All governments feed off their own people--the best governments as mere parasites; the worst, ravenous carnivores. . .]
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I'm not sure Obama can become a dictator, the judiciary would not allow it. A dictator has absolute power, he makes laws and those laws are unchallenged, in the US you can challenge laws through the judiciary which you believe are illegal, or unlawful. If the judiciary agrees with you that the laws being brought in are unlawful then they can reject them, Obama would need to control the judicial process before he could break it, but get this, he can't, it's a basic tenement of a democracy (though the US isn't a democracy but that's another debate) is that the state and the judiciary are separate, usually kept on 3 levels (state, executive, legislative) which is designed in such a way to prevent any one level having too much power (the state cannot control the executive or legislative etc.)

As for gun laws, what is the point in owning a gun? "oh, criminals own guns so we should do too" is the cry of the pathetic. I live in the UK which has pretty strict gun controls (not as strict as Japan though) and our gun crime is pretty low. But lets do some nice statistics.

In England and Wales in there were 41 murders from firearms (total). In Japan there were 11, puts the total population of these two countries at around 200m. Now lets look at the US. 9,146. If there were no firearm related murders in the US and Japan and the UK continued at their current rate, it would take 156 years for their combined rate to equal the US's tally.

In other words, more people die in a year in the US due to firearm related murder than die in Japan in 831 years (or 223 years in the UK). In the 831 years it takes for Japan to catch up to the US's figure, 7.6 MILLION Americans would have died, not a nice figure when you think about it like that, is it?
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Lexxuk wrote:

I'm not sure Obama can become a dictator, the judiciary would not allow it. A dictator has absolute power, he makes laws and those laws are unchallenged, in the US you can challenge laws through the judiciary which you believe are illegal, or unlawful. If the judiciary agrees with you that the laws being brought in are unlawful then they can reject them, Obama would need to control the judicial process before he could break it, but get this, he can't, it's a basic tenement of a democracy (though the US isn't a democracy but that's another debate) is that the state and the judiciary are separate, usually kept on 3 levels (state, executive, legislative) which is designed in such a way to prevent any one level having too much power (the state cannot control the executive or legislative etc.)

As for gun laws, what is the point in owning a gun? "oh, criminals own guns so we should do too" is the cry of the pathetic. I live in the UK which has pretty strict gun controls (not as strict as Japan though) and our gun crime is pretty low. But lets do some nice statistics.

In England and Wales in there were 41 murders from firearms (total). In Japan there were 11, puts the total population of these two countries at around 200m. Now lets look at the US. 9,146. If there were no firearm related murders in the US and Japan and the UK continued at their current rate, it would take 156 years for their combined rate to equal the US's tally.

In other words, more people die in a year in the US due to firearm related murder than die in Japan in 831 years (or 223 years in the UK). In the 831 years it takes for Japan to catch up to the US's figure, 7.6 MILLION Americans would have died, not a nice figure when you think about it like that, is it?


I congratulate you on your nation's low firearms-related murder rate. Honestly, I do. However, I must kindly invite you to keep your statistics away from my rights. Rights, I might add, that I spent 8 years in uniform protecting, including the right of my fellow citizens to disagree with me. . .
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Posted 12/22/12

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Muppe wrote:

Riiight, becouse Obama has done so much to regulate guns.


Yeah not to mention operation Fast and Furious where the guns intentionally ended up in drug cartel hands, with the purpose of tracking where they went and yet they lost track of them.


Yupp, what is next? Give them drones so they can track... I mean lose track of those aswell?
Any more regulation from Obama and all will have a family tank.
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