My point exactly.

lol we americans are like home school kids who are socialy confused and awkward once we leave our home. For those of you who live in other countrys please take into acount that we americans have a big country with a wide variety of states and sometimes we hate each other.


Like New Jersey .... those people are annoying

Colorado, however is awesome and the only annoying people came from California

But in all seriousness we are all going to have "Idiots"

Okay one malapropism that I keep seeing here that's starting to bug me. The USA and Canada are nations that have a CIVIC nationalism not an ETHNIC one. There is no Canadian or American RACE.

Therefore

While it may be Bigoted and Prejudicial and Inflammatory, no amount of negative stereotyping against Canada, the US or anyother nation based on a civic nationalism can be called RACIST.

people can be unpleasant, ugly and even wrong on this thread about the US. but the only Racist comment was the one called the US all "Jewish lovers" as if it was a bad thing.

Let's not confuse individual loudmouths with national policies and societal trends. We all have some idiots, but if those idiots are large and in charge we're going to be tarred with their brush.

haha all I know is that most of the canadians I have met can keep up with me at party's where as many americans cannot! XD

That's not me anymore. nowadays thanks to age and diabetes I can get a hangover from a bag of potatoe chips. but back in my army days...

I'm sure you could throw down in the good 'ole days! Haha. I can act mature all I want but at heart i'll always be punk kid!

18 until you die?

but we're getting off topic. hmmm on topic.

in previous posts I've said my bit about American "arrogance". I've alluded to american 'igorance' at least as regards my own country. I've specifically attacked the 'We won world war II so the rest of the world owes us" fallacy.

what else is there to discuss.. ah...

American selfishness/altruism.. and perhap's more on the rest of the world's "Ingratitude"

All nations act in the self interest of the State and those who run it. If the state is some sort of despotism it's probably being run into the ground in the interest of those who run. If there is some mechanism by which those who run the state are answerable to the people then economic, military and social interests of the state as a whole might be addressed. In this regard EVERY nation, the US included and NO OTHER NATION EXCLUDED is selfish.

So. bitching about America as a nation doing things that are not in your country's interest in order to secure it's supply of oil or to protect it's citizens abroad or to keep what it considers important allies happy... Is HYPOCRITICAL. Your country is doing the same. just perhaps not as loudly or as successfully.

Conversely, all these claims of altruism an behalf of the US are so much BS! The US does what it does because it appears in the mind of it's leaders to be in the best interest of the State. Period. It's not out of the goodness of it's heart.

As the Empire of the Day the US has touched much less lightly on other nations than the Romans or the Spanish or even the British in their days in the sun. (So says someone who remains a bit of an Anglophile)

So... while The world had much less to be 'grateful' about than many Americans think is the case. It's hardly the 'evil empire' either.

make of that what you will.

I often wonder which one is prevalent, is it our Ignorance or Arrogance?

The one can fuel the other. It's easy to be arrogant when you don't know any better. It's more likely that you won't try to learn any better if you believe you don't have to.

Does that also apply to people in general?

yes, that's what I meant.

Ignorance and Arrogance are not a uniquely American trait. But yes the average American I meet comes across as woefully under informed about the world outside his narrow concerns. Of Course I've meet a very large number of Canadians about whom I can say the same. the difference is The average Canadian knows more about the US than any American seems to know about Canada. Which in turn can simply be argued as a demonstration of our relative importance to each other.


Edit

In short, you can afford to ignore us. We cannot Ignore you.

No, concur whole heartedly, since your Canadian. We were just really ticked with you when your dollar value was better than ours.

A wise Polish philosopher once said "Once you label me, you negate me."

You're Ticked? We're an Exporting Nation. and you're are biggest trading partner. It's hard to export when your stuff is not 'on sale' A weak CDN Dollar was GOOD for our economy.