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swordstyle wrote: 1)Their relationship was not consecrated over a mayonnaise sandwich. That would imply that Asuna gave Kirito a sandwich, at which point Kirito instantly fell in love and decided she would be his wife. Their bond was forged over time through the actions and good intentions of one another. You know, like actual relationships. And what? I described their relationship credulously? What exactly did I believe too easily? It's an anime. What you see is what you get. I get that kids your age like using big to words to seem more intelligent, but if you don't know what they actually mean, it has the opposite effect. 2)A tsundere is a girl who starts off cold and warms up later. Whether it's in her nature or she had bad experiences is irrelevant. The end result is the same. 3)Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Which was in response to the person who claimed that Ryota instantly became a bad ass once he assessed the situation. Most people will bite, scratch, and kick when backed in to a corner with no other options. Self preservation is a basic human instinct. Which is exactly why he doesn't formulate strategies and just wings it when he has to through most of the series. 4)Don't be ignorant. I never claimed ratings meant everything. Don't put words in my mouth. However, ratings do indicate how many people are watching a series. And more people watching generally means that show is pretty good. And given the astounding ratings of SAO, that's saying something. 1) Obviously I was making a joke about how superficial their relationship is, thought someone as clever as you would get it. You also misunderstand the second part of that quote, why did I say credulously? Your words: "The whole romance without touching thing is a played out, and simply stupid theme present in about 95% of the hundreds upon hundreds of anime I have seen over the past 25 years. Every time we see romance in an anime it goes like this:" Heres more: "What you see is what you get." Credulous - having or showing too great a readiness to believe things. Clearly your not credulous, I'm just trying to use big words to look intelligent.  2) Well if you want to use the most general definition, sure, she's a tsundere. But most people would argue that tsundere is a personality trait where someone ACTS cold and hostile but underneath really cares and are usually fawning. A contradiction between actions and feelings. Himiko truly believed that men were evil and not to be trusted, so IMO she wouldn't be considered a tsundere. 3) I think you're being harsh and nitpicking at his post which is why I responded. When he said ''when he (Sakamoto) realizes he has to kill to survive'' and "glad he isn't a sissy'', you ridicule him. Nowhere in his post did he say, ''Sakamoto ACCEPTS that he must kill to survive'' but you accuse him of such. I agree with him because when the situation is dire, he does ''grow a pair'' and kill, when necessary, instead of run. And are you trying to undermine my statement by saying Sakamoto fought because it's basic human instinct and most people would have done the same? As if. Fight or flight situations, most people choose flight. 4) "Don't be ignorant." "Don't put words in my mouth." You should heed your own advice. I wasn't saying that you believe ratings = quality. I just found thought it was funny that you added that in there, because if that were true than Naruto or Bleach would be Masterpieces. The only reason I didn't go into detail why SAO is so BAD, is because there's a laundry list of shit to write down, but someone so aptly did that on another thread so I will post in here for you if you're interested, ciao. Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide |
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Waterst1 wrote: tehstud wrote: The only reason I didn't go into detail why SAO is so BAD, is because there's a laundry list of shit to write down, but someone so aptly did that on another thread so I will post in here for you if you're interested, ciao. SAO is certainly not original by any means but it is certainly not BAD. The only reason it got nit-picked to death is because it is such a successful and popular series. IMO, both BTOOOM and SAO are very good series. We can enjoy them for what they are, or nit-picked both of them to death. Truly, I don't understand the mentality of focusing on highly popular series to tear them apart. Don't like them, just move on and find something we like, instead of showing hate just because others like them. I don't go around bashing popular shows, so you're post is irrelevant. Secondly, how can you say it's getting nit-picked to death? Nit-picking is finding minute faults to criticize. Please read the list that I posted under the spoiler and see if those are just meaningless faults founded by some hater. And I think most people with good taste in anime would agree that SAO was a piece of overhyped garbage that is only popular because it panders to every fetish out there. I couldn't even enjoy the series past the first few episodes, but I digress. Since SAO is SO good, I'm sure you could give valid reasons as to why it isn't BAD instead of throwing around accusations. Edit: Please note that I'm not the one who brought SAO into the subject, merely responding to someone's opinion. |
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tehstud wrote: I don't go around bashing popular shows, so you're post is irrelevant. Secondly, how can you say it's getting nit-picked to death? Nit-picking is finding minute faults to criticize. Please read the list that I posted under the spoiler and see if those are just meaningless faults founded by some hater. And I think most people with good taste in anime would agree that SAO was a piece of overhyped garbage that is only popular because it panders to every fetish out there. I couldn't even enjoy the series past the first few episodes, but I digress. Since SAO is SO good, I'm sure you could give valid reasons as to why it isn't BAD instead of throwing around accusations. Edit: Please note that I'm not the one who brought SAO into the subject, merely responding to someone's opinion. I quoted you since you quoted from a thread that was nit-picking the series. The only reason it need to justify that it's good, for me anyways, is that it entertained me. Anytime anyone goes through the trouble of listing all the flaws of a series however minor, especially a very popular series, they're doing nothing more than nit-picking. It is irrelevant if the points are valid or not. Name me any series in the past decade or the past two decades, and I'm sure I can apply most of the same arguments towards any one of them with exactly those points listed by you or those from the other threads. I won't claim and never would claim that SAO is the absolute best. It doesn't even come close to it and will never be 1 of my favorites. Regardless, comparing it to the countless anime series out there, I'd still deem it to be very good and 1 of the best from last year. You are of course entitled to your opinions but name me 1 series from last year that you think was great and I'm sure I can nit-pick it to death as well. And I think most people with good taste in anime would agree that SAO was a piece of overhyped garbage that is only popular because it panders to every fetish out there. So you're implying that anyone who doesn't think it's over-hyped garbage has poor taste? I can just as easily come up with vague catch-all statement like that and regard those detractors as haven't poor tastes. But that would have been just as silly since everyone have their own tastes and preferences. Yours is no better than anyone else. It's just different. To say otherwise is just being arrogant and having a "I'm better than you because I like this and hate that" attitude. |
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tehstud wrote: 1)Clearly your not credulous, I'm just trying to use big words to look intelligent. 2) Well if you want to use the most general definition, sure, she's a tsundere. But most people would argue that tsundere is a personality trait where someone ACTS cold and hostile but underneath really cares and are usually fawning. A contradiction between actions and feelings. Himiko truly believed that men were evil and not to be trusted, so IMO she wouldn't be considered a tsundere. 3) I think you're being harsh and nitpicking at his post which is why I responded. When he said ''when he (Sakamoto) realizes he has to kill to survive'' and "glad he isn't a sissy'', you ridicule him. Nowhere in his post did he say, ''Sakamoto ACCEPTS that he must kill to survive'' but you accuse him of such. I agree with him because when the situation is dire, he does ''grow a pair'' and kill, when necessary, instead of run. And are you trying to undermine my statement by saying Sakamoto fought because it's basic human instinct and most people would have done the same? As if. Fight or flight situations, most people choose flight. 4) You should heed your own advice. I wasn't saying that you believe ratings = quality. I just found thought it was funny that you added that in there, because if that were true than Naruto or Bleach would be Masterpieces. The only reason I didn't go into detail why SAO is so BAD, is because there's a laundry list of shit to write down, but someone so aptly did that on another thread so I will post in here for you if you're interested, ciao. 1) Yeah, I see that. Even though you attempted sarcasm to make it seem like it wasn't actually true. 2) Whether or not you choose to accept the word "tsundere" the end result is something we see all the time. And something we see all the time, obviously isn't unique or special. 3) He never said the word "accepts" but he implied it. Which was clearly the point of his statement there. And in most fight or flight situations, most people choose flight because they have no means of defending themselves. A petite woman being attacked by a large man is obviously going to run away. Because there is nothing she can do. However, you give that same woman in that same scenario a can of pepper spray, and her reaction changes. Ryota is that woman, and bombs are his pepper spray. 4)I always practice what I preach. And while they may not be masterpieces, Naruto and Bleach are great series. (Naruto not as much lately) You disagree? Well based on their ratings, I'd say more people agree with me. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. However it annoys me when people post threads making bold claims like their opinion is the one true reality. As is the case with the kid who made this thread. |
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