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From my profile:

"I love my country with a deep love that I don't think will ever change. I love the wide open wild spaces; the forests, the lakes and rivers, the snow, the wildlife. I love being out in it all and drinking it in. Despite this, I am not particularly opposed to developing these areas AS LONG AS IT IS DONE IN A RESPECTFUL AND ECO-CONSCIOUS MANNER!! Development for the sake of development and in the hopes of wild economic growth that leads to the destruction of our natural heritage is something that truly pisses me off. As such, I am NOT IMPRESSED with my government and it's pro-economy, development crazy approach; destroying environmental protection measures and crippling science and research. "


From my experience as a Canadian, I think that what a lot of people have said previously is somewhat true (about being nice / polite, about being somewhat overlooked by the rest of the world, about milk in bags, about bacon, about Quebec, etc). Of course, these are merely generalities and stereotypes and there are always exceptions.

However, I would like to take this opportunity to raise a bit of a concern with some of these stereotypes and see if anyone else has a different take. Specifically, because of the fact that we are so often overlooked / left to our own devices by the rest of the world and because of the idea that "all Canadians are nice people," there's this view in the rest of the world that "anything Canada does must be ok, since they're such a cute, quaint little country" (little in terms of population of course, not size). I would imagine this view could actually be quite damaging, because the government could then get away with a lot of stuff before the world would actually take notice and say "hey, you're way out of line". Here, I'm thinking specifically about the treatment of refugees ( http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1292365--denying-health-care-for-refugees-gives-canada-a-black-eye ), the methodical crippling of science and research in the country ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7dDruEWJE, http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/07/10/the-scientists-vs-harper/ ) and the reckless pursuit of economic growth without proper consideration of the risks involved (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izbUjScUwyA, http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/mgregus/2012/11/reasons-worry-about-trade-deal-china, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/northern-gateway/story/2012/10/22/bc-pipeline-protest-victoria.html).

I realize this has the potential to spark a highly polarized debate, and I'd love to hear people's opinions about what I've said (just please keep it civil!) but my overall point is that the government is slowly crippling many things that Canadians take pride in and it seems to me that no one is bothering to take notice and do anything about it...
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Wow thanks! it was really interesting to read through that!
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I've lived 5 minutes from a major American/Canadian border and a large Canadian city (Vancouver) for my entire life and I don't like it at all.

They're rude, they drive badly (I've had my car hit three times this year by Canadians), and they act all high and mighty like we owe them a debt of gratitude for coming down here and spending money (I've literally read editorials in my own newspapers from Canadians who say we should "thank them"). When in actuality they're destroying our economy by enticing big box stores to come into town to cater to Canadian business, which creates lots of low paying jobs(which brings in low income families and more crime), drives out small business, and over-all has ended the middle class in my entire county as we know it.

Oh and have I mentioned that they're the rudest people I've ever met? Yeah, just awful.

HOWEVER!

I've heard that a lot of nice Canadians live on the east coast. I even work for a company that came out of Toronto and they're always talking about how much they hate the Vancouver Canadians
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On a funner / more lighthearted note than my previous post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUI8k-Z0PM

(Bonus points if you can name all the anime in all the clips!! ^.^)


And reading through this is fun (especially when you get down to the "fun facts" section):

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/CanucksWithChinooks
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vancouver is the ONLY exception...even to this day we all face palm when we talk about the stanley cup game from a couple years ago
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Actually the only place in Canada ii know that drinks milk from bags is Toronto,Ontario >.>
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Kurenai_Taka wrote:

From my profile:

"I love my country with a deep love that I don't think will ever change. I love the wide open wild spaces; the forests, the lakes and rivers, the snow, the wildlife. I love being out in it all and drinking it in. Despite this, I am not particularly opposed to developing these areas AS LONG AS IT IS DONE IN A RESPECTFUL AND ECO-CONSCIOUS MANNER!! Development for the sake of development and in the hopes of wild economic growth that leads to the destruction of our natural heritage is something that truly pisses me off. As such, I am NOT IMPRESSED with my government and it's pro-economy, development crazy approach; destroying environmental protection measures and crippling science and research. "


From my experience as a Canadian, I think that what a lot of people have said previously is somewhat true (about being nice / polite, about being somewhat overlooked by the rest of the world, about milk in bags, about bacon, about Quebec, etc). Of course, these are merely generalities and stereotypes and there are always exceptions.

However, I would like to take this opportunity to raise a bit of a concern with some of these stereotypes and see if anyone else has a different take. Specifically, because of the fact that we are so often overlooked / left to our own devices by the rest of the world and because of the idea that "all Canadians are nice people," there's this view in the rest of the world that "anything Canada does must be ok, since they're such a cute, quaint little country" (little in terms of population of course, not size). I would imagine this view could actually be quite damaging, because the government could then get away with a lot of stuff before the world would actually take notice and say "hey, you're way out of line". Here, I'm thinking specifically about the treatment of refugees ( http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1292365--denying-health-care-for-refugees-gives-canada-a-black-eye ), the methodical crippling of science and research in the country ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7dDruEWJE, http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/07/10/the-scientists-vs-harper/ ) and the reckless pursuit of economic growth without proper consideration of the risks involved (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izbUjScUwyA, http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/mgregus/2012/11/reasons-worry-about-trade-deal-china, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/northern-gateway/story/2012/10/22/bc-pipeline-protest-victoria.html).

I realize this has the potential to spark a highly polarized debate, and I'd love to hear people's opinions about what I've said (just please keep it civil!) but my overall point is that the government is slowly crippling many things that Canadians take pride in and it seems to me that no one is bothering to take notice and do anything about it...


A country's domestic policies is the business of its people. Since the world shouldn't be concerned with another country's domestic policies, Canada's worldwide reputation of being "nice" should thus be completely irrelevant in that regard.

If Canadians have a problem with the actions of their government, then that is their responsibility to solve.
If another country, e.g. the USA, were to intervene, they would receive no end of flak for it, and rightfully so.
People get the government they deserve. Governments will do what they are allowed by the governed.

So far as Canada's reputation allowing them to have an "evil" foreign policy and getting away with it, I don't see that happening.
The only way to get away with being "evil" outside your borders is being powerful enough that nobody can stop it or else being very sneaky and not being caught at it, in which case reputation shouldn't matter.
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Canadians are rude, and they don't know how to drive. I can't stand them.
They buy up all of our groceries and our gas. I can't stand them.
Before I went to the Navy, I worked in retail, and you could always tell who the canadians were because of their accents, they are pushier and ruder than locals, and they always wore stuff with olympic branding, or Canucks gear.

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Do you live in Bellingham?
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I'd like to visit Canada sometime. It looks like a nice place.
My view of Canadians is that they are a lovely bunch of people. Very kind and loving. I somehow would like to get married to a Canadian because I like them.
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I've noticed that, at least on the internet, Canadian girls are generally better looking.
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I'm not very well versed with Canada. So it's hard to say, the Canadians I've met all seem nice enough, but I'd have to immerse myself in their society to gauge them. If I had to pick what I think of Canada itself. Not a place I'd want to live, too cold compared to England. that's all I can really say.
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A country's domestic policies is the business of its people. Since the world shouldn't be concerned with another country's domestic policies, Canada's worldwide reputation of being "nice" should thus be completely irrelevant in that regard.

If Canadians have a problem with the actions of their government, then that is their responsibility to solve.
If another country, e.g. the USA, were to intervene, they would receive no end of flak for it, and rightfully so.
People get the government they deserve. Governments will do what they are allowed by the governed.

So far as Canada's reputation allowing them to have an "evil" foreign policy and getting away with it, I don't see that happening.
The only way to get away with being "evil" outside your borders is being powerful enough that nobody can stop it or else being very sneaky and not being caught at it, in which case reputation shouldn't matter.


Fair point, I hadn't thought of it in that light and that makes sense... I was thinking more along the lines of raising human rights issues concerning the refugees and international environmental concerns with regards to the oil pipeline and the increased tanker traffic it would bring in the event of a spill (cause in the case of a major oil spill, Canada won't be the only one affected). Maybe I'm taking things too far, but I know that the Experimental Lakes Area is the only one of its kind in the world and is used by international scientists (again, I think shutting it down affects more than just Canadians). That was kind of my train of thought... to what extent do our domestic policies affect (read hinder) the progress of scientific research and the protection of the environment all over the world? I may be reading too much into things, but even though domestic affairs are the concern of a particular country as you say, one can't deny that in today's world of globalization, all countries are interconnected and changes in one have the potential to affect another.

As for "people getting the government they deserve" I take issue with that (due to certain circumstances that I won't elaborate on here. if you want, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo for an idea of why I have issues...)
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n1ghtingale wrote:

Canadians are rude, and they don't know how to drive. I can't stand them.
They buy up all of our groceries and our gas. I can't stand them.
Before I went to the Navy, I worked in retail, and you could always tell who the canadians were because of their accents, they are pushier and ruder than locals, and they always wore stuff with olympic branding, or Canucks gear.

@Balzack
Do you live in Bellingham?


Blaine/Birch Bay. I do go to Bellingham all the time though of course
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