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What is the world view on canadians?
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<< canadian right here and I like it
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Good men mean well, We just don't always end up doing well.
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stuck ups.
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Apparently we're still considered to be polar bear ridin' lumberjacks....
Hehehe... guess how that turned out during my visit to the states. |
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ZzZz......
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Kurenai_Taka wrote: On a funner / more lighthearted note than my previous post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUI8k-Z0PM (Bonus points if you can name all the anime in all the clips!! ^.^) And reading through this is fun (especially when you get down to the "fun facts" section): http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/CanucksWithChinooks The Arrogant Worms Rock! as for the fun facts they missed one. "The Devil's Brigade" was the nickname given to the 1st special forces Brigade by the GERMANS, Their opponents. yeah. when the chips are down you want the Canucks in YOUR corner. |
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Opinion from Australia: Much better than (North) Americans.
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darkangel09rose wrote: papagolfwhiskey wrote: spensaur wrote: I like Canada it has everything awesome, or so it seems. Nice people, hockey, ketchup chips, and rather loose laws on marijuana. I'll let you guess the first place where I will flee too if needed. In terms of Americans not liking Canada or the people from there it's basically out of ignorance. South Park often makes fun of Canadians and even in How I Met Your Mother they make fun of Robin who is Canadian; it basically comes down to Americans being egotistical. Although, just remember a few bad apples don't represent the country as a whole. Also, I like Canadian movies, they're hilarious. hmmm.. yeah.. Marjuana. We considered decriminalizing it in parliament nearly a decade ago.. (sometime around 2004?) anyway. After rumblings from the american ambassador about 'security risk and trade sanctions' it never passed. Maybe now that a few states have legalised Marjuana. The US will let us run our own country? WOW our government likes shiting on canada. No They are just using their strength to act in what they consider their interest. Our decriminalizing pot would undermine 'The War on Drugs' of course they brought pressure to bear. That's what nations do. I'm sure every non american on this forum has a similar story or worse. Especially central and south america which were pretty much owned by Del Monte and United Fruit. Said ownership sometime openly backed by agents of the state. |
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papagolfwhiskey wrote: Kurenai_Taka wrote: On a funner / more lighthearted note than my previous post: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FUI8k-Z0PM (Bonus points if you can name all the anime in all the clips!! ^.^) And reading through this is fun (especially when you get down to the "fun facts" section): http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/UsefulNotes/CanucksWithChinooks The Arrogant Worms Rock! as for the fun facts they missed one. "The Devil's Brigade" was the nickname given to the 1st special forces Brigade by the GERMANS, Their opponents. yeah. when the chips are down you want the Canucks in YOUR corner. haha nice! I didn't know that before. |
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I am here to see with eyes unclouded by hate. - Prince Ashitaka
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yep! That's one trait that I have seen in most of the canadians I was around during my childhood. However, raised by a Quebec woman (my grandmother) she was the most generous, kind and compassionate person I ever met. I thought I was this way because of her but perhaps its the canadian in me. It does suck to be too nice though, I get walked on all the time. On another note, I view the show King of the hill and they always down the canadians stating things like whatbhas Canadadone for our planet? What have they given to history? Not much. When it comes to lending a hand to another country in need, are the Canadians there? No. Okay so they mind their own political business and America bitts in to others affairs too much bit the point is that we are here to help each other out and the canadians do not have a long list to talk. About. Now mind you, I am Canadian by nature but I am 100% American. Thank you |
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somewhere over the rainbow...escaping reality for awhile....
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Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide Kurenai_Taka wrote: Spoiler Alert! Click to show or hide ahatestory wrote: Kurenai_Taka wrote: From my profile: "I love my country with a deep love that I don't think will ever change. I love the wide open wild spaces; the forests, the lakes and rivers, the snow, the wildlife. I love being out in it all and drinking it in. Despite this, I am not particularly opposed to developing these areas AS LONG AS IT IS DONE IN A RESPECTFUL AND ECO-CONSCIOUS MANNER!! Development for the sake of development and in the hopes of wild economic growth that leads to the destruction of our natural heritage is something that truly pisses me off. As such, I am NOT IMPRESSED with my government and it's pro-economy, development crazy approach; destroying environmental protection measures and crippling science and research. "From my experience as a Canadian, I think that what a lot of people have said previously is somewhat true (about being nice / polite, about being somewhat overlooked by the rest of the world, about milk in bags, about bacon, about Quebec, etc). Of course, these are merely generalities and stereotypes and there are always exceptions. However, I would like to take this opportunity to raise a bit of a concern with some of these stereotypes and see if anyone else has a different take. Specifically, because of the fact that we are so often overlooked / left to our own devices by the rest of the world and because of the idea that "all Canadians are nice people," there's this view in the rest of the world that "anything Canada does must be ok, since they're such a cute, quaint little country" (little in terms of population of course, not size). I would imagine this view could actually be quite damaging, because the government could then get away with a lot of stuff before the world would actually take notice and say "hey, you're way out of line". Here, I'm thinking specifically about the treatment of refugees ( http://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorials/article/1292365--denying-health-care-for-refugees-gives-canada-a-black-eye ), the methodical crippling of science and research in the country ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7dDruEWJE, http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/07/10/the-scientists-vs-harper/ ) and the reckless pursuit of economic growth without proper consideration of the risks involved (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=izbUjScUwyA, http://rabble.ca/blogs/bloggers/mgregus/2012/11/reasons-worry-about-trade-deal-china, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/northern-gateway/story/2012/10/22/bc-pipeline-protest-victoria.html). I realize this has the potential to spark a highly polarized debate, and I'd love to hear people's opinions about what I've said (just please keep it civil!) but my overall point is that the government is slowly crippling many things that Canadians take pride in and it seems to me that no one is bothering to take notice and do anything about it... A country's domestic policies is the business of its people. Since the world shouldn't be concerned with another country's domestic policies, Canada's worldwide reputation of being "nice" should thus be completely irrelevant in that regard. If Canadians have a problem with the actions of their government, then that is their responsibility to solve. If another country, e.g. the USA, were to intervene, they would receive no end of flak for it, and rightfully so. People get the government they deserve. Governments will do what they are allowed by the governed. So far as Canada's reputation allowing them to have an "evil" foreign policy and getting away with it, I don't see that happening. The only way to get away with being "evil" outside your borders is being powerful enough that nobody can stop it or else being very sneaky and not being caught at it, in which case reputation shouldn't matter. Fair point, I hadn't thought of it in that light and that makes sense... I was thinking more along the lines of raising human rights issues concerning the refugees and international environmental concerns with regards to the oil pipeline and the increased tanker traffic it would bring in the event of a spill (cause in the case of a major oil spill, Canada won't be the only one affected). Maybe I'm taking things too far, but I know that the Experimental Lakes Area is the only one of its kind in the world and is used by international scientists (again, I think shutting it down affects more than just Canadians). That was kind of my train of thought... to what extent do our domestic policies affect (read hinder) the progress of scientific research and the protection of the environment all over the world? I may be reading too much into things, but even though domestic affairs are the concern of a particular country as you say, one can't deny that in today's world of globalization, all countries are interconnected and changes in one have the potential to affect another. As for "people getting the government they deserve" I take issue with that (due to certain circumstances that I won't elaborate on here. if you want, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo for an idea of why I have issues...) I was under the impression that your concern was regarding the desires of Canadians not being respected by their government. You are of course right in that what happens domestically can have an effect that impacts foreign countries. In a case such as those you described, it is to be expected that other countries would act to protect their concerns. Usually they do, if they can. This of course brings up other issues, when the interests of multiple countries conflict. As for how that should be handled, I'm too tired to decide what I think on that. I think the question is effectively as follows. Should there be compromise? What if the country won't compromise on its domestic policy, or requests too much of a concession from the other countries? Is war justified? If a country is sufficiently powerful, should it even care to compromise? Effectively, the question comes down to a basic human question, as opposed to a question of countries: At what point should one put the interest of another before one's own interest? Regarding people getting the government they deserve, your video focused on why a particular form of electing representatives doesn't result in representatives being elected that represent the desires of the populace as a whole. In other words, people not getting the governors they deserve. This is different from people getting the government they deserve. The point is that if people accept this government with its flawed system of election, then they deserve that government and by extension its faults. If they refuse to accept it and instead take action to change it to something that works for them, then that improved government is what they deserve. |
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its cold, polar bears, maple leaves, maple syrup, nice people, scott pilgrim, invisible.
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Canada ey.
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ani-mae75 wrote: yep! That's one trait that I have seen in most of the canadians I was around during my childhood. However, raised by a Quebec woman (my grandmother) she was the most generous, kind and compassionate person I ever met. I thought I was this way because of her but perhaps its the canadian in me. It does suck to be too nice though, I get walked on all the time. On another note, I view the show King of the hill and they always down the canadians stating things like whatbhas Canadadone for our planet? What have they given to history? Not much. When it comes to lending a hand to another country in need, are the Canadians there? No. Okay so they mind their own political business and America bitts in to others affairs too much bit the point is that we are here to help each other out and the canadians do not have a long list to talk. About. Now mind you, I am Canadian by nature but I am 100% American. Thank you (emphasis mine) We Don't? I think you're proving to be a little lacking in knowledge but if you get your information on Canada from 'King of the Hill' I shouldn't be surprised. As for being stuck up. Yep. Sometimes Canadians get a little TOO smug about how nice and calm and all other things good they are. The smugness is self defeating though. Smart Canadians learn to get over themselves. Back the the list... at one tenth the USA's population I think we do okay. We gave the world Captain Kirk and Scotty. We Gave the UN peacekeeping, Our PM at the time got a Nobel Prize for it. And ever since our soldiers have bled while wearing powder blue accesories A tonne of your NASA scientists were Canadians unemployed after we trashed the Avro Arrow. We gave you one half of the Devil's Brigade: one of the parents of modern Special Forces. We gave the world some hard learned lessons in Anti-submarine Warfare. We gave the Chinese Doctor Bethune We gave Alexander Graham Bell 2 places to live and experiment. We have been a communications technology innovator. We gave you Basket Ball. (look it up. It was invented by a Canadian) We gave you America's Sweatheart ( Mary Pickford.. Again look her up) ... those are just the half dozen I thought of without referring to wiki or any history notes. Would you care to rephrase or retract that statement that I emboldened? Oh and if it weren't for us back in 1812 your president would be living in a pink marble monstrosity called the Presidential Palace. (but we did eat your victory feast and steal Madison's silverware so maybe that's not such a good thing after all.) |
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papagolfwhiskey wrote: FacelessRed wrote: I'm not very well versed with Canada. So it's hard to say, the Canadians I've met all seem nice enough, but I'd have to immerse myself in their society to gauge them. If I had to pick what I think of Canada itself. Not a place I'd want to live, too cold compared to England. that's all I can really say. Yeah man but it's a DRY cold. I'll take a dry -40 below over being drenched in freezing water. (As an ex-seacadet and ex northerner I've experienced both) One thing I LOVE about Toronto: Winter NEVER arrives. but we DO get some freezing wet winds to remind us not to sell off our Touques. A friend of mine was trying to get me to go up to Canada, because he really wants to find job within the art field. But I don't want to risk my career for a possible dead end ;( Trying to convince him to come to England instead, but he went and got married! BAH. |
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too busy
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After living in B.C. for 18 years(my age) and then travelling to many American cities, you really can't stay for too long. B.C. is such a beautiful and clean place, it's really hard living in other places then B.C.
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ani-mae75 wrote: yep! That's one trait that I have seen in most of the canadians I was around during my childhood. However, raised by a Quebec woman (my grandmother) she was the most generous, kind and compassionate person I ever met. I thought I was this way because of her but perhaps its the canadian in me. It does suck to be too nice though, I get walked on all the time. On another note, I view the show King of the hill and they always down the canadians stating things like whatbhas Canadadone for our planet? What have they given to history? Not much. When it comes to lending a hand to another country in need, are the Canadians there? No. Okay so they mind their own political business and America bitts in to others affairs too much bit the point is that we are here to help each other out and the canadians do not have a long list to talk. About. Now mind you, I am Canadian by nature but I am 100% American. Thank you Our embassy sheltered 6 of your citizens during the Iran Hostage crisis and firmly cooperated with the CIA to a degree that probably would have got our diplomats executed had they been caught. We are also there for you more than any other nation on 9/11. Thanks for noticing. |
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